Andy Y Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Bachmann today held their mid-year press day to update us with latest progress; back with a big bang with loads to see and an upbeat message on new production facilities coming on-stream at Gaobo with a dedicated railway production facility. Steve Tooley, R&D manager demonstrated that the workflow is improving backed up with the evidence of many new models reaching EP stage. Press Day 31 August 2018 Presentation Notes Overview Branchline products due for/delivered 2018 Class 150/2 Class 70 (with revised air intake) LBSCR Atlantic – in transit BR Jinty with Sound GNR Atlantic – (new tender variant) Thompson Coaches MK2F Coaches – in transit POTS Coaches – in transit FFA/FGA Container Flats – in transit Carflats OO9 – Baldwin Tank locoBogie Covered (Ambulance) VanOpen D bogie wagon Farish – delivered 2018 Hawksworth coaches – 1st run in maroon livery Commissions – delivered 2018 Carflats – 6 variants for The N Gauge Society Commisions – Flats and Bolster wagons (13 variants) for TMC Since December 2017 there have been 16 upgraded or totally new products delivered or due for imminent arrival. The Narrow-Gauge range has been very well received and has sold out in each instance prior to arrival. Branchline - Western Pullman Sound capability with two independant DCC sound systems each mounted in the roof of the power cars Upgraded speaker system with roof mounted sugar cube speakers and custom designed sound chamber Pre-orders for this premium train set have been extremely strong and we believe the fully configured independently controlled twin sound system we are demonstrating today will continue to build on this. Likewise the Farish train pack version has again seen very strong pre-sale order intake. Branchine EP1’s Class 117 3-Car Diesel Multiple Unit To be produced in 3 liveries – BR Green, BR Blue & Grey, Network South East Features – Directional Lighting, Interior Lighting, Speaker fitted 21 Pin DCC Decoder socket Class 117 – Highly detailed underframe – plated and non-plated headcode variants – earlier variants with no tail lights – square buffers and no corridor connector – later version gangwayed Class 121 Diesel Railcar To be produced in 3 liveries – BR Green, BR Blue & Grey, Network South East Features Directional Lighting, Interior Lighting, Speaker fitted, Flexible Speedo Drive between body and bogie, 21 Pin DCC Socket Class 121 – Plated and non-plated headcode boxes – again highly detailed underframe – square and round buffer variants – later variant with bodyside grill Class 414/2HAP Class 414/2HAP – Flexible speedo drive – high intensity headlight – highly detailed underframe – not just a simple combination of a Thumper and an EPB as was initially suggested 2 Car Electric Multiple Unit To be produced in 3 liveries – BR Green, BR Blue & Grey, Network South East Features – Illuminated and Interchangeable Head-code panels, all wheel pick up with conductive coupling, Speaker fitted 21 Pin DCC Decoder Socket Class 24 To be produced in 3 liveries – BR Green with small yellow panel, BR Green & BR Blue Includes Directional Lighting, Cab lighting, Sprung Buffers and pre-fitted speaker 21 Pin DCC Decoder socket Class 24 – Accurate cab roof and window profile – highly detailed moulded grill variants – comprehensive tooling to cover many sub-class variants – with and without underframe fairing – highly detailed bogies with etched components to enhance detail – plated and open boiler grill variants Engineering Prototypes at EP2 Stage Class 158 3 Livery Variants Multiple detail variants Switchable day/night modes, illuminated destination blinds, factory fitted speaker 21 Pin DCC decoder socket installed Class 158 – Working door interlock lights – Interior and directional lights – day/night light mode – Cummins and Perkins diesel engine variants – low profile mechanism – easy access decoder install via underframe clip fit hatch CAD design stage Johnson 1P Produced in Midland Railway Crimson, LMS Unlined Black and BR Lined Black Includes pre fitted speaker, Realistic Firebox Flicker, Sprung Buffers Variants include Round top and Belpaire firebox, Condensing Equipment for Metropolitan Railway working Enable with an 18 Pin Decoder socket Johnson 1P – number of variants have effectively demanded two body shell types to cover – different vacuum ejectors – different sandboxes – Salter and Ross Pop safety valves – with or without push pull apparatus – condensing and non-condensing boilers – two versions of chimney, smoke box door and coal rails Quarry Hunslet To be produced in 4 liveries specific to the Quarry’s they operated at Cob or no cab variants Includes 6 Pin DCC Decoder Socket Quarry Hunslet – with or without cab – different chimney heights – different buffer beams – different handrails – Ramsbottom and Salter safety valve versions with trumpet where relevant 94xx Pannier To be produced in 3 liveries – GWR Green, BR Black early Crest, BR black late crest Body variations dependant on Swindon works or outside contractor built loco’s Factory fitted speaker, sprung buffers, realistic firebox flicker Includes Next 18 Decoder socket 94xx Pannier Tank – tooling to cover GWR and BR build variants (lamp irons etc.) – different bunker step variants – plated or non-plated front valance below smokebox – coreless motor Engineering Prototypes at EP1 Stage – Farish Thompson Corridor Coaches 4 Variants of coach – Corridor First, Corridor Composite, Corridor Third and Corridor Brake Third 2 Liveries to be produced – LNER Teak, BR Crimson & Cream Thompson Corridor Coaches – 4 coach types to create prototypical train CAD design stage Stanier Class 8F Loco Drive Chassis with Coreless Motor Current collected through loco and tender Rivetted and Flush sided tender variants Speaker fitted, factory installed sound on 372-163DS Stanier Class 8F – rivetted and non-rivetted tender types – 2 wheel designs to cover cast and built up balance weight variants – late BR variant with reduced height lamp iron on smokebox door – snow plough fitted variant – with or without AWS fitment Class 31 Refurbished To be produced in BR original Railfreight livery, BR Railfreight Petroleum Sector livery and Network Rail livery Multiple detail varoiants Includes directional lighting and factory fitted speaker Includes Next 18 Decoder socket Class 31 Refurbished – with or without roof cowl (hat) – side grills in horizontal or vertical position – 2 variants of high intensity headlight positions or no headlight– optional snow ploughs – prototypical A1A drive system Further Engineering updates updates to be released at the Warley Show in November Livery samples of the J72 were on show; a very appealing loco! We'll have lots more to show in video form in a forthcoming BRM about the products and the Collectors' Club event including a ride along the Churnet Valley. 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted September 1, 2018 Author Share Posted September 1, 2018 Bump. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted September 1, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 1, 2018 Thats great news Andy - particularly the 117 and the 24 Many thanks for sharing Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
159220 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Thank you Andy Y. You mentioned the class 150/2 is being delivered in 2018, did Bachmann confirm whether they are adjusting to tooling to accommodate the toilet modification (missing small window) and WiFi modules to the roof? The class 158 looks terrific! Did Bachmann say whether they have tooled the additional WiFi modules to the roof of the GWR (and any current future livery) version? Was there any report on the status of the Class 20/3? Surprised and slightly saddened for the hobby by seeing Bachmann have not taken the opportunity to put Hatton's straight and announce a re-tool of the class 66 as rumoured. Rather chuffed with 37025 as a limited edition! Just need some Network Rail test coaches out of the Mk2F tooling! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted September 1, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 1, 2018 (edited) Rather chuffed with 37025 as a limited edition! Did I miss that above? EDIT: Now seen on separate thread. Thanks Andy, but on the subject of 37s was there anything said about the timing of the Sales Rep. limited editions? Edited September 1, 2018 by brushman47544 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Does the J72 come with proper (useable) three link couplings or is it just a mock up? I'm pondering replacing my old one and converting that to a J71 using the Mainly Trains kit. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted September 1, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 1, 2018 Surprised and slightly saddened for the hobby by seeing Bachmann have not taken the opportunity to put Hatton's straight and announce a re-tool of the class 66 as rumoured. Why? Head to head duplication (as opposed to a manufacturer bringing out a more highly detailed model) has been proven do do nothing other than split the profits (i.e. the number of purchasers doesn't suddenly double because there are now 2 models to chose from). This changes what was a positive expenditure / revenue ratio to a negative one and no half sensible business will tolerate that. It may of course be that Bachmann were working on a 66 upgrade that got put on hold when Hattons announced theirs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiddles47 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I see the MK2f's are in transit.. does this include the DBSO's too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaneofFife Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 i thought Barwell was getting the Blue and Grey FO's only at the moment? The POTS should be popular. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DRS Crewe On A Mission Posted September 1, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 1, 2018 Thank you for the update Andy and to individual members who have contributed photos and information. It's much appreciated. Happy to see that 37025 has been announced as a new Rep Edition, although for modellers/collectors like myself who already have the Rails Limited Edition model from a few years ago, it's slightly annoying that a Limited Edition has been repeated even if it is in the updated guise. I would really like the new 025 but it's wether I can sell the old one first. But apart from 025 it's slightly dissapointing that 116 and 704 have been announced as older liveried models. I can think of a few modern 37s that could have been announced instead. Especially considering that the first batch of Rep Editions of 37s were all older liveries with the exception of 425 in Compass. Good to see photos of the 158, I am sure the GWR one will look amazing. Alike 159220 I would be interested to hear if their are any updates on the 20/3s. After all these were announced 20 months ago now. Also interesting to see that a new Class 66 hasn't been announced, unless one gets announced at the beginning of 2019... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndg910 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 (edited) Whats the latest on the crane front ? And the warflats? Edited September 1, 2018 by ndg910 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 V2 ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted September 1, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 1, 2018 Why? Head to head duplication (as opposed to a manufacturer bringing out a more highly detailed model) has been proven do do nothing other than split the profits (i.e. the number of purchasers doesn't suddenly double because there are now 2 models to chose from). This changes what was a positive expenditure / revenue ratio to a negative one and no half sensible business will tolerate that. It may of course be that Bachmann were working on a 66 upgrade that got put on hold when Hattons announced theirs. Agreed. Look what has happened with the Class 71. Eventual discounting on both models - the dealer loses out, the manufacturers lose out. We may gain in the short term as buyers, but reduced profits means less models/model shops in the future. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted September 1, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 1, 2018 (edited) Surprised and slightly saddened for the hobby by seeing Bachmann have not taken the opportunity to put Hatton's straight and announce a re-tool of the class 66 as rumoured. That presumably only matters to those who want model Class 66's in Bachmann boxes as opposed to models of Class 66's. Given the customary length of Bachmann's gestation process, and the variety of liveries so far announced by Hatton's, I suspect the market would have been well-and-truly sated long before such a model came to fruition. John Edited September 4, 2018 by Dunsignalling 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Agreed. Look what has happened with the Class 71. Eventual discounting on both models - the dealer loses out, the manufacturers lose out. We may gain in the short term as buyers, but reduced profits means less models/model shops in the future. Cheers, Mick And the fragmented market probably ended the chance to have a RTR Class 74 as everyone filled their boots with discounted Class 71s. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1023 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Thanks for posting Andy. Typically the long term models I am waiting for (aircon's and Freightliner's) look like they are all going to arrive at the same time. The EPs shown of all the models look very good and I am very interested in the 2HAP and class 117. Rumoured retooled class 66 - why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted September 2, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 2, 2018 Surprised and slightly saddened for the hobby by seeing Bachmann have not taken the opportunity to put Hatton's straight and announce a re-tool of the class 66 as rumoured. Why on earth would they do that? It would take them 5 years to bring it to market, and Hattons are already at first EP stage. Bachmann could never hope to catch up, especially the level of detail Hattons are announcing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian J. Posted September 2, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 2, 2018 Not a new product, I know, but any news on when the maroon Portholes will be available? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil gollin Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 . I am amazed at the detailing underneath the multiple units - superb. Now, whether it is worth it instead of spending the money on detailed "painted" interiors is a matter of debate. What is not up for debate is the fact that a 2-car unit at over £200 (discounted) is rather off putting. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steve Purves Posted September 2, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 2, 2018 Any pictures of the CAD stage models? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share Posted September 2, 2018 Any pictures of the CAD stage models? I haven't got copies of those but the Quarry Hunslet looks amazing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share Posted September 2, 2018 Whats the latest on the crane front ? You mentioned the class 150/2 is being delivered in 2018, did Bachmann confirm whether they are adjusting to tooling to accommodate the toilet modification (missing small window) and WiFi modules to the roof? The class 158 looks terrific! Did Bachmann say whether they have tooled the additional WiFi modules to the roof of the GWR (and any current future livery) version? Was there any report on the status of the Class 20/3? Does the J72 come with proper (useable) three link couplings or is it just a mock up? If I didn't post it, it wasn't covered in the briefing but I may be able to get some answers during the week ahead. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beejack Posted September 2, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2018 Interesting that they are going to release a Refurbished Class 31. Hopefully they will also release non refurbished versions in the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share Posted September 2, 2018 Interesting that they are going to release a Refurbished Class 31. Hopefully they will also release non refurbished versions in the future. It's a Farish product; the early-body style has already been released a few years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted September 2, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) Delighted to see progress with the class 24. Although I realise Bachmann had always stated they were doing the version that mainly saw service on the LMR, with minute tooling differences they could easily produce the Highland version, with headlights and slotted boiler blanking grilles. However, SLW are almost certain to be doing that, so perhaps avoiding duplication is the reason. I really love the water/fuel tanks on the 24, hope they will be available as spares. The class 117 and 121 are on my shopping list and agree with other comments that the underframe detail sets new standards of superdetailing. Edit : surprising that the first generation DMUs are not initially offered in BR blue (as opposed the blue/grey). The livery that dominated in the late 1960s and throughout the 1970s. I'm sure they will come in due course. Neil Edited September 2, 2018 by Downendian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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