Horsetan Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 (edited) I've just had a message from Allen Doherty at Worsley Works. The body kit for the long awaited "WT" class 2-6-4T is virtually ready, and can apparently be adapted to fit the Hornby Fowler 2-6-4T chassis. The chassis etch designed for 21mm gauge will follow afterwards. I've waited many years for this!!! Contact Allen to order yours! http://www.worsleyworks.co.uk/WW/Email.htm Update: Body £50, Chassis £25. Edited August 11, 2018 by Horsetan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirley Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 It's hard to believe that this might actually happen after a very long time, thanks for the heads up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted August 11, 2018 Author Share Posted August 11, 2018 If using the Hornby Fowler chassis, swap the driving wheels for a set from a Black Five. Gives you correct diameter and number of spokes instantly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glover Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Do you know, Horsetan, if Allan plans to include any castings ( chimney, dome etc) in the kit? Cheers, Glover Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted August 11, 2018 Author Share Posted August 11, 2018 Do you know, Horsetan, if Allan plans to include any castings ( chimney, dome etc) in the kit? If it's anything like his "W" class mogul kit, there may be a few castings in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Jackson Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Thank you for letting us know, email sent for a body kit, will post pics if it arrives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted August 12, 2018 Author Share Posted August 12, 2018 Thank you for letting us know, email sent for a body kit, will post pics if it arrives. You're more likely to see yours first, as I have to wait for Allen to finish the chassis design for 21mm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirley Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 If it's anything like his "W" class mogul kit, there may be a few castings in it. According to Allen there will be no castings with this kit. It would be very helpful to less experience modellers to have a list of what casting will be required and who to source them through, hoping someone will pick up on this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 According to Allen there will be no castings with this kit. ... Ah. That's slightly disappointing, but no matter. Some near-enough Fowler castings may be had from AGW - download their catalogue. Here's what the "W" mogul seems to have Thinking about it, at a show, probably the practical way of identifying suitable parts is to have the photos of no.4 handy and then comparing these to parts on offer at AGW's trade stand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colmflanagan Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Some details of AGW would be helpful for those of us who aren't familiar with him/them.....a Google search turned up nothing for me. 247 Developments also do some useful Fowler/Ivatt castings, and Comet models (now wizard I think) did suitable strap type steps in lost wax, which are much more sturdy than the plastic ones I tried at first when building my jeeps. I'll be most interested to see how other folk use these etches. My focus at present is getting a layout up and running. Colm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 Some details of AGW would be helpful for those of us who aren't familiar with him/them.....a Google search turned up nothing for me..... Click here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirley Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 You threw me Horsetan with your AGW but I now realise you were referring to Allan Gibson Model Railway Products. This is a list of parts I think I would need; Chimney, dome, safety valves, whistle, smokebox door, buffers, boiler bands, washout plugs, steam heating pipes, vacuum pipes, smokebox door handle, backhead, steps, coupling hook and top feed. I’m sure there are many others and I would welcome any advice on which chimney, dome etc. would be needed to complete this model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colmflanagan Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Yes, Alan Gibson does a good range of detailing parts; Chimney was I think an Ivatt/Fairburn pattern very similar to the smaller 2-6-0 by that engineer. I have left the original Fowler ones on my Jeeps but that isn't strictly correct. Dome is I think as per Fowler Top feed - I have used that for the Black Five, I think it was a standard design across a large number of LMS locos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 The Ivatt 2MT chimney and Black 5 top feed are available from Wizard / Comet Models. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted August 24, 2018 Author Share Posted August 24, 2018 I have managed to track down some Derby drawing numbers for the "WT" at the National Railway Museum's "Search Engine", and it might be possible to order copies (though bear in mind that each copy costs a lot of money!): 16824 - Arrangement of G8AS boiler (modified) 16825 - Arrangement of firebox (modified) 16864 - Arrangement of frame 16865 - Arrangement of cab, tanks and bunker 16868 - Bunker and rear tanks 16869 - Ashpan 16870 - Pipe and rod arrangement 16871 - Pipe and rod - end views 16872 - Arrangement of brake shafts and carriers 16877 - Regulator 16881 - Fabricated bogie 16882 - Bogie general arrangement 16909 - Brake pull rods 16914 - Leading pony truck arrangement 16938 - Smokebox 16942 - Smokebox saddle 16962 - Boiler clothing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirley Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 The Brass kit is now available to buy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted August 29, 2018 Author Share Posted August 29, 2018 The Brass kit is now available to buy. Chassis to follow. Really looking forward to this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Jackson Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Here's pictures of the etches, one thing that surprised me were the rivets. I thought these would have been left to the modeller to punch out with dimples on the back for their location. Nelson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 Looks promising. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John M Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) Here's pictures of the etches, one thing that surprised me were the rivets. I thought these would have been left to the modeller to punch out with dimples on the back for their location. image.jpeg image.jpeg Nelson Looks reasonably good the use of overlays for cab tanks and bunker and boiler and firebox wrappers included in the kit. On the negative side it looks like the builder will have to separate the inner cab/tank bunker sides as they do not appear to have been etched through on the fret. Edited September 10, 2018 by John M Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 Here's pictures of the etches, one thing that surprised me were the rivets.... Having another look at those - to some eyes they may come across as a bit heavy. Maybe press-out ones might have achieved a neater result, but rivet pressing can drive some people mad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirley Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Got my etches at last. Below is some pictures of the two etches you get and a guess at what each part is. There are some missing spaces, can you fill in the blanks and offer any amendments please. Worsley Works WT Class 4mm Etches Etch 1 1 Footplate 2 Cab rear underlay 3 ‘Pipes’ joining front & rear tanks (behind steps) 4 “for over raised back of chassis” 5 Cab rear overlay 6 Tank & Sides underlay 7 “inner top bunker sides” 8 “rear lamp brackets” 9 Rear Tank Top , sloping 10 Cab front inner 11 Front frame 12 Front lower footplate 13 14 Step 15 Steps 16 Cab roof hatch Etch 2 17 Tank overlay 18 Tank inner sides 19 Rear bunker sides 20 Cab front –to aid boiler mounting 21 Cab roof 22 Cab front 23 Sliding window & roof vents 24 25 Smokebox overlay 26 Smokebox underlay 27 Boiler 28 Firebox 29 “inner coal hopper bottom, fold to match the lines on the inner sides” 30 31 Smokebox saddle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brack Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 24 look to be maybe formers for the firebox, part 20 is the firebox front/boiler barrel rear? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Jackson Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Thank you for creating the list Kirely, very helpful. Today I came across this thread, albeit in 2mm it did help me grasp how things should hopefully go together, http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/128847-fowler-2-6-4t-in-2mm-finescale/?p=2955155 Also, apparently the Worley works kit was spotted at the scalefour exhibition, so wonder if anyone took any photos? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirley Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Thank you for the link Nelson. Hoped you would have yours finished by now and I could follow what you did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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