Pteremy Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Volume 3 still due at the end of this month. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben04uk Posted October 11, 2020 Author Share Posted October 11, 2020 Yes, looking forward to it. Vol. 3 is wooden coal wagons to the 1923 Specification. I expect Vol. 4 will be the rest of the minerals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel W Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) It looks like the book has been pushed back to february next year: http://www.crecy.co.uk/the-acquired-wagons-of-british-railways-volume-3 Edited October 17, 2020 by Daniel W 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben04uk Posted October 17, 2020 Author Share Posted October 17, 2020 14 hours ago, Daniel W said: It looks like the book has been pushed back to february next year: http://www.crecy.co.uk/the-acquired-wagons-of-british-railways-volume-3 That's disappointing, that means the volume covering 12T ventilated vans will be even further pushed back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Wellyboots Posted October 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Ben04uk said: That's disappointing, that means the volume covering 12T ventilated vans will be even further pushed back. I'd agree that it is a disappointment, but considering the current situation understandable. Although I can't see that the delay of this volume will necessarily cause the publication of subsequent volumes to be pushed back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Hamlin Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Does anyone know if volume 3 got released today as planned? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pontesburian Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Yes, according to James Hudson's website (trading as Bill Hudson Transport Books). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Not Jeremy Posted February 26, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 26, 2021 Yes, the Titfield Thunderbolt received supplies on Wednesday, it is very good. Here's my take on it: https://www.titfield.co.uk/Books/Wagons-det.htm#5481 Simon 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
26power Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Not Jeremy said: Yes, the Titfield Thunderbolt received supplies on Wednesday, it is very good. Here's my take on it: https://www.titfield.co.uk/Books/Wagons-det.htm#5481 Simon Thanks for the information and summary. You mention in your description Twilight of the Goods by Don Rolland. Are there any plans for further volumes of that book? Edited February 27, 2021 by 26power 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 27, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2021 6 hours ago, 26power said: Thanks for the information and summary. You mention in your description Twilight of the Goods by Don Rolland. Are there any plans for further volumes of that book? Agreed, you took the words right out of my mouth! Don must have enough material for numerous follow ups, and as an added bonus, even though they are in b/w, the print quality is excellent, unlike some books I could mention. Mike. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Not Jeremy Posted February 27, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2021 (edited) On 27/02/2021 at 02:03, 26power said: Thanks for the information and summary. You mention in your description Twilight of the Goods by Don Rolland. Are there any plans for further volumes of that book? On 27/02/2021 at 08:42, Enterprisingwestern said: Agreed, you took the words right out of my mouth! Don must have enough material for numerous follow ups, and as an added bonus, even though they are in b/w, the print quality is excellent, unlike some books I could mention. Mike. Thank you very much for your comments. No plans as such but I would like to do more and have said so to Don. Twilight has gone well and is still selling pretty strongly, so I will follow our conversation up in the next few weeks. I am however already working on another new book for Wild Swan that does feature rolling stock, with others to follow hopefully. Apart from anything else it is a subject that interests me a lot! Simon Edited February 2, 2023 by Not Jeremy 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 27, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2021 14 minutes ago, Not Jeremy said: I am however already working on another new book for Wild Swan that does feature rolling stock, with others to follow hopefully. Apart from anything else it is a subject that interests me a lot! Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel W Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 I enjoyed Twilight of the Goods, and am always excited for more rolling stock books. Looking forward to recieving my copy of Acquired Wagons Vol 3 in the post too after the delay in publishing. The reference pictures of post-nationalisation PO wagons alone should make it worth the price of purchase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Alder Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 I have a collection of PO wagons taken by Roye England - got them as prints decades ago from some forgotten where and they are wagon porn to an aficionado. Best start laying in some kits! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Possibly the cheapest for Vol 3 £15.22 post free or you can get from the same supplier on Amazon for £18.05 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pteremy Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 As no one else seems to have said it, I will say that this is another excellent book. The venn diagram of the railway modelling community includes a hard core of true historical scholarship, which deserves to be revered for what it is. Playing trains is good fun, but the potential for scholarship adds something else. Most of us can contribute in some way - by researching a particular line for example, or modelling a particular era. Or by making our stock - including wagons - as historically accurate as possible. 2 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Vol 3 includes an errata for Vols 1 & 2 and having got to page 41 I am tempted to leave it on the bookshelf until Vol 5 presumably has an errata for it. Alarm bells rang with the introduction stating at the start of the fourth paragraph "In addition to the oil axleboxes mentioned previously..." when there is no such or is it a reference in the book or is it to Vol 1 or 2 in which case should be stated. There seems to be something amiss on page 26 where after describing "End door only" there is an entry of "End or end and bottom doors only" - assuming that "or end" should be deleted. More problematic are the first two paragraphs on page 32 - the first might relate to the photo on page 39. The second paragraph refers to "the lower view on page 38" but there is only one photo on that page although the rest of paragraph is correct for that photo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Not Jeremy Posted March 25, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 25, 2021 20 minutes ago, Butler Henderson said: Vol 3 includes an errata for Vols 1 & 2 and having got to page 41 I am tempted to leave it on the bookshelf until Vol 5 presumably has an errata for it. Alarm bells rang with the introduction stating at the start of the fourth paragraph "In addition to the oil axleboxes mentioned previously..." when there is no such or is it a reference in the book or is it to Vol 1 or 2 in which case should be stated. There seems to be something amiss on page 26 where after describing "End door only" there is an entry of "End or end and bottom doors only" - assuming that "or end" should be deleted. More problematic are the first two paragraphs on page 32 - the first might relate to the photo on page 39. The second paragraph refers to "the lower view on page 38" but there is only one photo on that page although the rest of paragraph is correct for that photo. Ah well - what did you expect at £15.22 including post ? 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Not Jeremy Posted March 26, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 26, 2021 14 hours ago, Butler Henderson said: Vol 3 includes an errata for Vols 1 & 2 and having got to page 41 I am tempted to leave it on the bookshelf until Vol 5 presumably has an errata for it. Alarm bells rang with the introduction stating at the start of the fourth paragraph "In addition to the oil axleboxes mentioned previously..." when there is no such or is it a reference in the book or is it to Vol 1 or 2 in which case should be stated. There seems to be something amiss on page 26 where after describing "End door only" there is an entry of "End or end and bottom doors only" - assuming that "or end" should be deleted. More problematic are the first two paragraphs on page 32 - the first might relate to the photo on page 39. The second paragraph refers to "the lower view on page 38" but there is only one photo on that page although the rest of paragraph is correct for that photo. OK Cheeky comments about price aside, I have checked the book and your comments I think are fair observations. But what is less fair to David, his publishers and potential purchasers, is your implication that somehow the book is therefore "not good enough". Your comment about leaving it on the shelf and waiting for the errata in the next volume is pretty mean to say the least. David is not especially known for impeccable English or exhaustive referencing abilities, what he is well known for is his interest in and knowledge of British railway wagons, the subject of this book, and also great generosity in providing information on the subject to us all over very many years. For those contemplating a purchase, (even at £15.22 from "we couldn't give a fig books ltd"), this book really is a good source of both information and photographs on its subject, which is of great interest to many of us. It is not perfect, but very few things in this life are. As my printer once said to me; "Simon, nobody has ever yet produced the perfect book" I am a publisher and, believe me, the ease with which mistakes (even quite big ones) can creep in to a book before it gets printed is the sort of thing that can keep you awake at night. I haven't yet produced a perfect one, but I'll keep trying and I hope David Larkin does too. Simon 9 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 19 hours ago, Butler Henderson said: Vol 3 includes an errata for Vols 1 & 2 and having got to page 41 I am tempted to leave it on the bookshelf until Vol 5 presumably has an errata for it. Alarm bells rang with the introduction stating at the start of the fourth paragraph "In addition to the oil axleboxes mentioned previously..." when there is no such or is it a reference in the book or is it to Vol 1 or 2 in which case should be stated. There seems to be something amiss on page 26 where after describing "End door only" there is an entry of "End or end and bottom doors only" - assuming that "or end" should be deleted. More problematic are the first two paragraphs on page 32 - the first might relate to the photo on page 39. The second paragraph refers to "the lower view on page 38" but there is only one photo on that page although the rest of paragraph is correct for that photo. 50 years of research suitably dismissed. Sad. An attempt to condense the history of half a million wagons, gleaned from tiny corners of Britain. No one else is going to do the same, so accept what is offered. What is sadder is how long it is going to take to produce this series as David is ageing, like the rest of us. Paul 11 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I' m not dismissing the worth of the book, just wary of making the wrong assumption where an error exists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 26, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 26, 2021 23 hours ago, Butler Henderson said: I am tempted to leave it on the bookshelf until Vol 5 presumably has an errata for it. 3 hours ago, Butler Henderson said: I' m not dismissing the worth of the book, just wary of making the wrong assumption where an error exists. ?? Mike. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Andy Vincent Posted January 20, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) Volume 4 is finally due out on April 28 this year (2022) according to the Crecy web site. It covers General Merchandise Vans & Containers, Special Purpose Vans & Cattle Wagons Edited January 20, 2022 by Andy Vincent 2 1 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Strathwood Posted January 21, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 21, 2022 We have an advance order in for stocks of this when it arrives and will be doing some sort of deal I suspect as we did on the first three volumes from time to time. Kevin 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR traction instructor Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 (edited) On 26/03/2021 at 15:16, hmrspaul said: 50 years of research suitably dismissed. Sad. An attempt to condense the history of half a million wagons, gleaned from tiny corners of Britain. No one else is going to do the same, so accept what is offered. What is sadder is how long it is going to take to produce this series as David is ageing, like the rest of us. Paul I have a comprehensive library of wagon reference books by various authors and consult most of them constantly. If I discarded those that weren’t 100% accurate then I wouldn’t have any left to consult. My modelling would be considerably poorer and less informed without Mr Larkin’s outstanding contribution. BeRTIe Edited January 21, 2022 by BR traction instructor 3 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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