Robin Gristwood Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 4 hours ago, ChrisS said: Hello Robin, if you look at the reference photos on Paul Barlett's excellet website (link couple of posts earlier), from the available photos they don't appear to have been built with steps in the 1980s. The steps and additional handrails make appearances in Pauls photos dated the later half of the 1990s but not sure when the modification was actually done. I thought I read somewhere else that this was an EWS modification, so potentially dating this from the second half of the 90s - but don't quote me, as I'm definately no expert! Hi Chris, thanks for that information, that's really useful. As I've stretched the time setting of my layout era to mid '80's to include Turbots, I think I will remove the steps on the one wagon in that case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdseyecircus Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Great model but I must say they are rather oddly packed in the box, you are looking into the body of the wagon so you cannot see the model! Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIRCLASS80 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 8 hours ago, birdseyecircus said: Great model but I must say they are rather oddly packed in the box, you are looking into the body of the wagon so you cannot see the model! Paul If I remember correctly the OO version is packed the same way! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606odin Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 3 metre radius..... well that’s a screw up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Gristwood Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 On 12/08/2020 at 08:12, 47606odin said: 3 metre radius..... well that’s a screw up Hi Ian, Do you mean the minimum radius that the wagon will go round? The official data from Dapol says minimum radius is 2nd radius curve = 1028mm (40.5") Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Robin Gristwood said: Hi Ian, Do you mean the minimum radius that the wagon will go round? The official data from Dapol says minimum radius is 2nd radius curve = 1028mm (40.5") Pretty sure Ian's referring to the lettering printed on the side of the wagons. Which is probably quite accurate for the models! It should actually read 31 metres, so I'm sure there's an opportunity for Railtec to make a few quid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606odin Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Robin Gristwood said: Hi Ian, Do you mean the minimum radius that the wagon will go round? The official data from Dapol says minimum radius is 2nd radius curve = 1028mm (40.5") the panel is in reference to the minimum radius of the full size wagon. It’s 31 metres not 3. Dapol have cocked it up 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606odin Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Steve Bell at Railtec transfers has made correct transfers for the 31 metre radius if anyone wants to rectify the legend on the sides of their wagons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) The EWS version PS now confirmed that EWS have these as "3 METERS" for the minimum curve. Dapol have copied it correctly - including the mis-spelling of metre. Edited August 31, 2020 by hmrspaul 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606odin Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Have I been unlucky? The amount of effort needed to rectify it would say it was built like it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel_H Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 On 27/08/2020 at 23:46, hmrspaul said: The EWS version PS now confirmed that EWS have these as "3 METERS" for the minimum curve. Dapol have copied it correctly - including the mis-spelling of metre. Do you have a picture of the original that you can share if the full size wagons’ panel please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 13 hours ago, Mel_H said: Do you have a picture of the original that you can share if the full size wagons’ panel please? No they came from an acquaintance whom I believe posts on here occasionally and I've never met. Quite clear on both photos that, for EWS livery, Dapol have copied correctly. The only EWS wagon I have a photo of is the rebody displayed at Toton open day and this doesn't have any of this writing. https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brturbot/eaf7c157 Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel_H Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, hmrspaul said: No they came from an acquaintance whom I believe posts on here occasionally and I've never met. Quite clear on both photos that, for EWS livery, Dapol have copied correctly. The only EWS wagon I have a photo of is the rebody displayed at Toton open day and this doesn't have any of this writing. https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brturbot/eaf7c157 Paul Ah ha! Just found a picture by Geoff Sheppard from April 2018 of a 'Turbo' at Dunster, West Somerset Railway, where it is now resident. As well as the missing 'T' on Turbot, it also shows the '3m' radius (I believe the correct figure is 31m?). While it may be that the figure '1' has dropped off or been removed, there is no doubt about the miss-spelling of 'metres' - which is shown as the measuring device (e.g. a gas meter), rather than a unit of measurement (metre). It's a common error that you see everywhere, even from organisations that should know... Anyway, picture below. Perhaps this was the reference wagon? Edited September 6, 2020 by Mel_H 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 13 hours ago, Mel_H said: Ah ha! Just found a picture by Geoff Sheppard from April 2018 of a 'Turbo' at Dunster, West Somerset Railway, where it is now resident. As well as the missing 'T' on Turbot, it also shows the '3m' radius (I believe the correct figure is 31m?). While it may be that the figure '1' has dropped off or been removed, there is no doubt about the miss-spelling of 'metres' - which is shown as the measuring device (e.g. a gas meter), rather than a unit of measurement (metre). It's a common error that you see everywhere, even from organisations that should know... Anyway, picture below. Perhaps this was the reference wagon? This has nothing to do with the TWO that I mentioned, which were in the Merehead traffic and in goodish condition. The 3 on these are in the same position, and not where a 3 from 31 would be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Here is the picture of mine I think Paul is referring to clearly showing ity must not go round of less than 3 gas meters! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Whoever stencilled that should be shot!! Didn't know we'd already become the 51st State! Al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ruggedpeak Posted September 8, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 8, 2020 Found this in my slide collection for anyone thinking about loads, notice how the middle pile is lower than than the ends. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 18 hours ago, brian daniels said: Here is the picture of mine I think Paul is referring to clearly showing ity must not go round of less than 3 gas meters! Thankyou Brian, finally someone may believe us. But I have not seen this photo before. I gave up trying to search the internet for photos as all I got were photos of models (and fish!). As mentioned a poor stencil which appears to have multiplied this mistake many times over. Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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