seeseerider Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Hi All, Im looking for any photos of the original batch of 5700 class panniers (with numbers also starting 57xx) with the late BR crest. So far I’m only seeing examples with the early crest. Does anyone please have a photo? Thank you. Thomas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted July 22, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 22, 2018 (edited) 5775 http://www.rail-online.co.uk/p416923824 The same site has at least 3 with original cab style in the 77xx series. Colour Rail has a couple in the 8700-8749 range. Edited July 22, 2018 by TheSignalEngineer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted July 22, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 22, 2018 Hi All, Im looking for any photos of the original batch of 5700 class panniers (with numbers also starting 57xx) with the late BR crest. So far I’m only seeing examples with the early crest. Does anyone please have a photo? Thank you. Thomas. Probably because not many of them survived the 1950s! Have you tried googling the late survivors on this list http://www.brdatabase.info/locoqry.php?action=class&type=S&id=106054&page=fleet Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted July 22, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 22, 2018 Probably because not many of them survived the 1950s! Have you tried googling the late survivors on this list http://www.brdatabase.info/locoqry.php?action=class&type=S&id=106054&page=fleet Phil Of the 5700-99 batch ,apart from a couple in 1956, withdrawals didn't start in earnest until 1958/9 There were still about 20 around in 1962 but gone soon after. Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeseerider Posted July 22, 2018 Author Share Posted July 22, 2018 That’s great - thanks for the info and links - thought there would have to be some that made it through to getting the late crest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted July 22, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 22, 2018 Of the 5700-99 batch ,apart from a couple in 1956, withdrawals didn't start in earnest until 1958/9 There were still about 20 around in 1962 but gone soon after. Keith Only about 3 made it into 1963, including 5775 mentioned above. Given Swindon's painting policy for pannier tanks, one was photographed still carrying shirtbutton livery in 1960, I wouldn't think many got repainted post-1956. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted July 22, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 22, 2018 Only about 3 made it into 1963, including 5775 mentioned above. Given Swindon's painting policy for pannier tanks, one was photographed still carrying shirtbutton livery in 1960, I wouldn't think many got repainted post-1956. Several locos were showing earlier liveries due to poor weathering (and infrequent painting?) of BR paint jobs. No 8762 had been painted BR lined black but it had worn away by 1962 to reveal "GWR" underneath, likewise several others and no. 8700 had worn away to reveal the monogram. Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted July 22, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 22, 2018 8718 was the last small cab survivor at Stourbridge until 1966 and in most photos the loco is too filthy to see what adorns the tank! However not in this one... https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=pannier+tanks+for+scrap&rlz=1C1GGGE_en-gbGB569GB631&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjhtqr427PcAhVL3qQKHfQZBsgQ_AUICygC&biw=1517&bih=735#imgrc=BEJ7SD3t9-y0CM: Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted July 22, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 22, 2018 (edited) 5758 lasted until May '62 Keith Edited July 22, 2018 by melmerby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rail-Online Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Don't forget also that only the first 50 (to 5749) and the 77xx series had brass cabside plates - all the others were of cast iron. Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandra Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 8718 was the last survivor of the low cab type being withdrawn from Shrewsbury in July 1966. I went to Shrewsbury just before it was withdrawn to seek it out and found it at the back of the shed surrounded by rubble. Unfortunately I do not remember if it had an early or late crest. However the late crest was introduced about 1957 so if it had been repainted at all in the previous nine years it would have received the late crest. Sandra Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rail-Online Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 8718 was the last survivor of the low cab type being withdrawn from Shrewsbury in July 1966. I went to Shrewsbury just before it was withdrawn to seek it out and found it at the back of the shed surrounded by rubble. Unfortunately I do not remember if it had an early or late crest. However the late crest was introduced about 1957 so if it had been repainted at all in the previous nine years it would have received the late crest. Sandra It was too dirty to tell! see: http://www.rail-online.co.uk/p416923824/h210260f3#h210260f3 http://www.rail-online.co.uk/p416923824/h51ca41da#h51ca41da Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted July 23, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23, 2018 And was still getting around - was at Worcester in June 1966... http://www.miac.org.uk/worcs1965.html hl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 23, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23, 2018 Several locos were showing earlier liveries due to poor weathering (and infrequent painting?) of BR paint jobs. No 8762 had been painted BR lined black but it had worn away by 1962 to reveal "GWR" underneath, likewise several others and no. 8700 had worn away to reveal the monogram. Keith As much as anything due to the 'economical' manner in which Swindon painted engines. Even the 4-6-0s only seemed to receive two coats (undercoat and final coat) of green plus - presumably - a coat of varnish and the smaller engines painted at Swindon no doubt received somewhat less careful attention although Caerphilly works was known for its attention to the care put into paintwork. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted July 23, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23, 2018 Several locos were showing earlier liveries due to poor weathering (and infrequent painting?) of BR paint jobs. No 8762 had been painted BR lined black but it had worn away by 1962 to reveal "GWR" underneath, likewise several others and no. 8700 had worn away to reveal the monogram. Keith If 9710 carried anything else up to 1960 someone had done a good job of removing it. See picture 77. http://www.bundesbahnzeit.de/page.php?id=HS2016-01-17_England Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy M Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Didcot’s 5783 appears in Vol.3 of the Pannier Papers, as well as the previously mentioned 5775. There was surely others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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