Zomboid Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I see that the second episode of the programme is on tomorrow evening and it's the 'critics' choice' in the ST Culture magazine again. Where did that week go? Probably wasted much of it reading this forum thread. G I'm quite looking forward to watching a whole episode. Will see if Mrs Z wants to watch as well, she likes the "Great British _____ off" genre. And it was her who alerted me to this one. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted October 11, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 11, 2018 I had thoughts about using Corgi 1:72 Vulcan but think the weight might be a problem? That and making it travel across the 10 foot layout at an appropriate speed? Ever thought of putting it on a pendelum? arranged that it turns at the end of the swing so that its always nose first. The only problem I can see is that you will need a 30 foot high ceiling to accomodate it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TheQ Posted October 11, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 11, 2018 Ever thought of putting it on a pendelum? arranged that it turns at the end of the swing so that its always nose first. The only problem I can see is that you will need a 30 foot high ceiling to accomodate it. With DCC sounds... four Rolls Royce Olympus should put the frighteners on the opposition.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ryde-on-time Posted October 11, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 11, 2018 Ever thought of putting it on a pendelum? arranged that it turns at the end of the swing so that its always nose first. The only problem I can see is that you will need a 30 foot high ceiling to accomodate it. Might just about fit in the hall at Warley (although I don't quite think my modelling is up to being shown there) Would probably also need a van just for the drain pipe I would need to cobble together to support it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian Morgan Posted October 11, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 11, 2018 I noticed that it says "S1. Ep.1". That makes me think that there will be another series. Knickerbockerglory TV sounded quite keen to make another series, but it all depends on viewer figures, and Channel 5 commissioning a second series. Time will tell. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) I liked the show more than the new series of Doctor Who* - Team Porthcawl's monsters were more convincing. * Jodie Whittaker: good; writing: pants. I've still got the new Dr Who to watch, I've had much more fun finalising my Cakebox Challenge* this week! Is there as much running about in the New Who as the trailer seemed to indicate? * That has a "monster" too...... Edited October 11, 2018 by Hroth 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Channel 5 did contact me to participate if I could bring in some more modellers. Through three local model railway clubs I did contact over 100 people but no-one was interested. I told Channel 5 what I had done in a follow up call so I was unable to help them. I was very impressed with the programme. I would like to invite them round to my flat to make the last railway joints and to ballast the track on my N gauge layout. What was running on the layout seemed almost irrelevant compared with laying the track and building the scenery. I am pleased to see more model railway programs. It reminded me of Blue Peter with Christopher Trace and Valerie Singleton. You would be surprised what you can make with a Fairy Liquid bottle, sticky back plastic and a pair of Val's Old Knickers.... She had left before my time, but that was a Little and Large catchphrase well into the 1980s. Jason 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 2mmMark Posted October 11, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 11, 2018 Knickerbockerglory TV sounded quite keen to make another series, but it all depends on viewer figures, and Channel 5 commissioning a second series. Time will tell. Sometimes these things are picked up by the independent channels such as UK TV or Discovery. S1.Ep1 isn't really any indication of whether there will be a second series. As Alan Partridge found out! Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted October 11, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 11, 2018 You would be surprised what you can make with a Fairy Liquid bottle, sticky back plastic and a pair of Val's Old Knickers.... Jason Any pictures? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmorgan_cym Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Like to see on hoe Strangers on a train made such a good job with the grass mat... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted October 11, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 11, 2018 Like to see on hoe Strangers on a train made such a good job with the grass mat... Static grass over the top of it basically Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted October 11, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 11, 2018 You would be surprised what you can make with a Fairy Liquid bottle, sticky back plastic and a pair of Val's Old Knickers.... Jason Any pictures? What, of Val's old knickers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Sometimes these things are picked up by the independent channels such as UK TV or Discovery. S1.Ep1 isn't really any indication of whether there will be a second series. As Alan Partridge found out! Mark Monkey Tennis? I'm pretty sure that Youth Hostelling With Chris Eubank, Inner City Sumo and Cooking In Prison are on the horizon.... Actually not far off from some programmes already made. Who would have thought that competitive railway modelling would be a TV programme when they made that back in 1997? https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0609596/quotes Jason 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted October 11, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 11, 2018 Knickerbockerglory TV sounded quite keen to make another series, but it all depends on viewer figures, and Channel 5 commissioning a second series. Time will tell. Certainly seems to be pulling in viewers from beyond the hobby based on office conversation this week (and my wife who is asking how come my layout is taking so long when this lot seem to be able to build a layout in a weekend!! ) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penlan Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) Certainly seems to be pulling in viewers from beyond the hobby .... And surely that is what it's meant to do......... If they also read the November issue of Railway Modeler, plenty of good modelling there this month, what's not to like, as they say way down west 'Proper Job'. Edited October 11, 2018 by Penlan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocoLaurie Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Knickerbockerglory TV sounded quite keen to make another series, but it all depends on viewer figures, and Channel 5 commissioning a second series. Time will tell. 1.1 million viewers on the first showing on the first Friday. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Walters Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Finally caught it on catchup this evening, mixed views really, It was good to see the rules being upheld, the 'Captain' from Missenden came across as smug more than arrogant, thinking they had won it before it even started. In the time allowed both of those who stuck to the rules IMO did very well, Porthcawl probably failed due more to the quantity of things they tried to build in, whereas Strangers went for the effective "diorama" type layout. For me it will remain a catch up program around modelling and other programs, but I expect I will watch the whole series. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ovbulleid Posted October 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2018 Hi Everyone, Oli from The Strangers team here. Been following the incredible number of comments that have gone up on here. It’s certainly very flattering to read so many people saying ‘the best team won’ or words to that effect. I’ve only just seen it as I’m on holiday at the moment so decided now to respond. The strangers team were put together by the production company, we all applied individually and then tried to rope in any modelling friends. The team went through a number of incarnations before the last 5 survivors came together- I hadn’t met Jack (incorrectly named as me) and John before we started filming. Advanced filming was done at Malcolm’s house where some preliminary work was done, but there wasn’t space in the final edit of the episode to include this. Some of us met to plan the ideas we had and we settled on ‘The Longest Day’. Someone asked why there weren’t more WW2 vintage engines on the track- in the end we used our budget to get an E4, Adams Radial and Q1, but we later checked with other teams who had used their own engines, if we had known this we would have had way more appropriate stock. Jack painted the ambulance train on the first day and we all thought it really looked the part. Harry (aka Skrillex) created an amazing soundscape which synchronised to the Spitfire and parachuting pilot, but unfortunately the final editing meant this wasn’t demonstrated as well as it could have been. We didn’t really know what Missenden we’re doing until towards the end of the second day as we were so frantically busy. I can believe that Missenden asked in advance, and a combination of a team knowing exactly what they meant and a production team with limited understanding of railway modelling meant the answer got lost in translation. It was an education for everyone, but rules are defined by precedents and the judges decided that the rules weren’t being followed so took action. I expect the rules to be clarified in future, and for the production team to improve their handling of queries about them. On that subject the production crew really were fantastic- the exec producer apparently used to do the same job for Top Gear- and they all were always trying to put the hobby in the best possible light while making great television- something I think they succeeded at. They did film excerpts on different elements of railway modelling (I saw one presenter push to film one when a contestant explained what he was doing) but the time pressures of cutting 3 days of filming down to 45 minutes meant this wasn’t shown for this episode. One day when the ‘extended directors cut’ dvd is released these will be seen. Or maybe when the second season gets a 90 minute running slot.... Speaking of second series, plenty of well established TV series’ ended up looking completely different to their first episode, so don’t be surprised if it has a few issues. The exec producer had lots of ideas for how to improve it going forward so if you like it, watch it repeatedly on catch-up to take viewing figures even higher so channel 5 commission a second series. The layouts which didn’t win could be taken home on completion, the winning layout was moved to a store room in case any further filming was needed during the filming. ‘Normandy Road’ was saved and there are plans to exhibit it (we had to run a saw through the back scene to get it in a van) but we need to dedicate some time to it first. It’s incredibly heavy so we need to make it a bit more portable and the wiring and electronics will need upgrading. But we have lots of ideas for how to improve it which we want to look at. I’ve seen a lot of comments about how the hobby has been trivialised or the technical elements rushed through. The only TV show I had seen before about this was ‘The joy of (train) sets’ on BBC 4, where it was never going to attract new and young followers. When the production crew approached me at the Ally Pally show I thought it sounded like a great idea which worst case scenario might attract a few new people while not changing opinions of the hobby for the most people. Everyone I know who saw it but isn’t into modelling really liked it and I’m sure after Christmas this forum will have plenty of new members whose first posts look like ‘I watched every episode and then for Christmas I was given a train set’. New hobbyists are what the hobby needs and this is the best recruitment tool we have at the moment and I’m proud to play a small part in bringing them in. If you’re sceptical then look at how much more popular baking became after Bake off, same with ceramics after the pottery throw-down. More followers creates more demand and choice, which increases variety and drives down cost, which everyone (including manufacturers and model shops) benefit from. In summary, I’d recommend it to anyone who thinks they could do better, and to those who think they’re not at competition standard (that included me). It is a test of teamwork and planning as much as experience, techniques which require weeks to deliver the desired effect are useless- our grass mat is the epitome of the phrase ‘perfect is the enemy of good enough’. 40 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEAMYAKIMA Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 It's the critics choice today in The Metro 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm7mm Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Static grass over the top of it basically the mat was laid over a foundation of lattice card board and then i moulded it into the down land effect you get if you look at it from a distance the edges were blended into the chalk face using a plaster/paint mixture to take the sharp white colour away i then added tufts of grass on a random basis also rubberised horse hair was used to make hedges at the end we sprayed shadows with an air brush to give a light/dark effect Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted October 12, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2018 the mat was laid over a foundation of lattice card board and then i moulded it into the down land effect you get if you look at it from a distance the edges were blended into the chalk face using a plaster/paint mixture to take the sharp white colour away i then added tufts of grass on a random basis also rubberised horse hair was used to make hedges at the end we sprayed shadows with an air brush to give a light/dark effect Thanks for clarifying this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmorgan_cym Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 the mat was laid over a foundation of lattice card board and then i moulded it into the down land effect you get if you look at it from a distance the edges were blended into the chalk face using a plaster/paint mixture to take the sharp white colour away i then added tufts of grass on a random basis also rubberised horse hair was used to make hedges at the end we sprayed shadows with an air brush to give a light/dark effect I thought it was a good use of a product that could easily be dismissed as toy like. Certain quicker than traditional methods, gaugemaster or woodland scenic? And does it count as pre built Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharris Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) And does it count as pre built Probably less so than the products of Peco, Bachmann and Hornby that I understand from the above comments are requirements of the competition. Edited October 12, 2018 by sharris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I doubt if it does, grassmat is a scenic aid, just like flock or static grass. Yes it's quicker to lay but you still need to "finish" it to make it look good. For the format of the programme I doubt there was any other way of doing the trackwork and the stock but to buy it ready made. Didn't see any Skaledale, though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I doubt if it does, grassmat is a scenic aid, just like flock or static grass. Yes it's quicker to lay but you still need to "finish" it to make it look good. For the format of the programme I doubt there was any other way of doing the trackwork and the stock but to buy it ready made. Didn't see any Skaledale, though! There are probably more useful things to spend a limited budget on than populating the landscape with Scaledale or Scenecraft buildings.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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