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8 hours ago, wiggoforgold said:

Did the previous owners leave that for you? It's many years since I did any conveyancing, but didn't the vendors understand the concept of "vacant posession"?

The house is owned by a friend. I merely moved in. I promise you that a readily available railway room was NOT my main motive for coming to live here!

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1 hour ago, Martin S-C said:

The house is owned by a friend. I merely moved in. I promise you that a readily available railway room was NOT my main motive for coming to live here!

 

After investing all that time and money upgrading the garage make sure that you don't fall out with them!

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You should have jacked that garage up on wheels so you could relocate it if necessary! Hmmm, I wonder if anyone has ever done that....? :laugh_mini: Anyway, enough silliness! Even if the availabilty of the space was a primary motive for moving there, I think it's a good one!! 

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2 hours ago, south_tyne said:

You should have jacked that garage up on wheels so you could relocate it if necessary! Hmmm, I wonder if anyone has ever done that....?

 

I seem to recall that, some time ago, in one of the more obscure American magazines, someone built a layout in a "trailer" then moved it to another property.

The aforesaid "trailer" was a large caravan (like a static home) which was bought cheaply and was stripped of its interior fittings to accommodate the layout.

 

Just a thought!

 

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3 hours ago, ianathompson said:

 

I seem to recall that, some time ago, in one of the more obscure American magazines, someone built a layout in a "trailer" then moved it to another property.

The aforesaid "trailer" was a large caravan (like a static home) which was bought cheaply and was stripped of its interior fittings to accommodate the layout.

 

Just a thought!

 

Ian T

 

Fascinating! I might have guessed someone has done it in the US! Thinking more about it, a static home is actually quite a good method as a way of getting a cheap 'building' for housing a layout, never mind before the portability aspect is thrown in as an added bonus! 

 

Anyway, I digress. Apologies Martin for diverting from the more important matter of the Nether Madder and Green Soudley Railway :blush:

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No need to apologise, discussion of portable housing options for model railways hardly counts as off-topic. I am pretty sure there was a well-known British layout of the late 60s or early 70s featured in RM that was built in a caravan. I may be imagining it but it could have been that the fiddle yard stuck out at 90deg and the caravan door had to be open while it was operated. memory is hazy on that though.

Off to York now for the weekend, just awaiting the taxi to take me to the station. I am meeting up with an old train-sim pal of mine who has just returned from Oz to live in the UK (silly man). Going to the NRM today and the model railway show tomorrow.

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I seem to remember that rock singer Neil Young, part owner of Lionel Trains, had a layout in a caravan that he took on tour with him. Talk about "Tracks and Drags and Rock and Roll."

 

By Ian Dury and the Bullheads, of course.

 

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23 hours ago, Martin S-C said:

 I am pretty sure there was a well-known British layout of the late 60s or early 70s featured in RM that was built in a caravan. I may be imagining it but it could have been that the fiddle yard stuck out at 90deg and the caravan door had to be open while it was operated. memory is hazy on that though.

 

I think it was John Charman's Charford.

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On 20/04/2019 at 06:53, Martin S-C said:

Off to York now for the weekend, just awaiting the taxi to take me to the station

 

Martin - enjoy your trip to York. I hope you can pick up lots of ideas and inspiratopn from the show and have a good time at the NRM. 

 

On 20/04/2019 at 06:53, Martin S-C said:

....pal of mine who has just returned from Oz to live in the UK (silly man)

 

Is he mad!!?!? I would have happily done an exchange with him! :laugh_mini:

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2 hours ago, RedGemAlchemist said:

Why? I prefer living in a country where everything isn't trying to kill me thank you! :P

 

Ha ha maybe, but as opposed to a country that is seemingly trying to tear itself apart and undo 75 years worth of progress and integration....... :scratchhead:

 

Back to the layouts in a caravan theme, there are two crackers on here, which I hope the builders don't mind me highlighting, and that have really inspired me:

 

 

 

 

 

 Anyway Martin, I hope you can draw some inspiration from your weekend in sunny York and it isn't too painful for your wallet! :good_mini:

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I enjoyed a fantastic but exhausting weekend. Unfortunately, despite the best laid plans of mice and men I failed to link up with James (Edwardian) and Mr Runs as Required which was a pity but apparently James was very busy doing all kinds of pre-grouping socialising. The NRM was very good (although much smaller than I remembered) and the York show was excellent in a lovely airy, roomy venue with lifts to aid those who had knackered themselves going up and down the many staircases... The only downside was the ridiculous prices in the restaurant.

My wallet suffered only modest casualties. The only think I bought was a Cowans Sheldon 50ft turntable kit from London Road Models which is the one I've had my eye on for a few months. I drooled over the computer-controlled servo systems by Megapoints which incorporate a lovely random bounce into semaphores as well as give a "first pull/second pull" motion as all the arms move. I am thinking more and more about a primitive signalling system using disc and crossbar points so I do not know if the Megapoints servos can be altered to work at 90deg to their usual throw. I've contacted them to enquire.

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I chatted with the lovely people at White Rose Model works who do a very nice range of laser cut stock storage cabinets though they are somewhat pricey - before I decide I will check out what IKEA can offer and keep an eye on second hand map chests. https://www.whiterosemodelworks.co.uk/department/laser-cut-drawers-plinths/

 

Judith Edge http://www.ukmodelshops.co.uk/catalogue/judithedge had some lovely brass kits of early diesels and electrics. I might use one of these as the basis of a freelance early internal combustion loco.

 

High Level Kits - http://www.highlevelkits.co.uk/ - had an awesome choice of gearboxes, motors and small chassis on display which I think will be where I will go for a new chassis for my Keyser TVR S Class 0-4-0ST as well as possible others of my early K's and Ratio loco kits which are known to suffer from not-very-good frames.

As for layouts, I spent most time at Black Lion Crossing which is superb and which I hadn't been able to see at Warley last November. Unfortunately the battery of my camera died soon after I'd taken lots of pics of Black Lion so I wasn't able to take pics of the other show highlight, the Nettlebridge Valley Railway but fortunately James has uploaded a number of photos of this inspiring layout. So thank you James - your pics have been copied into my "inspiration" folder for further dribbling over.

I took numerous photos at the NRM but won't upload them here due to site space restrictions. They are all on my FaceBook page:

 

 

 

 

 

 





 

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It's a very inspiring model! I have a second rolling stock collection based around the year I was born so I have an interest in decrepit old wooden opens and there were some really wonderful examples of painting and weathering of such beasties on Black Lion.

 

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8 hours ago, Martin S-C said:

A few pics of Black Lion. At shows I mostly take pics of small details and areas that especially inspire me:

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I second you in your opinion of Black Lion!

It was the layout of the exhibition at Manchester last Christmas.

I particularly like the blue and white Foden tipper. They thought that spare wheel was accessible, you try changing one!!!! Blessed thing is heavy!!!

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Glad you had a good weekend in York Martin and managed to get to the show and enjoy the NRM too. 

 

Thanks for sharing your photographs. I had never seen Black Lion before but it looks great. The weathering on those wagons in particular looks superb. 

 

I hope the weekend spurs you on with your own layout. I cannot wait to see the next updates of progress. You have got a bit of a fan club out there who are really enjoying following you project, so keep up the good work! :good_mini:

 

David 

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Neil's next visit is 30th April - 1st May and we hope to break the back of the last bits of carpentry then.

 

Then he's back on the 11th and the 13th May. Then the 18th and the 20th.

The plan is to finish all carpentry and clean up/sand down/check round fettling any last woodworking bits by the end of the 13th. Then its track work.

 

For the 22nd to 26th May I have a 4-day trip planned to the Forest of Dean to do some walking, take lots of photos and generally soak up the atmosphere of the place.

My modelling is taking a wee unplanned pause due to nice weather and various trips/shows. I have the ochre paint and lining job on the 1363 tank to complete and the four 1850s coaches to assemble. I should also get the green/cream and blue/cream clerestory bashes done too. They are beginning to annoy me now! Other projects on the go are the GWR O1 milk van conversions, the Hornby Kit-Kat van bashes, the engineers department brake van and pair of ballast wagons, two very early LNWR brake van 3D prints which I'm going to fit onto hacked about Bachmann GWR shunters truck chassis,  a Mike's Models 1.5t crane truck kit, 4 old kit-bashed vans bought yonks ago on e-Bay that I thought could be repainted into MVR/CMR livery, a half-built brass LBSC horse box kit which I'll freelance and a shed load of coal wagons to change couplings on, weather/tart up and generally fettle.

I think the loco and the clerestories ought to be priorities. I should also reletter/relivery and weather 2 or 3 more locos so that when the track is laid I have something to test it with.

 

I like making lists of things to do but this one is a bit daunting.

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Inspired by Edwardian's wonderful map of his West Norfolk empire I have been motivated to plagarise his work do likewise and after no less than about 47 minutes careful cogitation have come up with this.

 

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I've been more than a little insolent with placing the Madder Valley Railway next to my own creation but since no-one else has done it I think its okay. The MVR in purple looks suitably regal and as the NM&GSR is an equal opportunities employer its lines are shewn in a delightful lady-like pink. I wanted to try and place the various stations in something like the correct relationship to each other on their respective layouts, set things into the north side of the Forest and try to avoid the worst of the hills. I expect if I surveyed this and applied for a parliamentary act I'd be laughed out of the room but as I don't plan to attempt such an undertaking, that's fine. The two linking curves to the GWR's Gloucester-Hereford line represent the ends of my circuit and thus trains disappearing off stage and reappearing from said non-modelled are now assumed to be going to/from those two places which makes for some more fun in the timetable.

This is a first and very rough draft.

Ripping holes in it and loud laughter (as long as this is followed by helpful corrections) are expected and welcomed.

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