locoholic Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 (edited) I've found another picture... Much as I admire Kernow's decision, the PRA must be the ugliest wagon that ever ran on rails! Interesting that they think they can turn a profit on such an obscure wagon. Edited July 20, 2018 by locoholic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kylestrome Posted July 20, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 20, 2018 (edited) Here are a couple of PRAs taken in September 1984 at Fort William Mallaig Junction Yard. These were used for taking china clay to the paper mill at Corpach, on the Mallaig line. David Edited July 20, 2018 by Kylestrome 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted July 20, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 20, 2018 found a couple more https://www.flickr.com/photos/142805908@N08/35270675044/in/photolist-VJKqSY-cs8BMq-Fgb4Ea-cDiyib-8R5Mwy-5wSzyp-5wX3gu-rof4bj-sndXAr-6ZYpZY-bv4YBM-XztViA-5wT9zR-osBdrC-uz6V5i-HZhcGg-4zQBGU-a1893Q-5wSANi-FP6zvw-fJR4aq-cE4kyE-5wX773-HoHp2p-hjnGkW-5wSygv-Yn4tej-fJR52C-5wSKCv-i84vk3-pBpmnL-7qT5po-rdCobG-owKRNt-VrGb2p-7paw9G-KDDPdN-oGDjv4-ddJ6xD-8zGDmP-fJywZV-biZyCa-QmtxQh-pLYnUU-gf9Rag-8v9SfN-cE4jwh-78rBU5-8Cb2ix-22Dt71b https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/36324224644/in/photolist-XkR9tf-FqK9EK-pzowe7-f8HBKu-MjP5RV-28K487y-21BJhuk-e9rVsK-pjVLDG-uyW4F7-diMZib-a1ePxR-21JRwh9-8W389n-Fuvymh-9cBq6J-hjnGkW-a1893Q-23t2EtU-YSspfd-28s4vd8-27QninY-24xPvzV-23t2Eoy-brYrLy-Qg63wT-28MVt6D-XztViA-EXfv2i-293XkqW-27HuHym-WqdTbm-AMK8uN-PCqxtA-oGDjv4-xgwfZg-PiQueT-234vFpE-dgKus7-298dEbB-Ms991Z-x42ne3-uz6V5i-Kg3F1C-VkLTMH-kyankB-Pge84u-bmGaWK-EVXry7-ejqUYF. Did these wagons ever venture onto the southern region? Cheers Trailrage There are at least seven in that second photo (half the entire fleet!); I don’t think I’ve seen any pictures with more than that. And given their dedicated flow and unless anyone can prove otherwise, I’d be very surprised if they ever turned up on the SR. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Alex TM Posted July 20, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 20, 2018 Here are a couple of PRAs taken in September 1984 at Fort William Mallaig Junction Yard. These were used for taking china clay to the paper mill at Corpach, on the Mallaig line. David PRA_RLS6306_FtWill_9-84.jpg Is it just me or does that van look as if it's straight out of the box, rather than weathered like the other wagons? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ba14eagle Posted July 20, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 20, 2018 Absolutely brilliant announcement - something to add to my dwindling wants list I will definitely be ordering some of these. Move on 2 years and announce the PRA wagon and I really will think ive died and gone to heaven! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 I've found another picture... image.jpg Much as I admire Kernow's decision, the PRA must be the ugliest wagon that ever ran on rails! Interesting that they think they can turn a profit on such an obscure wagon. It may seem to be obscure, but it's a type that was to be found in two of the most popular areas for models, the Cornish Clay country and the West Highlands, as well as being common on the Speedlink services on the WCML. Obscurity has never been a bar to a model being produced; think how many Well Wagons and Lowmacs have been done over the years, yet these wagons were mainly built in very small numbers. Even when a particular type of wagon was relatively common, the manufacturers opted for a small, non standard, batch: when Triang did the Vanwide, they didn't model one of the 1994 more-or-less uniform ones, but one of the six built with extra vents and side shutters. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 I've found another picture... image.jpg Much as I admire Kernow's decision, the PRA must be the ugliest wagon that ever ran on rails! Interesting that they think they can turn a profit on such an obscure wagon. They can use the chassis to produce some ASW POA scrap wagons or the PMA open wagons https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/blackadder/h2e6d22e1 https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/rlsaggregatepma 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigP Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 (edited) -- Edited January 31, 2021 by bigP Deleted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 (edited) They can use the chassis to produce some ASW POA scrap wagons or the PMA open wagons https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/blackadder/h2e6d22e1 https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/rlsaggregatepma The PMA, existed in two forms One had an almost identical body to the PRA, but without tarpaulins and end platforms, and was generally used for carrying scrap (though I did see one at Ferryhill, loaded with limestone). The other had a lower, full-length body, and was to be found on mineral traffic. They may have been used to carry calcified seaweed traffic from Cornwall at some point. Edited July 20, 2018 by Fat Controller 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 They can use the chassis to produce some ASW POA scrap wagons or the PMA open wagons https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/blackadder/h2e6d22e1 https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/rlsaggregatepma .... and, more significantly, the Blue Circle PALVANS from which the chassis originated. Regards, John Isherwood. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBRJ Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 I've found another picture... image.jpg Much as I admire Kernow's decision, the PRA must be the ugliest wagon that ever ran on rails! Interesting that they think they can turn a profit on such an obscure wagon. That looks much more like a CDA to me (they are known as wheelie bins in the trade) China Clay at the Cornwall end is rightly popular - It is one of the few prototypical ways to have "modern" small freight trains that come from diverse loations and then get marshalled into big freight trains. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted July 21, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 21, 2018 [humour] I look forward to seeing others match my list of xx number of errors or perceived errors that I will repeatedly mention the number without actually stating what they might be [\humour] ... if nothing else it bumps the thread... that’s all from me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted July 21, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 21, 2018 Dang, If only this was in N! Ah well, Paul The body is available on Shapeways (for about £14, I think) that is designed to fit on a Peco 15ft chassis. Not perfect, but maybe good enough? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbox321 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 I predict a weathered version will follow! Regards, C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bescotbeast Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 As soon as I got the email from Kernows yesterday, i ordered 2 of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westie7 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Another Speedlink Blank filled in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Then there is after they were famous and topless! They were being used between Hatfield Colliery and Goole, colliery spoil/stone for land fill and worked with the Booth Ferry Borough Council side tippers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Mark We also saw one at UES Aldwarke in 1994, I assumed in scrap traffic but perhaps mistakenly. https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/rlsaggregatepma/e1cd5dde0 Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Then there is after they were famous and topless! They were being used between Hatfield Colliery and Goole, colliery spoil/stone for land fill and worked with the Booth Ferry Borough Council side tippers. RLS 6308 PRA Goole LR.jpg I can see the magazine headline right now "Kernow to commission topless model". Should be a eye grabber. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted July 26, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 26, 2018 I can see the magazine headline right now "Kernow to commission topless model". Should be a eye grabber. Yes, but Noch beat them to it ;-) http://www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=N15843&style=&strType=&Mcode=Noch+15843 More seriously, it was questioned up thread whether these ever strayed onto the southern, has anybody got any evidence that they did? Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted July 26, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 26, 2018 (edited) Yes, but Noch beat them to it ;-)http://www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=N15843&style=&strType=&Mcode=Noch+15843 More seriously, it was questioned up thread whether these ever strayed onto the southern, has anybody got any evidence that they did? Roy They may have traversed the section from Exeter to Yeovil on a diverted Speedlink (if, for example, the line was flooded north of Exeter); the Burngullow to Irvine “Silver Bullets” train was certainly recorded taking this route. Otherwise, I really can't see any reason why they would have strayed from their usual route between Cornwall and Scotland. China Clay traffic was not unknown on the Southern in that era (Sittingbourne and Quidhampton, for example) but that was in slurry form and so travelled in tankers.But that doesn’t stop you from buying some Edited July 26, 2018 by Western Aviator Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Temeraire Posted July 26, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 26, 2018 Pack of four duly ordered to be seen passing Exford some time in the future! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinckley_Wolf Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 very interesting and more good wagons from the 80s/90s era Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj_crisp Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Never pre-ordered anything before but couldn't resist a 4 pack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43179 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Well I never thought I’d ever see a RTR PRA wagon - and they’re only little so it would be rude not to get a couple I like where this going - hopefully if Kernow carry on working their way through the China clay wagons we might get a CDA that’s actually the right shape one day! Jon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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