atom3624 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 49 minutes ago, Roy Langridge said: Sorry, but you have lost me. OO is a gauge whether you say OO or OO gauge. Anyhow, whatever makes you happy, Roy OO is the SCALE, NOT the GAUGE. HO is - unfortunately - our Gauge. Were we to be OO scale / OO gauge - it would not be called OO / HO. OO Gauge = P4 = 18.83mm gauge. HO Gauge = 'Normal OO/HO' whereby 'we' use HO gauge, with 16.5mm between the rails - unfortunately. An incorrect application which can never be corrected, unfortunately, unless you've the patience of a saint, and the funds of a lottery winner, and run P4. Al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, atom3624 said: OO is the SCALE, NOT the GAUGE. HO is - unfortunately - our Gauge. Were we to be OO scale / OO gauge - it would not be called OO / HO. OO Gauge = P4 = 18.83mm gauge. HO Gauge = 'Normal OO/HO' whereby 'we' use HO gauge, with 16.5mm between the rails - unfortunately. An incorrect application which can never be corrected, unfortunately, unless you've the patience of a saint, and the funds of a lottery winner, and run P4. Al. Not disagreeing with you but I'd like to see you telling some members of the Scalefour society that they are modelling OO gauge 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 When I first found out, as an OCD teenager 45 years ago, I wasn't best pleased!! To this day I still ask myself if it was a 'valvegear consideration' how come 'Continental' HO modellers - let's call them HO/HO (it's nearly Christmas after all!!) - can purchase HO scale / HO gauge models, yet 'we' have to put up with imperfectly proportioned OO/HO .... broken record to all of us no doubt. MOVIN' ON .... !! Let's see what the Warley Surprise will be. Al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdvle Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, atom3624 said: To this day I still ask myself if it was a 'valvegear consideration' how come 'Continental' HO modellers - let's call them HO/HO (it's nearly Christmas after all!!) - can purchase HO scale / HO gauge models, yet 'we' have to put up with imperfectly proportioned OO/HO .... broken record to all of us no doubt. Lack of high level platforms in the steam era? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 That's a very astute consideration, but cannot change anything now! I suppose most are finescale-enough NOW that it's generally the cylinders protruding most, so using 'modern standards' it could work. Explaining the 'Continental modellers' I think you are 100% correct - 60's Tri-ang valve motion - even Hornby Dublo's - was a tad 'heavy handed'. This could probably have caught on UK-style higher platforms, generally not present on the 'Continent'. Al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted November 20, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 20, 2019 I was always led to believe it was our tiny loading gauge and the size of motors back then that led to Us having OO rather than HO. Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 I always had room inside my Sir Winston, Flying Scottie, but agree it was tight inside the (probably closer to HO/HO) Princess Royal - with the X-04's used at the time. Scalextric was around, with smaller motors, with decent power, but perhaps there just wasn't that much choice 'back then'. It's all 'consigned' now ... pity. Al. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 It's bound to be a Mark 1 RBR. The reason, I've almost completed a conversion with Comet sides. By the way lads, nobody does the RBR. I think the only RTR RBR was mainline or someone from the dim and distant. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 item of rolling stock ...maybe its a KUA flask wagon seems KR models are not doing their so called version ... or a BVA coil / slab wagon as used from Tinsley to Immingham 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Maybe it's an A-S Pepsi Cola wagon ...... Al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 23 minutes ago, atom3624 said: Maybe it's an A-S Pepsi Cola wagon ...... Al. Don't like Pepsi. Too sweet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 minute ago, RBAGE said: Don't like Pepsi. Too sweet. What about Shirlie ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDG Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 40 minutes ago, bazjones1711 said: item of rolling stock ...maybe its a KUA flask wagon seems KR models are not doing their so called version ... or a BVA coil / slab wagon as used from Tinsley to Immingham Yep, it's going to be a KUA flask wagon to go with the DRS Class 37/6's. And I'd be very happy with that.... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegleg90 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Log train wagons? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDG Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Where abouts Mick? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDG Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Thanks Mick, found it now... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
killucan2 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 On 19/11/2019 at 16:00, McC said: just to be clear the Class 37 range is not the ‘big’ announcement still to come at the Warley show A range of 0 Guage mk2s ,two manufacturers doing mk1s..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIRCLASS80 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Hopefully a OO Class 50. They seem to know a lot about their bogies!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 A shunter, nobody does shunters these days Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack374 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, KDG said: Yep, it's going to be a KUA flask wagon to go with the DRS Class 37/6's. And I'd be very happy with that.... I'd be happy too...I'd like to model this formation, and (bar 37069) would be able to now thanks to the Bachmann escort coaches and the Accurascale tractor: (Flickr link) Looking forward to what'll be on Accurascale's table on Saturday... Jack. Edited November 21, 2019 by Jack374 Photo not accredited to Flickr 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted November 21, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) Hi everyone, Well we are on board our flight in a rather wet Dublin and are on our way to Brum! We will be spending the next week in the UK doing various things between Warley, meetings and maybe even a survey of a some rolling stock for future announcements in 2020! Please note that our office is closed until next Thursday, November 28th. Make sure you drop by the stand on Saturday morning at 10:15 for the launch and a bit about the 37! Cheers! Fran Edited November 21, 2019 by Accurascale Fran 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 21, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 21, 2019 4 hours ago, Jack374 said: I'd be happy too...I'd like to model this formation, and (bar 37069) would be able to now thanks to the Bachmann escort coaches and the Accurascale tractor: (Flickr link) Now that Revolution have announced the KUA in N gauge and they are known to collaborate with Accurascale, I'm moving my bet...…………….. (Goes to source a couple of Mk2e BSOs...…….) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Accurascale Fran said: Hi everyone, Well we are on board our flight in a rather wet Dublin and are on our way to Brum! We will be spending the next week in the UK doing various things between Warley, meetings and maybe even a survey of a some rolling stock for future announcements in 2020! Please note that our office is closed until next Thursday, November 28th. Make sure you drop by the stand on Saturday morning at 10:15 for the launch and a bit about the 37! Cheers! Fran I reckon that O gauge 14 coach APT-P announcement will just about fit down the inside of the 737 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I still hope for 37's big brother, the 40. Al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 21, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, atom3624 said: I still hope for 37's big brother, the 40. Al. Or it's even bigger brother - the 737 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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