RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted June 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 9, 2020 On 07/06/2020 at 16:55, John M Upton said: The CDL lights are still there on the blue/grey artwork... Aren’t the blue/grey ones the only livery variant which didn’t have CDL lights? If so, it’s probably asking a bit much for a separate tooling just for that one version. It’s not going to stop me getting some as the lights are only going to be about 1mm square and a fraction of that in depth. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMS Railtech Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 11 hours ago, Les1952 said: Licensing issues? Either a refusal or a delay, or perhaps a retailer exclusive. Any of these is possible. Les Yes it’s a retailer exclusive... :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crompton Power Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 On 05/06/2020 at 11:54, Lukas G. said: I’m unsure about those myself but I would believe they would be for departmental/charter use. It’s actually Fastline instead of Serco. Doesn’t make much sense to me to offer those as they are very obscure wagons (To the point of people not knowing about their existence) and to offer those instead of a livery like Caledonian Sleeper green is an interesting decision. It's a staff canteen and mess coach. It's certainly a strange choice, especially as it's the same prototype but with different branding. More details can be found here: http://www.departmentals.com/departmental/977989 It carried Jarvis branding first then Fastline, it's currently on the Wensleydale Railway at Leeming Bar. Cheers, Keith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted February 22, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 22, 2021 Has there been any news on these and I have just missed it or have Dapol forgotten they were supposed to be making these? It's gone very quiet... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted February 23, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2021 The Dapol catalogue says Q1 2021. I don’t think they have forgotten. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted February 24, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 24, 2021 Now updated to Q2 2021. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted March 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 30, 2021 Ooooh, email from Rails of Sheffield, Dapol's Mk3 Sleepers should be arriving at last in April/May!!! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padishar Creel Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Just now, John M Upton said: Ooooh, email from Rails of Sheffield, Dapol's Mk3 Sleepers should be arriving at last in April/May!!! saw that on their FB-page. Finally es grüßt pc 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted April 27, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 27, 2021 Now shunted to June/July.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted April 27, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, John M Upton said: Now shunted to June/July.... Carefully, I hope. We don’t want to wake anybody up. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted June 18, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 18, 2021 ...and now drifting out to July/August... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted July 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 15, 2021 Still no sign and now my local retailer has just bumped up the price by a couple of quid on the QT... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted July 20, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 20, 2021 Now September/October. I shan't bother to enquire which year though anymore.... Come on Dapol. pull your fingers out!!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Were these, along with the other Daopl stuff, that is on the ship that got stuck in the Suez? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted July 20, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 20, 2021 They only listed the O Gauge bubble cars and OO hoppers as being stuck on the Evergiven. Possibly a good thing, depending where abouts on the ship it was I can’t imagine being sat in a metal container in the baking Egyptian heat for so long does model railway products much good Tom. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMS Railtech Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Good Evening All, We have received samples of the MK3 Caledonian Sleeper Twin Packs we are exclusively doing with Dapol. See images below. We now expect our packs to be delivered between Q3 and Q4 of this year. We have commisioned 4 Packs in Total: KMS 1 - Stag Twin KMS 2 - First Caledonian White Stripe KMS 3 - First Caledonian Gold Band and No Band KMS 4 - De-Branded White Stripe Priced at £58 per twin pack and available to order here: https://www.kmsrailtech.co.uk/334-mk3-sleeper 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Steadfast Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 It looks like Dapol have done an ok job on the deco, but the end details of the coach don't look sleeper derived. A shame. From memory, high detail CAD images were never shared with the press or the community. Here's what it should look like. The upper recesses on the model should have circular tail lamps in them, and the lower recesses shouldn't exist. The tanking pipes are integrated with the handrails. This picture off Flickr illustrates the point. Looks like the end doors have the small windows of the day stock, too. Jo 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium JR_P Posted August 14, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 14, 2021 So three years after announcing, we finally get to see something tangible, albeit inaccurate.... I guess Dapol were too busy doing ‘other things’ over the past three years to get the mk3 sleeper correct.... I’d be curious to know how many iterations of CAD they had and how closely they scrutinised it, because even a cursory glance (as detailed above) shows errors - I can’t help but feel they started with existing CAD from day stock and just amended the window arrangement.... Moreover, speaking as someone who has experience of CAD QC-ing, either their CAD assessment routine isn’t rigorous enough (resulting in errors), or they’re not too fussed about accuracy - sadly, one of these scenarios must be true.... Anyway, that aside, I’ll have them battering along at full tilt behind my Revolution 92, so I guess they’ll be travelling too fast to notice the errors.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frobisher Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, JR_P said: So three years after announcing, we finally get to see something tangible, albeit inaccurate.... I guess Dapol were too busy doing ‘other things’ over the past three years to get the mk3 sleeper correct.... To be completely fair, Dapol had never actually promised those modifications to the tooling. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Robert Shrives Posted August 14, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, frobisher said: To be completely fair, Dapol had never actually promised those modifications to the tooling. True, the model was seen as a quick win for the range, prompted by works on the 252 project. Clearly in the modern day getting a new tooling rather than changing a slide is quite expensive and would not see a twin pack for circa £60. £60 each maybe. My 10 pence worth was that the ends would be against a loco of day stock so the omission was going to give some angst but was acceptable in the bigger picture. With a care given the variation of day stock on the Fort William an accurate train is possible but I too would love to see a BUO and RLO to match. Robert 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted August 14, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 14, 2021 I would think the ends could be modified quite easily by the average modeller. A nice blast of track filth should conceal any minor imperfections. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 The GWR sleeper always runs with the sleepers London end, so in the down direction direction the tail lights are very visible as they are lit. Ok no need to make them lit or even a separate part, but at least if they're moulded (and tampo printed red perhaps) the willing could drill and fit LEDs. I wasn't expecting the shape error of the roof and ends on the Dapol mk3s to be corrected, as then the sleeper would stand out mixed in and couldn't share tooling, but in 2021 the mix of detail on a new tooling does seem a touch disappointing. Admittedly the ends do look to be shared with the MK3 buffet Dapol produced a few years back, but they're not exactly accurate for the Mk3a style they appear to depict. Not sure why it needs 4 water fillers on each end - was this a model from the era of Dapol with the person we don't mention any more? Pic of Mk3a, which Dapol appear to have been aiming for, linked from Flickr: Dapol buffet: Maybe someone will 3D print some drop in ends? Jo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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