37114 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Duncan. said: I guess there weren't any spare Romanian cabs as production had ceased in Romania?? Does any one know? Yes Romania production had ceased. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonas Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Ah, it makes sense now - as the bodies are identical (apart from cantrail grills) both of these models will represent Romanian batch with replacement BREL cabs at one end...right?! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan. Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 hour ago, jonas said: Ah, it makes sense now - as the bodies are identical (apart from cantrail grills) both of these models will represent Romanian batch with replacement BREL cabs at one end...right?! Almost.... I have changed the cantrail grills back to the original pattern on both locos and the locos will be numbered 56014 in BR Blue and 56029 in 3T Grey (coal). 56014 has a replacement steel cab at no2 end while 56029 has a replacement steel cab at no1 end! No 1 Ends 56029 to the left and 56014 to the right... And No 2 Ends, 56014 to the left and 56029 to the right. Still much painting to complete. Cheers Duncan 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac1960 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Duncan That is some work you have done there, re numbering and putting stripes on steam locos is about my limit ! However you can see your attention to detail on Shirebrook as we discussed when I first saw the layout at Leeds last year (I am the guy who lives in Munich part time if that helps you remember, and we were discussing DB operations as well). Cheers Mac Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan. Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 hour ago, mac1960 said: Duncan That is some work you have done there, re numbering and putting stripes on steam locos is about my limit ! However you can see your attention to detail on Shirebrook as we discussed when I first saw the layout at Leeds last year (I am the guy who lives in Munich part time if that helps you remember, and we were discussing DB operations as well). Cheers Mac Yes Mac, I remember. All shows off this year, however I expect we will be at Scarborough (Pickering) and Wigan in 2021. Cheers Duncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted June 5, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Duncan. said: Almost.... I have changed the cantrail grills back to the original pattern on both locos and the locos will be numbered 56014 in BR Blue and 56029 in 3T Grey (coal). 56014 has a replacement steel cab at no2 end while 56029 has a replacement steel cab at no1 end! No 1 Ends 56029 to the left and 56014 to the right... And No 2 Ends, 56014 to the left and 56029 to the right. Still much painting to complete. Cheers Duncan The problem is with my eyesight and N gauge, they both look exactly the same!! Mike. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Neat work on the cab swap Duncan. You wouldn't know the join was there! The best comment regarding the difference between a early and later cab I ever heard was that on the later cab you can put a mug down on the "shelf" above the yellow panel, on an early cab it's too rounded and would fall off! You're make me want to dig out my 56s now! Jo 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl. H. Posted June 6, 2020 Author Share Posted June 6, 2020 On 02/06/2020 at 21:06, Duncan. said: The first 30 locos were constructed in Romania, the cabs they had I think were made from aluminium they were rounded at edges and 'sat' on the buffer beam. They were very drafty and drivers could often be seen climbing into sleeping bags to keep legs warm! Locos built from about 56052 (??) had cabs fabricated from steel and were much more angular at edges, came over the buffer beam. The cab windows were fitted in a different way. Rather than break copyright can I advise you do a google image search for 56001 and 56100 you will easily see the differences. Cheers Steel cabs were fitted on 56056-56135. Carl 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan. Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 On 05/06/2020 at 16:13, Enterprisingwestern said: The problem is with my eyesight and N gauge, they both look exactly the same!! Mike. Class 56 Conversion Update Evening Everyone, I hope , Mike, that you can see the differences more clearly in the photos below. 56014 and 029 are looking better now. Here you can see the no2 ends of the locos with the steel replacement cab on 56014. While at the no1 ends of the locos it is 56029 with the steel replacement cab, see below. 56029 now as 2 of the 3 greys sprayed on, there just remains a spray of executive dark grey to the roof and black around the cab windows and doors to complete the basic spraying. The transfers on 56014 are from the Fox range, my preferred transfers. I had to apply a single number at a time , 5 the 6 the 0 etc, tedious. I've picked out the axle boxes in yellow (with a white undercoat) this was applied with a cocktail stick- I have selected a prototype photo to weather match the model to, the axle boxes will be almost brown but if the weathering was applied over black boxes the slight change in tone would be absent. Finally here's a close up of the no2 ends. You will notice that 56029 at this end has round buffers while those at no1 end with the steel cab has oval buffers-see the second photo above. Cheers Duncan 9 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted-ish Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Looks bloody good to me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Duncan. Posted June 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) Class 56 conversion update. In this update I will show how I mask up the model for the next colour to be sprayed. The first photo shows my 'tool kit' for masking. Red lithographic cellulose tape, scalpel ,steel rule and a cocktail stick. The first pieces of masking tape have been applied. The roof will be sprayed executive dark grey. The photo below shows the completed masking, the edge of the red tape provides the border of the paint to be sprayed, you can see that I have used decorators' masking tape to protect the majority of the body. The next photo shows the body once sprayed, this picture was taken immediately after completing the spraying, and below the masking is removed to reveal the loco. I remove the masking asap after spraying, as any over spray or 'leaks' can be carefully removed with a fine paint brush dipped in thinners. It's a kinda magic! The locos still require much work but here's a preview of where I'm up to, more photos to follow. Cheers Duncan Edited June 8, 2020 by Duncan. photo missing 14 2 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan. Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Class 56 Conversion Update Photos Photos as promised in previous post. These show the no2 ends of the locos and a side on view 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Duncan. Posted June 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 12, 2020 58037 +5= Ironbridge Power Station I purchased 58037 from ebay in EWS livery. However to run on Shirebrook I need to repaint into BR Railfreight livery and also give it a new identity as 58042. First the loco is broken down into its major components Body Bogies Solebar Chassis block The solebar and body need repainting. The solebar is easy and was sprayed with primer and then Railfreight red to the sides and ends including buffers. The body is more difficult and needs totally stripping so all components need to be removed first. After removing the cab door windows, these simply push inwards the next task is to remove the lighting units, these are gently levered backwards to remove the light guides from the body, see above. In the photo below you can see the exposed light guides, the nit can now be gently levered upwards away from the cab detail and removed. Next the cab detail units can be moved, sometimes hey are lightly glued in and may need some 'encouragement' but be careful! The cab glazing is tricky to remove, you may need to slightly spread the cab sides apart and push the side glazing inwards a little to get the unit to release. You will end up with the parts as shown below. Strip the paint with a stripper of you choice. I have detailed the painting process earlier in this thread so won't repeat it here but here are a couple of views of the rebuilding process. Just bufferbeam detailing, weathering and application of 'Ironbridge Power Station' and 'Railfreight' nameplates to complete! I'll be completing the 56 conversions of 56014 and 029 this weekend. Cheers, Happy Lockdown Duncan 16 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerhillboy Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Great step by step Duncan, sure that'll be useful to someone. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkie Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Great work Duncan. Really like the strip down of the 58 body write up. And the two tone grey 56 conversion is awesome. Keep the updates coming fella Phil 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan. Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Hi, Have you, dear reader, got a spare pair of Toton Depot Plates I can buy? I have tried the usual places to no avail. I am after a pair to finish my class 56, 56029 (see above). Cheers Duncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steven B Posted June 16, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 16, 2020 Etched or transfers? Steven B. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan. Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Steven B said: Etched or transfers? Steven B. Etched Steven. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan. Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Class 56 conversions. Hi, 56029 is waiting for a depot plaque, 56014 is complete I am keeping this loco, it has been weathered for use on Shirebrook. 58042 is also complete. 56014 No1 end original cab and No 2 end , replacement steel cab and 58040, Ironbidge Power Station 56029 still requires a very slight weather and a few details adding, this loco is for sale if you are interested. Full Spec, Unique model with replacement 'steel cab' at N01 end. Replacement 3d printed cantrail grilles at No2 end to original design. Replacement super fine copper berylium etched 'grilles to bodysides of the correct square pattern as fitted to Romanian locos. Full repaint with etched BR arrows and Toton depot plaques, make me an offer. The photos below show loco in an unfinished state, still working on it! Cheers Duncan 12 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkie Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Outstanding workmanship fella 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan. Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Class 31 Side Project Evening All. I am waiting for the postman before I can finish the two class 56 locos. Along side the conversions I have been working on a Farish class 31. The body is quite old being a Poole example fitted with a spectrum chassis as was usual shortly after Farish was bought out by Bachmann. I have plated over the boiler exhaust on the roof and added wire handrails to the doors. The bodyside engine room windows are just recessed plastic with a gloss black finish to represent the 'dark' interior these I cut out and replaced with 'glazing'. I added headlights and repainted the loco. I added etched BR arrows and depot plaques and gave the loco a light weather mostly to the bogies and roof areas. Cheers Duncan 10 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowley 47521 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 I’ve just spent a very enjoyable half an hour looking at this thread Duncan, and having only taken the plunge into N gauge in the last couple of years it’s really inspiring seeing the era I model in captured so well. I’m going to leave the page open and read the whole thread from the start in the next couple of days. Great work and thanks for sharing it and some of your techniques too. Nick 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan. Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 25 minutes ago, Cowley 47521 said: I’ve just spent a very enjoyable half an hour looking at this thread Duncan, and having only taken the plunge into N gauge in the last couple of years it’s really inspiring seeing the era I model in captured so well. I’m going to leave the page open and read the whole thread from the start in the next couple of days. Great work and thanks for sharing it and some of your techniques too. Nick Hi Nick, If there are any matters arising please post a question in this thread and I'll do my best to answer. Cheers Duncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
branchie Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 The 31 looks fantastic Duncan. Memories of the ones that worked up the Lledr valley to Trawsfynydd 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowley 47521 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Duncan. said: Hi Nick, If there are any matters arising please post a question in this thread and I'll do my best to answer. Cheers Duncan Thanks for that Duncan. I’m up to page 6 so far and have just spent a good few minutes drooling at the AC electrics and the interior of the shed... What’s really struck me so far is the way you’ve said that people should reimagine (or words to that effect) what they can do with N. Coming to it as a bit of a newby and having a few years break from modelling (previously in 00) I’m finding that it’s not as hard to work with as I thought it was going to be and maybe that’s helped by not having too many preconceptions. Having space around the layout so the trains feel like they’re in the landscape is something I’ve always found really satisfying and I think that’s one of the aspects about this that jumped out at me straight away. Oh but the weathering too... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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