ddoherty958 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Does anyone know where I can get a turntable like the ones used on The L&LSR Line in Donegal m, about the length of a tank engine? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colmflanagan Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 How about an "N" gauge turntable with a wide "deck" -(will needa bit of bashing) Worth a look anyway - it's just about 6"/150mm long which would accommodate a small 00 tank loco, though not the Swilly's famous 4-8-0 tender engines! Colm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddoherty958 Posted July 28, 2018 Author Share Posted July 28, 2018 How about an "N" gauge turntable with a wide "deck" -(will needa bit of bashing) Worth a look anyway - it's just about 6"/150mm long which would accommodate a small 00 tank loco, though not the Swilly's famous 4-8-0 tender engines! Colm Good thinking. I never thought about changing an n gauge turntable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCB Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 I asked a similar question in 2014 on this forum for an 00 turntable smaller than the 75 ft monsters usually available and one suggestion was an Atlas at 9" long and another was this link, see screenshot. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddoherty958 Posted July 29, 2018 Author Share Posted July 29, 2018 I asked a similar question in 2014 on this forum for an 00 turntable smaller than the 75 ft monsters usually available and one suggestion was an Atlas at 9" long and another was this link, see screenshot. I looked it up and it could be really good! Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Harlequin Posted July 29, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 29, 2018 (edited) 42ft, 50ft and 60ft British pre-grouping turntables here: http://www.metalsmith.co.uk/4mm_scale_00_EM_P4.htm#Turntables Edited July 29, 2018 by Harlequin 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddoherty958 Posted July 29, 2018 Author Share Posted July 29, 2018 42ft, 50ft and 60ft British pre-grouping turntables here: http://www.metalsmith.co.uk/4mm_scale_00_EM_P4.htm#Turntables Sorry, the turntables I’m looking for are about the length of a tank engine. Sorry! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Harlequin Posted July 29, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 29, 2018 (edited) How big is a tank engine? It's a pretty imprecise specification. A 42ft turntable (168mm diameter at 4mm scale) is smaller than the 9inch Atlas mentioned above, would be considered small in the real world and would accommodate most small to medium sized tank engines but not many larger locos - even the smallest tender locos would not fit. Edited July 29, 2018 by Harlequin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rue_d_etropal Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 What length?, would probably be easy to design one for 3D printing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddoherty958 Posted July 29, 2018 Author Share Posted July 29, 2018 You can see by the picture attached that the L&LSR turntables were just about the length of an engine and no more. I can’t find an official length for the table but the men beside it may help. Any ideas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoingUnderground Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 The loco in the picture in your book is according to the caption L&LSR No. 10. It is a Kerr Stewart 4-6-2T, built in 1904, and scrapped in 1954, according to Wikipedia. Find the length of the loco and you've got the length of the turntable. Whilst I couldn't find that, I did find a picture of another L&LSR 4-6-2T loco, and here's a link to No. 14, one of the 4-6-2T locos built by Hawthorne Leslie. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Locomotive_for_the_Londonderry_and_Lough_Swilly_Railway_(25609568311).jpg The accompanying description says that the total wheelbase is 23ft 6in, and gives the diameter of the driving wheels as 3ft 9in. So either of those two dimensions should enable you to estimate the total length of that loco. Don't forget that the angle at which the photo of No. 10 in your book was taken will foreshorten the apparent amount by which the turntable projects beyond the end of the loco. Of course, the Kerr Stewart loco won't necessarily be the same length as the Hawthorne Leslie loco, but it gives you a starting point. Hope this is of some use to you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddoherty958 Posted July 29, 2018 Author Share Posted July 29, 2018 The loco in the picture in your book is according to the caption L&LSR No. 10. It is a Kerr Stewart 4-6-2T, built in 1904, and scrapped in 1954, according to Wikipedia. Find the length of the loco and you've got the length of the turntable. Whilst I couldn't find that, I did find a picture of another L&LSR 4-6-2T loco, and here's a link to No. 14, one of the 4-6-2T locos built by Hawthorne Leslie. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Locomotive_for_the_Londonderry_and_Lough_Swilly_Railway_(25609568311).jpg The accompanying description says that the total wheelbase is 23ft 6in, and gives the diameter of the driving wheels as 3ft 9in. So either of those two dimensions should enable you to estimate the total length of that loco. Don't forget that the angle at which the photo of No. 10 in your book was taken will foreshorten the apparent amount by which the turntable projects beyond the end of the loco. Of course, the Kerr Stewart loco won't necessarily be the same length as the Hawthorne Leslie loco, but it gives you a starting point. Hope this is of some use to you. Yeah, thanks. And you’re not into the L&LSR?!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted July 29, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 29, 2018 (edited) A 42ft turntable (168mm diameter at 4mm scale) is smaller than the 9inch Atlas mentioned above, would be considered small in the real world and would accommodate most small to medium sized tank engines but not many larger locos - even the smallest tender locos would not fit. Untrue. The Midland Railway (of England) had a great many 42ft turntables, which could accommodate 0-6-0 and 2-4-0 tender engines with the Midland's standard 8ft + 8ft 6in locomotive wheelbase (actually quite big for the 1860s - 1880s) - total wheelbase around 38ft, length over buffers, 50ft. Edited July 29, 2018 by Compound2632 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoingUnderground Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Yeah, thanks. And you’re not into the L&LSR?!? No, but I do have a general interest in the railways of Ireland, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddoherty958 Posted July 29, 2018 Author Share Posted July 29, 2018 No, but I do have a general interest in the railways of Ireland, Nice. Any ones in particular? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John M Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 I used a Peco HOm turntable at Keadue. Deck 150mm or 37'6". The turntable is hand operated with Meccano gears 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoingUnderground Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Nice. Any ones in particular?The GNR, B&CDR, and NCC, as I've travelled on all of them when I was much, much younger, and thought it very sad how they were then, and still are, very dim shadows of their former selves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddoherty958 Posted July 29, 2018 Author Share Posted July 29, 2018 The GNR, B&CDR, and NCC, as I've travelled on all of them when I was much, much younger, and thought it very sad how they were then, and still are, very dim shadows of their former selves. i've been wanting Derry City Council (DCC) to reopen Foyle Valley Railway station for ages, it would really with my layout research. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Harlequin Posted July 30, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 30, 2018 Untrue. The Midland Railway (of England) had a great many 42ft turntables, which could accommodate 0-6-0 and 2-4-0 tender engines with the Midland's standard 8ft + 8ft 6in locomotive wheelbase (actually quite big for the 1860s - 1880s) - total wheelbase around 38ft, length over buffers, 50ft. Thanks. I'm not familiar with Midland practice and I must admit I was not thinking about Victorian locos when I wrote the above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Holliday Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Untrue. The Midland Railway (of England) had a great many 42ft turntables, which could accommodate 0-6-0 and 2-4-0 tender engines with the Midland's standard 8ft + 8ft 6in locomotive wheelbase (actually quite big for the 1860s - 1880s) - total wheelbase around 38ft, length over buffers, 50ft. The LBSCR was similar, 28% of their turntables were 42 footers, and the only locos that were too big were the Atlantics, K class moguls and the B4 and B2X classes. So all the 0-6-0s and Gladstones, as well as all the tanks, could be accommodated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmcg1959 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 (edited) I bought the South Eastern Finecast turntable kit for my GNRi layout as its only 10" and hand operated. Its a well-type turntable similar to Omagh and many other GNRi stations. http://www.sefinecast.co.uk/Turntables/Turntables.htm Edited August 5, 2018 by tmcg1959 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killybegs Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 i've been wanting Derry City Council (DCC) to reopen Foyle Valley Railway station for ages, it would really with my layout research. Don't hold your breath. What a waste of a good museum, there used to be an awful lot of stuff in there. I was lucky enough to be passing when there was a film crew there (I think making a commercial) so I snuck in and had a quick look round when no one was looking. It used to be down to politics but I don't know what the situation is now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddoherty958 Posted August 5, 2018 Author Share Posted August 5, 2018 Thats it. I've had enough. I'm off to send a very angry email to Derry City Council. Wish me luck! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddoherty958 Posted August 5, 2018 Author Share Posted August 5, 2018 Right. This is what I sent them: Hello I am a railway enthusiast and am wondering when the re-opening of the Foyle Valley Railway Musem is, as surley you woudn't let one of the best railway museums in Northern Ireland sit and rot away? I loved that museum as a child! Annother possible thought is the strech of track beside the station. I know for a fact there is at least 1 steam loco and 1 railcar inside there that many people all over Ireland would love to ride. A tourist attraction in the summer perhaps? Look at Fintown. It's in the middle of nowhere and it's doing great! I'd even volenteer in the museum on weekends if thats what it takes! We need to re-open that railway museum! PLEASE! I BEG OF YOU! Yours, (My Name), Railway moddeler and enthusiast Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killybegs Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Right. This is what I sent them: Hello I am a railway enthusiast and am wondering when the re-opening of the Foyle Valley Railway Musem is, as surley you woudn't let one of the best railway museums in Northern Ireland sit and rot away? I loved that museum as a child! Annother possible thought is the strech of track beside the station. I know for a fact there is at least 1 steam loco and 1 railcar inside there that many people all over Ireland would love to ride. A tourist attraction in the summer perhaps? Look at Fintown. It's in the middle of nowhere and it's doing great! I'd even volenteer in the museum on weekends if thats what it takes! We need to re-open that railway museum! PLEASE! I BEG OF YOU! Yours, (My Name), Railway moddeler and enthusiast Well done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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