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On 22/01/2019 at 21:23, Phil Bullock said:

The UKF PWAs appeared 68 - many thanks Paul

 

https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/ukfvan

 

There was an Ince and Elton to Plymouth - 6V35 and back from Bridgewater - 6M54 in the 71/72 wtt.

 

The earliest evidence I can find of the UKF PWAs on these workings is 1974....https://www.rcts.org.uk/features/querycorner/page.htm?id=query/Q16.04 - photos seem rare!

 

So can anyone advise please when the PWAs appeared - and what was used on this traffic before their appearance ? Was it vent vans?
 

Many thanks in advance

 

Phil

 

 

Looking at the PWAs on Paul's site, if you go to page 4 there are some with a blue star-like symbols at the right side. This is described as the UKF symbol, but is identical to the Royal Bank of Scotland symbol. I was wondering what the connection is?

 

For comparison, the bank symbol can be seen here.

 

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13 minutes ago, F2Andy said:

 

 

Looking at the PWAs on Paul's site, if you go to page 4 there are some with a blue star-like symbols at the right side. This is described as the UKF symbol, but is identical to the Royal Bank of Scotland symbol. I was wondering what the connection is?

 

For comparison, the bank symbol can be seen here.

 

Was it due to the leasing arrangements?

Some of the other wagons, with the LS number prefix, have the Lloyds bank horse and a thistle in a similar position and I believe LS stands for Lloyds and Scottish.

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1 minute ago, giz said:

Was it due to the leasing arrangements?

Some of the other wagons, with the LS number prefix, have the Lloyds bank horse and a thistle in a similar position and I believe LS stands for Lloyds and Scottish.

I know they were leased by Lloyds and Scottish, but I am not aware of any connection from them to Royal bank of Scotland.

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2 minutes ago, F2Andy said:

I know they were leased by Lloyds and Scottish, but I am not aware of any connection from them to Royal bank of Scotland.

It's definitely the RBS symbol though, isn't it. Some of the same batch seem to have the Procor symbol there instead.

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Out of interest, does anyone have any photos of the unloading depots/sheds from the 80s? I’m sure I’ve seen some in the past but can’t really find much online and am modelling a small/medium unloading facility.

 

Many Thanks

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1 hour ago, SHerr said:

Out of interest, does anyone have any photos of the unloading depots/sheds from the 80s? I’m sure I’ve seen some in the past but can’t really find much online and am modelling a small/medium unloading facility.

 

Many Thanks

Googling 'Andover' , 'Carmarthen Jct' or 'Bridgewater' should produce something. My recollection is of single-span buildings clad in 'asbestos' corrugated sheet (normally the ones with wider corrugations). IIRC, in some cases the sheeting wasn't full-height, but started a few feet off the ground.

I just found a link to an end-on view of Andover, which has been comprehensively rebuilt:-

https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/939880

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3 hours ago, SHerr said:

Out of interest, does anyone have any photos of the unloading depots/sheds from the 80s? I’m sure I’ve seen some in the past but can’t really find much online and am modelling a small/medium unloading facility.

 

Many Thanks

When working for BR I went down to the UKF terminal at Bridgwater a few times in the early 1980s, and took a few photos, they are on my Flickr site which is linked below.

The agents at Bridgwater who handled the unloading and storage were M Thomas who also looked after the depot at Plymouth Friary. They also acted as agents for BR to load and unload other Speedlink traffic, some of my photos show their forklift truck at work unloading VGAs of adipic acid from ICI Wilton, and cider was another regular traffic handled at Bridgwater, while I think bricks were loaded in OCAs from Plymouth Friary.

 

cheers

 

 

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Thanks all for the various replies and some goods links to pages I don’t think I’ve seen before from Rivercider. I think it’s been a case of a few subtle extra words into Google over what I’ve searched before.

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