Andrew P Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 I think it’s been done, anyway. Can’t remember who, what, where, when, but it’s been on the exhibition circuit. Best Simon Oh well, mine will be different anyway, cheers Simon. BTW, will I see you at Telford? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 I fully agree. There are a number of potential advantages, the key one is that the track does what you want it to. Secondly, it flows. Thirdly, it’s way cheaper (less than half, I’d estimate) and fourth, though perhaps most important, you can adopt 31.5mm gauge through the crossings. The downside is that it takes time (maybe 5 or 6 hours per point, roughly) and you need a basic grip on Templot (which is free), although you can cut-and-shut photocopies of C&L templates for nearly the same effect. The skills required are patience, soldering and filing. The tools required are some track gauges (Debs of this parish), decent track cutters (Xuron), a biggish soldering iron, (say 30W chisel tip or more), a small wood saw, a vice & a decent chunky pair of pliers. You’ll also need a computer & printer! The consumables are sleepers & timbers, rail, chairs, slide chairs, fishplates, tiebars, MEK (get the real stuff on the www), solder, flux, 1mm strip brass & epoxy. I also use some thin card & exterior PVA. Hopefully without reigniting endless debate about 31.5 gauge, it allows the use of just about all modern 0 gauge wheels without wheel drop, and apart from a couple of extra gauges, without extra cost. I’ve told my pointwork story (or at least, the edited highlights) in the PD thread., near the beginning. One other thought, I actually cut my teeth in 0 gauge pointwork on copperclad - might be worth doing one or two of them to start with, as they are easy to build and rebuild, and they can always be used in the fiddle yard. Hope it helps Simon. Thanks Simon, see my reply to Jints, Post 49, I've done it in OO and have no desire to do it again, yes I agree it is cheaper, but not when you already have 6 good / used Points in stock at £40 a go. Thanks for all the advice, but it will be Peco I'm afraid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Yep, all being well, there both days. Look for the pink polo shirt! Best Simon 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 It's not a bad idea you know Andy, building your own track I mean. If I can build point work in EM and S4 I'm sure you can do it in 7mm. You only really need a template, or a means of printing them off, and a full set of gauges. You've already got everything else. Or you could use C&L components and glue it all together well most of it you still have to have a soldering iron for some of it. I will grant you that switch rails are a bit of a pain but you can build a jig for them or buy them in. In way of compensation crossings are a breeze though. You just need a crossing flange way gauge and a straight edge. There are all manner of guides to help you as well, building track is building track it don't matter what gauge you work in the principle is the same you just have to beef things up a bit. You can use a proper file in 7mm! You might need a bigger iron but they don't cost much these days you can get soldering stations with sensible wattage very reasonably that will cope with all your modeling needs from N to gauge 1. Regards Lez.Z. Please see above Post to Simon, Lez. Cheers anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Andy, Just discovered your new thread. Looks promising. All the very best of luck with it. Regards, Brian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 Andy, Just discovered your new thread. Looks promising. All the very best of luck with it. Regards, Brian. Thanks Brian, I hope it comes out as a good combination of West Shed and Fiddlers Yard but in the Senior Scale. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ressaldar Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Hi Andy, got fed up listening to the Test Match, so here is V4 no space for the last right hand point though! kind regards Mike 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 Hi Andy, got fed up listening to the Test Match, so here is V4 7Mill v4.jpg no space for the last right hand point though! kind regards Mike Spot on Mike, I do like that, room to store Locos, Movement to Coal Drops and shunting into the Warehouse. Thanks. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 Hi Andy, got fed up listening to the Test Match, so here is V4 7Mill v4.jpg no space for the last right hand point though! kind regards Mike It will fit, if I decide to go for it Mike. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ressaldar Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Hi Andy, great news, look forward to seeing the detail going on the scenery by next week end! regards Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyram Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Looks promising Andy. Now, if this is going on one side of TOPs - what is going on the other side?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Three months discussing the plan. A week building the layout. RMweb at its best...….. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted August 18, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 18, 2018 Three months discussing the plan. A week building the layout. RMweb at its best...….. But he don't listen to us. :nono: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Got that centre road trap point fitted yet Clive? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted August 19, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 19, 2018 (edited) Got that centre road trap point fitted yet Clive? Dear Mr Kazmierczak Our Clive has been busy and has eventually got round to doing his homework and fitted the trap point. Please see Sheffield Exchange page 80 Yours Clive's Mum Edited August 19, 2018 by Clive Mortimore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Bogie Posted August 19, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 19, 2018 Wow - I go away for the weekend and come back to find a new Andy Peters' topic that is already on its third page! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted August 19, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 19, 2018 Totally agree Jints, but I already have the 6 Points, and having built 00 Track I know I can do it, but just cant be ar**ed to mess about, so I'll stick with what I have, but thanks for the kind offer anyway mate. Those who have been following Andy's work may remember he did a pretty good job of the turnouts on Bitton. But this is a hobby do what you enjoy. Don Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 (edited) Hi Andy, great news, look forward to seeing the detail going on the scenery by next week end! regards Mike STOP...…… ………..Change of Plan. See below. Next Page now Mike. Edited August 19, 2018 by Andrew P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 Looks promising Andy. Now, if this is going on one side of TOPs - what is going on the other side?? Pen Y Bont, will go opposite the Window, so I can run STEAM especially for you Andy. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 Three months discussing the plan. A week building the layout. RMweb at its best...….. A week? that long Peter! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 But he don't listen to us. :nono: If I did it would cost me time and MONEY, I'm BLOCKING that George T's thread for that very reason, hahha Wow - I go away for the weekend and come back to find a new Andy Peters' topic that is already on its third page! I was going to wait for you to get home before I started mate. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 Those who have been following Andy's work may remember he did a pretty good job of the turnouts on Bitton. But this is a hobby do what you enjoy. Don Thanks Don, Yes I could reverse 21 X 16T Minerals over them with no issues, and no wheel drop in the V's, I enjoyed it, and could do about one point in an evening, so not to bad. SMS is more about Play Value and somewhere to run noisy Locos. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 Got that centre road trap point fitted yet Clive? Dear Mr Kazmierczak Our Clive has been busy and has eventually got round to doing his homework and fitted the trap point. Please see Sheffield Exchange page 80 So Guys, remind me, what doos one ov dem do? Up earliy this morning, Plans still going around in me edd. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddys-blues Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Good morning Andy, wow I hadn’t realised how long it’s been since I have been on RMweb properly catching up on threads, then I come across this new one of yours. Looks interesting & plenty of good ideas discussed from others ....... but where will the bogcarts come into it ? Best regards Craig 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 Morning again all, Yes up early and out into TOPS. New and FINAL PLAN, as the main reason for building SMS is to have a stabling point for my Diesel Fleet, with grassed over sidings. So, 9ft Scenic, and 3ft F/Yard A bit like this from Kings Moreton. 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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