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On 22/11/2019 at 02:25, Annie said:

When I was much younger I thought about emigrating to Australia, but then I realised I didn't speak the Australian language so I didn't go.

 

In the early '70s I lived within chundering distance of Earl's Court (aka Kangaroo Valley) and remember when some bright spark published a Strine-English dictionary for the benefit of bewildered natives. Someone else sold a popular line of T shirts proclaiming "Keep Australia Beautiful. Don't Go Home". Not long after that the arabs seemed to take over and the Oz diaspora was even more dispersed.

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I have a friend who was the Medical Director of two of the big hospitals in Melbourne. Several of the consultants were also Glasgow graduates and of they were all having a coffee together in the morning none of the Aussies could understand a word they were saying! 

 

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16 hours ago, Martin S-C said:

At the risk of beginning to sound like a real old moaner the one other issue I had with Norwich Central was an over abundance of specialist freight stock. I do dislike it when so many weird and wonderful wheeled "things" get used instead of a much more reasonable sea of sheeted opens and a few vans. There's just so many wonderful shapes, sizes and liveries of open merchandise wagon, using a lot of them does not have to mean a goods yard looks boring.

 

I agree with the sentiment but that wasn't quite my impression of Norwich City. Apart from the LNWR glass wagons and the guano tanker, I thought the goods stock was well-balanced. The (non-fictional) PO wagons were nearly all appropriate to the area and period*, much better than very many cases. The specials are permissable if one has a back-story - some Norwich department store is being fitted out with new plate-glass windows.

 

If one thing stuck out like a sore thumb for the 1910-14 period, it was the ex-Cornwall Minerals 2-4-0 - both condition and livery were well out.

 

My understanding of this layout is that it was built primarily to showcase the builders' stock. Such a cart-before-the-horse approach will always result in some anomalies. But it takes a great deal of self-discipline (more than I have) to model a location and a date and stick rigorously to building stock to suit and no other.

 

*Excepting P. Softley No. 23, with oil axleboxes. 

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19 hours ago, Martin S-C said:

In truth I agree with you. It does jar badly on my eye and sensibilities too. I was trying to be polite about it though! I have had a few recent problems with calling a spade a spade (not here but elsewhere on t'internet so I nowadays steer a more moderate course if I can). There is a very well known and much adored interwar layout in this community that is rightly held up as a superb example of modelling but the shop fronts shout out to me "1960s" instead of "1930s" due to the colours and fonts used which is such a great shame since the overall modelling is something I aspire to in every way.

At the risk of beginning to sound like a real old moaner the one other issue I had with Norwich Central was an over abundance of specialist freight stock. I do dislike it when so many weird and wonderful wheeled "things" get used instead of a much more reasonable sea of sheeted opens and a few vans. There's just so many wonderful shapes, sizes and liveries of open merchandise wagon, using a lot of them does not have to mean a goods yard looks boring.

I tend to agree regarding modern typefaces and, yes, we have to be careful because some people can be very sensitive to the slightest criticism over it. There was an incident on an industrial railway modelling group, on Facebook recently, where someone posted a photo of a 1930s industrial tank engine with what were obviously modern British Rail diesel nameplates. It looked so wrong to me but I refrained from mentioning it and when someone did point it out, and criticise the poster's choice of typeface, all hell broke loose.

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Yes, the most incredible flare-ups can result from the most well-meaning of (what you think are) helpful comments. People are oddly sensitive about things, or completely miss what is meant to be supportive advice. One modeller on Facebook I know (knew, he's since blocked me) just could not take criticism of any kind, even directed at the biggest howlers he made of his weathering projects. After a keyboard bashing too many I sometimes wonder if its worth even trying to guide anyone with their modelling.

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9 minutes ago, Martin S-C said:

Yes, the most incredible flare-ups can result from the most well-meaning of (what you think are) helpful comments. People are oddly sensitive about things, or completely miss what is meant to be supportive advice. One modeller on Facebook I know (knew, he's since blocked me) just could not take criticism of any kind, even directed at the biggest howlers he made of his weathering projects. After a keyboard bashing too many I sometimes wonder if its worth even trying to guide anyone with their modelling.

 

I'm frightened of posting anything now :wacko:

 

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RMWeb's pre-grouping section is pretty safe ;)

There are some extremely odd people on Facebook though!

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3 hours ago, Martin S-C said:

One modeller on Facebook I know.

 

2 hours ago, Martin S-C said:

There are some extremely odd people on Facebook though!

 

Did you mean to make both of those comments, he said, cheekily... ;)

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On 01/12/2019 at 13:05, Caley Jim said:

I have a friend who was the Medical Director of two of the big hospitals in Melbourne. Several of the consultants were also Glasgow graduates and of they were all having a coffee together in the morning none of the Aussies could understand a word they were saying! 

I have heard other Scots say that about Glaswegians, though!

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I don’t use Facebook or any of the other social media platforms......I’m too antisocial for any of that nonsense  :P

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I only use FB and then only about 10 or so groups. A couple of them like the 19th century railways group, and the UK wagons group are both extremely useful and packed full of both inspiring images and very helpful discussion. There are some extremely knowledgable people in both groups, including some authors.

Most of the others I frequent I use only for grabbing inspirational models images and to be honest I don't participate at all in some. The two groups I named above make it worth having an FB account for though.

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22 minutes ago, Martin S-C said:

I only use FB and then only about 10 or so groups. A couple of them like the 19th century railways group, and the UK wagons group are both extremely useful and packed full of both inspiring images and very helpful discussion. There are some extremely knowledgable people in both groups, including some authors.

Most of the others I frequent I use only for grabbing inspirational models images and to be honest I don't participate at all in some. The two groups I named above make it worth having an FB account for though.


I deleted my faceache account four years ago. I was fed up of ‘friends’ posting pictures of what they were having for dinner :lol:

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On 02/12/2019 at 18:12, Regularity said:

I have heard other Scots say that about Glaswegians, though!

 

When I was at college (in London) there was one of our cohort who was from Glasgow. For the first year or so we could hardly understand a word he said – but it was worth persevering as he turned out to be a really nice bloke!

 

 

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On 03/12/2019 at 19:14, chuffinghell said:


I deleted my faceache account four years ago. I was fed up of ‘friends’ posting pictures of what they were having for dinner https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/emoticons/default_laugh.png

I am fed up with people posting Brexit related political stuff.

Just unfollow them.

I mostly read discussion groups anyway.

Bottom line - there is a good deal of useful railway-related information on FB.

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On 22/11/2019 at 10:46, Martin S-C said:

This might appeal to a few here.

Mersey Railway 2-6-2 condensing tank No.13 “Brunlees”.

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_2019_11/1666251689_MerseyRailwayNo.13Brunlees.jpg.3ee13c9f50f83a90a907d9ee58bfc04b.jpg

 

On 22/11/2019 at 15:23, James Harrison said:

 

Did somebody take a Met tank and plonk it on a new chassis? 

 

Its a Beyer Peacock design, so similarities are unavoidable!

 

A much prettier engine than the thug-like 0-6-4 Cecil Raikes, also a BP production...

 

1666079731_CecilRaikes.jpg.a1d82c24b290a46a74725bd8f328b27e.jpg

 

(Source https://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/mol/collections/transport/item-269092.aspx )

 

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