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2 hours ago, Duncan. said:

I guess there weren't any spare Romanian cabs as production had ceased in Romania?? Does any one know?

Yes Romania production had ceased. 

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Ah, it makes sense now - as the bodies are identical (apart from cantrail grills) both of these models will represent Romanian batch with replacement BREL cabs at one end...right?!

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1 hour ago, jonas said:

Ah, it makes sense now - as the bodies are identical (apart from cantrail grills) both of these models will represent Romanian batch with replacement BREL cabs at one end...right?!

Almost.... I have changed the cantrail grills back to the original pattern on both locos  and the locos will be numbered 56014 in BR Blue and 56029 in 3T Grey (coal). 56014 has a replacement steel cab at no2 end while 56029 has a replacement steel cab at no1 end!

No 1 Ends 56029 to the left and 56014 to the right...IMG_2089.JPG.7f81133b4afbdf27c6ef375d69d0e698.JPG

 

And No 2 Ends, 56014 to the left and 56029 to the right.

 

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Still much painting to complete.

Cheers

Duncan

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Duncan 

That is some work you have done there, re numbering and putting stripes on steam locos is about my limit ! However you can see your attention to detail on Shirebrook as we discussed when I first saw the layout at Leeds last year (I am the guy who lives in Munich part time if that helps you remember, and we were discussing DB operations as well).

Cheers

Mac  

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1 hour ago, mac1960 said:

Duncan 

That is some work you have done there, re numbering and putting stripes on steam locos is about my limit ! However you can see your attention to detail on Shirebrook as we discussed when I first saw the layout at Leeds last year (I am the guy who lives in Munich part time if that helps you remember, and we were discussing DB operations as well).

Cheers

Mac  

Yes Mac, I remember. All shows off this year, however I expect we will be at Scarborough (Pickering) and Wigan in 2021.

Cheers

Duncan

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2 hours ago, Duncan. said:

Almost.... I have changed the cantrail grills back to the original pattern on both locos  and the locos will be numbered 56014 in BR Blue and 56029 in 3T Grey (coal). 56014 has a replacement steel cab at no2 end while 56029 has a replacement steel cab at no1 end!

No 1 Ends 56029 to the left and 56014 to the right...IMG_2089.JPG.7f81133b4afbdf27c6ef375d69d0e698.JPG

 

And No 2 Ends, 56014 to the left and 56029 to the right.

 

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Still much painting to complete.

Cheers

Duncan

 

The problem is with my eyesight and N gauge, they both look exactly the same!!

 

Mike.

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Neat work on the cab swap Duncan. You wouldn't know the join was there!

The best comment regarding the difference between a early and later cab I ever heard was that on the later cab you can put a mug down on the "shelf" above the yellow panel, on an early cab it's too rounded and would fall off!

You're make me want to dig out my 56s now!

 

Jo

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On 02/06/2020 at 21:06, Duncan. said:

The first 30 locos were constructed in Romania, the cabs they had  I think  were made from aluminium they were rounded at edges and 'sat' on the buffer beam. They were very drafty and drivers could often be seen climbing into sleeping bags to keep legs warm!

Locos built from about 56052 (??) had cabs fabricated from steel and were much more angular at edges, came over the buffer beam. The cab windows were fitted in a different way.

Rather than break copyright can I advise you do a google image search for 56001 and 56100 you will easily see the differences.

Cheers

  

Steel cabs were fitted on 56056-56135. 

 

Carl

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On 05/06/2020 at 16:13, Enterprisingwestern said:

The problem is with my eyesight and N gauge, they both look exactly the same!!

 

Mike.

Class 56 Conversion Update

Evening Everyone,

I hope , Mike, that you can see the differences more clearly in the photos below. 56014 and 029 are looking better now. Here you can see the no2 ends of the locos with the steel replacement cab on 56014.

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While at the no1 ends of the locos it is 56029 with the steel replacement cab, see below.

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56029 now as 2 of the 3 greys sprayed on, there just remains a spray of executive dark grey to the roof and black around the cab windows and doors to complete the basic spraying.

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The transfers on 56014 are from the Fox range, my preferred transfers. I had to apply a single number at a time , 5 the 6 the 0 etc, tedious.

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I've picked out the axle boxes in yellow (with a white undercoat) this was applied with a cocktail stick- I have selected a prototype photo to weather match the model to, the axle boxes will be almost brown but if the weathering was applied over black boxes the slight change in tone would be absent.

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Finally here's a close up of the no2 ends. You will notice that 56029 at this end has round buffers while those at no1 end with the steel cab has oval buffers-see the second photo above.

Cheers

Duncan

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Class 56 Conversion Update Photos

Photos as promised in previous post. These show the no2 ends of the locos and a side on view

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Great work Duncan. 

Really like the strip down of the 58 body write up. 

And the two tone grey 56 conversion is awesome. Keep the updates coming fella 

 

Phil 

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Hi,

Have you, dear reader, got a spare pair of Toton Depot Plates I can buy? I have tried the usual places to no avail. I am after a pair to finish my class 56, 56029 (see above).

Cheers

Duncan

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1 hour ago, Steven B said:

Etched or transfers?

 

Steven B.

Etched Steven. Thanks

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Class 56 conversions.

Hi,

56029 is waiting for a depot plaque, 56014 is  complete I am keeping this loco, it has been weathered for use on Shirebrook. 58042 is also complete.

56014 No1 end original cabIMG_2122.JPG.bc98bd1877a8d47e5be6f255db6874f3.JPG

 

and No 2 end , replacement steel cab

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and 58040, Ironbidge Power Station

 

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56029 still requires a very slight weather and a few details adding, this loco is for sale if you are interested.

Full Spec, Unique model with replacement 'steel cab' at N01 end. Replacement 3d printed cantrail grilles at No2 end to original design. Replacement super fine copper berylium  etched 'grilles to bodysides of the correct square pattern as fitted to Romanian locos. Full repaint with etched BR arrows and Toton depot plaques, make me an offer. The photos below show loco in an unfinished state, still working on it!

Cheers

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Outstanding workmanship fella 

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Class 31 Side Project

Evening All.  I am waiting for the postman before I can finish the two class 56 locos. Along side the conversions I have been working on a Farish class 31. The body is quite old being a Poole example fitted with a spectrum chassis as was usual shortly after Farish was bought out by Bachmann. 

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 I have plated over the boiler exhaust on the roof  and added wire handrails to the doors. The bodyside engine room windows are just recessed plastic with a gloss black finish to represent the 'dark' interior these I cut out and replaced with 'glazing'. I added  headlights and repainted the loco.

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I added etched BR arrows and depot plaques and gave the loco a light weather mostly to the bogies and roof areas.

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Cheers

Duncan

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I’ve just spent a very enjoyable half an hour looking at this thread Duncan, and having only taken the plunge into N gauge in the last couple of years it’s really inspiring seeing the era I model in captured so well.

 I’m going to leave the page open and read the whole thread from the start in the next couple of days. 

Great work and thanks for sharing it and some of your techniques too.

 

Nick

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25 minutes ago, Cowley 47521 said:

I’ve just spent a very enjoyable half an hour looking at this thread Duncan, and having only taken the plunge into N gauge in the last couple of years it’s really inspiring seeing the era I model in captured so well.

 I’m going to leave the page open and read the whole thread from the start in the next couple of days. 

Great work and thanks for sharing it and some of your techniques too.

 

Nick

 Hi Nick,

If there are any matters arising please post a question in this thread and I'll do my best to answer.

Cheers

Duncan

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The 31 looks fantastic Duncan. Memories of the ones that worked up the Lledr valley to Trawsfynydd

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1 hour ago, Duncan. said:

 Hi Nick,

If there are any matters arising please post a question in this thread and I'll do my best to answer.

Cheers

Duncan


Thanks for that Duncan. I’m up to page 6 so far and have just spent a good few minutes drooling at the AC electrics and the interior of the shed...

 

What’s really struck me so far is the way you’ve said that people should reimagine (or words to that effect) what they can do with N.

Coming to it as a bit of a newby and having a few years break from modelling (previously in 00) I’m finding that it’s not as hard to work with as I thought it was going to be and maybe that’s helped by not having too many preconceptions.

 

Having space around the layout so the trains feel like they’re in the landscape is something I’ve always found really satisfying and I think that’s one of the aspects about this that jumped out at me straight away.

Oh but the weathering too...

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