Estuary coastal layout based on Southern Railway Barnstaple

[AdeMoore]

Barnstaple junction and town stations were LSWR.

Cheers Zom didn’t see your post while composing the above.

[Harlequin]

The GWR station was Barnstaple (Victoria Road) and it's slightly unusual history and relation to the LSWR is briefly mentioned here: http://www.greatwestern.org.uk/stat_1.htm

 

If you click the almost invisible links you can see a station track plan and signal box diagram.

Edited September 17, 2018 by Harlequin

[AdeMoore]

The GWR station was Barnstaple (Victoria Road) and it's slightly unusual history and relation to the LSWR is briefly mentioned here: http://www.greatwestern.org.uk/stat_1.htm

 

If you click the almost invisible links you can see a station track plan and signal box diagram.

Cheers Phil excellent info. There. The track plan I almost gave up on then I spotted it! White text bottom right of text on page if your looking and can’t see it.

Cheers

Ade

[AdeMoore]

 

That’s the track plan from Phil’s link rather nice. Funny the Goods Shed is not shown?

 

1892 1914 Scottish Library Map shows it plainly.

 

 

Still existent today.

 

 

The Barnstaple Junction LSWR Station, just plain Barnstaple Station today.

 

 

Cheers

[Harlequin]

Cheers Phil excellent info. There. The track plan I almost gave up on then I spotted it! White text bottom right of text on page if your looking and can’t see it.

Cheers

Ade

 

 

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That’s the track plan from Phil’s link rather nice. Funny the Goods Shed is not shown?

 

Cheers

You've found the hidden link to the signal box diagram, and that's what you posted above.

 

There's another hidden link at bottom left, which is the track plan:

 

 

Why on earth they make these links so difficult to see is anyone's guess!

Edited September 17, 2018 by Harlequin

[AdeMoore]

You've found the hidden link to the signal box diagram, and that's what you posted above.

 

There's another hidden link at bottom left, which is the track plan:

 

 

Why on earth they make these links so difficult to see is anyone's guess!

Ah duff knowledge on my part! didn’t spot that link though thanks for pointing it out.

So that answers my question Re, goods shed. Not relevant on signal diagram only the track plan.

White text terrible choice of the website builder.

Cheers Phil much obliged.

[KeithMacdonald]

Here's a few views of old Barnstaple that might help with the scenery?

 

https://www.barnstaplehistory.com/old-town-station/

https://www.barnstaplehistory.com/old-town-station-crossing/

https://www.barnstaplehistory.com/old-railway-bridge/

https://www.barnstaplehistory.com/old-barnstaple-town-station/

https://www.barnstaplehistory.com/the-old-railway-bridge/

 

Would it be cheating to model the river at high tide?

A lot less viaduct to make if that's the case ;-)

Edited September 18, 2018 by KeithMacdonald

[AdeMoore]

Here's a few views of old Barnstaple that might help with the scenery?

 

https://www.barnstaplehistory.com/old-town-station/https://www.barnstaplehistory.com/old-town-station-crossing/https://www.barnstaplehistory.com/old-railway-bridge/https://www.barnstaplehistory.com/old-barnstaple-town-station/https://www.barnstaplehistory.com/the-old-railway-bridge/

 

Would it be cheating to model the river at high tide?

A lot less viaduct to make if that's the case ;-)

Keith those are amazing not seen that done so well as that before the slide to compare thing.

Thanks a bunch for those links.

As for viaducts and tides, time will tell but I see what your saying.

Cheers

Ade

[KeithMacdonald]

For a Barnstaple Town Quay layout, can anyone suggest a source of suitably SR-style station buildings, platform and canopy?

[KeithMacdonald]

The best pictures I can kind of Barnstaple Quay are on Disused Stations.

http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/b/barnstaple_town/index.shtml

 

But the best one showing the style in detail looks like one of Ilfracombe in 1970.

 

 

Ref : http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/i/ilfracombe/index11.shtml

 

This looks like the right kind of station canopy :

http://lcut.co.uk/index.php?product=SR%2000-16c&title=SR%2000-16c

 

But what about the rest? Any ideas?

[Fat Controller]

Here's a few views of old Barnstaple that might help with the scenery?

 

https://www.barnstaplehistory.com/old-town-station/

 

https://www.barnstaplehistory.com/old-town-station-crossing/

 

https://www.barnstaplehistory.com/old-railway-bridge/

 

https://www.barnstaplehistory.com/old-barnstaple-town-station/

 

https://www.barnstaplehistory.com/the-old-railway-bridge/

 

Would it be cheating to model the river at high tide?

A lot less viaduct to make if that's the case ;-)

Given the likely tidal range at Barnstaple (perhaps 30'?), you wouldn't have to model much of the viaduct supports at all. 

[AdeMoore]

The best pictures I can kind of Barnstaple Quay are on Disused Stations.

http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/b/barnstaple_town/index.shtml

 

But the best one showing the style in detail looks like one of Ilfracombe in 1970.

 

 

Ref : http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/i/ilfracombe/index11.shtml

 

This looks like the right kind of station canopy :

http://lcut.co.uk/index.php?product=SR%2000-16c&title=SR%2000-16c

 

But what about the rest? Any ideas?

Cheers Kieth, one ref. I know for SR kits is here http://www.amodelrailway.co.uk/shop/ very cheap but only card, not used them myself but could make a base for a scratch build in something more substantial. But saying that plenty of card kits are 30 or more years old on layouts still giving good service.

Cheers

[AdeMoore]

Given the likely tidal range at Barnstaple (perhaps 30'?), you wouldn't have to model much of the viaduct supports at all.

 

Brian my vision is not actually based on the viaduct to Barnstaple Town, I know Keith didn’t actually say as much in post 32 but to put the topic back on course I’m planning a much bigger estuary crossing as in posts 6 & 15.

Cheers

Ade

[AdeMoore]

The best pictures I can kind of Barnstaple Quay are on Disused Stations.

http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/b/barnstaple_town/index.shtml

 

But the best one showing the style in detail looks like one of Ilfracombe in 1970.

 

 

Ref : http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/i/ilfracombe/index11.shtmlki

 

This looks like the right kind of station canopy :

http://lcut.co.uk/index.php?product=SR%2000-16c&title=SR%2000-16c

 

But what about the rest? Any ideas?

Kieth looking at my photo,

 

Yours is different on the canopy supports this is Barnstaple Town and the link I put to the card kits is very much closer to this. Also there is a hidden station building on clicking on the ticket office that does show up in the menus.

 

Cheers

Ade

[KeithMacdonald]

Would the next station up-the-line be useful for one end of the Tavy Viaduct-style extra long bridge?

 

Fremington Quay, with a nice bit of dock for importing coal and exporting ball clay.

 

Here's a nice site on its history: http://www.fremingtonquay.co.uk/history

 

Perhaps one could get away with using china clay wagons?

 

 

[AdeMoore]

Three pictures of Barnstaple Town taken shortly after closure:

 

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The Ilfracombe end of the platform canopy, which originally extended furter along the platform to provide shelter for passengers changing between the Main Line and the Lynton and Barnstaple.  Note there were two supporting columns were the canopy extended beyond the station building.

 

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Whilst along the front of the building the canopy was attached directly to the wall and there was only one verticle supporting column.

 

Neg 007 - C.jpg

A rather more detailed picture of the ironwork, purlins and glazing bars.

Nigel fab photos thanks for adding them to the topic great reference material that.

Cheers

Ade

[twm483]

Plenty points of interest in this location, that sweeping bridge over the river would be a worthy challenge if you were to replicate it.

 

I'll add this to my watch list.

 

Stu

[Joseph_Pestell]

Plenty points of interest in this location, that sweeping bridge over the river would be a worthy challenge if you were to replicate it.

 

I'll add this to my watch list.

 

Stu

 

I doubt we will see much for a while. This would be a huge project requiring some serious space.

 

A model of Barnstaple Town station should be reasonable in 00 with additional space for the L&B. Not much by way of visual breaks though.

 

I was interested to see those photos of the platform canopy after closure. I nearly bought the building in the mid 1980s (then owned by the local council). Some bright individual had filled in the trackbed which is where water from the canopies had drained to (via downpipes integrated in the cast columns). The resultant overflow every time it rained had caused quite a lot of structural damage to the building. I think it became a restaurant a couple of years later but they must have done a hell of a lot of building work to get it back to a suitable state.

[Philou]

Hello Ade,

 

Thought I'd let you there was an article in the October 2013 Railway Modeller entitled 'Barnstaple's railways' by Emma Anderson shewing quite a few black and white photos of the two stations and line drawings of the station layouts (Barnstaple junction, Town and Victoria Road). It shows the canopy of the Town station extending quite a way forward, plus, as a bonus, Lynton & Barnstaple Rly stock in the station (goods no passenger).

 

Additionally, in the December '13 issue, in the 'Readers' section, there is a colour picture of Bulleid 'Spitfire' sweeping over the curved viaduct.

 

Cheers,

 

Philip

[AdeMoore]

Hello Ade,

 

Thought I'd let you there was an article in the October 2013 Railway Modeller entitled 'Barnstaple's railways' by Emma Anderson shewing quite a few black and white photos of the two stations and line drawings of the station layouts (Barnstaple junction, Town and Victoria Road). It shows the canopy of the Town station extending quite a way forward, plus, as a bonus, Lynton & Barnstaple Rly stock in the station (goods no passenger).

 

Additionally, in the December '13 issue, in the 'Readers' section, there is a colour picture of Bulleid 'Spitfire' sweeping over the curved viaduct.

 

Cheers,

 

Philip

Thanks Philip great info.

[AdeMoore]

I doubt we will see much for a while. This would be a huge project requiring some serious space.

 

A model of Barnstaple Town station should be reasonable in 00 with additional space for the L&B. Not much by way of visual breaks though.

 

I was interested to see those photos of the platform canopy after closure. I nearly bought the building in the mid 1980s (then owned by the local council). Some bright individual had filled in the trackbed which is where water from the canopies had drained to (via downpipes integrated in the cast columns). The resultant overflow every time it rained had caused quite a lot of structural damage to the building. I think it became a restaurant a couple of years later but they must have done a hell of a lot of building work to get it back to a suitable state.

Cheers Joseph interesting points,

Things have moved on since my last post, just last weekend I returned from a research and measuring up trip.

I have scaled things back hugely as Phil suggested.

This will now become my next layout Masbury and Bredon have been sidelined.

So what am I planning, well just Barnstaple Town now.

The river Taw is 1756mm wide in 4mm scale 134m actual bank to bank. So my hope of even modelling the river to scale width is a none starter!

So I’m hoping to do the viaduct compress the run from there to the station. Then run on to the river Yeo bridge signal box.

The station building is on my Christmas list along with the platform mounted signal box.

Some license will need to be taken to add interest, as the track layout was not a lot by my preferred period late 50s till closure. So I will turn the clock back a bit maybe to 1934 year before The Lynton & Barnstaple shut! To add a few sidings etc.

First thing I have done is the back drop for the viaduct looking east, needs a bit more work but you get the picture.

Cheers

Ade

 

[Maurice Phillips]

Hi Guy's, I new on here so I'm not sure if this is the right place for my post or if it's been asked already. Does any one have photo's of Barnstaple Town Station and the Taw Bridge when the L & B was still running. I'm planning a modular layout of the Ilfracombe Branch along with Small section of the L & B.

Thanks Guy's

[AdeMoore]

Welcome along Maurice,

Theres a rather glorious film from 1899 it claims to be and many stills.

This will be a start https://photos.app.goo.gl/s9qkHsAxGQyeWwk7A

No 3G much at the moment I’ll post an update later 

Cheers

Ade

 

[AdeMoore]

 

3 hours ago, Maurice Phillips said:

Hi Guy's, I new on here so I'm not sure if this is the right place for my post or if it's been asked already. Does any one have photo's of Barnstaple Town Station and the Taw Bridge when the L & B was still running. I'm planning a modular layout of the Ilfracombe Branch along with Small section of the L & B.

Thanks Guy's

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[KeithMacdonald]

3 hours ago, Maurice Phillips said:

Does any one have photo's of Barnstaple Town Station and the Taw Bridge when the L & B was still running

 

Have you tried these?

 

Disused Stations

http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/b/batnstaple_town/index11.shtml

 

Barnstaple History

http://www.barnstaplehistory.com/old-barnstaple-town-station/

 

etc

https://tonystrainsatbarbymodelrail.blogspot.com/2016/07/launching-project-woody-bay.html