Zomboid Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 I've now seen the second one, and enjoyed that too. Can't argue with the winner, though if Walford had actually worked properly it would have been my choice - good though it was, the Blackadder link was pretty tenuous. The sci fi layout didn't really work and was the most unfinished, but there were still some decent the things in there. It's not 'serious' modelling really, but that's not intended as a criticism - it was what can you do in 24h with a silly theme. And the answer is that you can build a very credible model railway. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDJR7F88 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Done as you suggested its not there the ps4 app must be different I tried it in the PS4 and it doesn't seem to work for me on there too. Is on phones, and laptops however Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDJR7F88 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 (edited) I've now seen the second one, and enjoyed that too. Can't argue with the winner, though if Walford had actually worked properly it would have been my choice - good though it was, the Blackadder link was pretty tenuous. The sci fi layout didn't really work and was the most unfinished, but there were still some decent the things in there. It's not 'serious' modelling really, but that's not intended as a criticism - it was what can you do in 24h with a silly theme. And the answer is that you can build a very credible model railway. The link seemed pretty tenuous on screen as they missed out all but one of our Blackadder Cameos. We had... Meltches Manor (37 mile behind the front) Nursy and Mr Smith in the field hospital The opening credits, with Baldrick with his triangle and Melchet and darling. The red Barron Flashheart and his crashed plane And of course the bunker scene All can be seen in my video The crew had to get through the other layouts so must have cut those bits Edited October 14, 2018 by SDJR7F88 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Yeah, a lot of that wasn't explained in the broadcast, but it was still a worthy winner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Phil Parker Posted October 14, 2018 Administrators Share Posted October 14, 2018 The link seemed pretty tenuous on screen as they missed out all but one of our Blackadder Cameos. We had... Meltches Manor (37 mile behind the front) Nursy and Mr Smith in the field hospital The opening credits, with Baldrick with his triangle and Melchet and darling. The red Barron Flashheart and his crashed plane And of course the bunker scene All can be seen in my video The crew had to get through the other layouts so must have cut those bits Only Meltches Manor and Nursey didn't make it on screen - everything else appeared. I liked the Red Barron and thought the smoke from Flashheart's plane in the trench was very effective. What smoke generator did you use? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railroadbill Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 I think I smiled twice during the whole episode, once at the beginning and once at the end! As much as that! :-) Found the Noch church kit advertised that you gave me the heads up about so thanks again for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDJR7F88 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Only Meltches Manor and Nursey didn't make it on screen - everything else appeared. I liked the Red Barron and thought the smoke from Flashheart's plane in the trench was very effective. What smoke generator did you use? Think the generator was from Railroom electronics, can't remember bthe brand. It was a basic one, we use a bit of our £100 other item budget on it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 I think what I've picked up so far about doing the Challenge is: 1) Good project management is vital. Know who's doing what, when, right through from the pre-build to the final whistle. And allow time for 'issues'. 1a) Try to arrange anything that requires 'drying time' to happen overnight. 2) Keep it simple (apart from the animations). Fine to include sidings etc as 'Strangers' did, but there's no need to add point motors for the Challenge (though you could make allowance for them if you wished to motorise them post-challenge). Maybe even temporarily pin some of the points in one position so you can't accidentally send the train up the siding (like the scifi team did). Missenden seemed to have built quite an elaborate control panel (or was that another pre-build?), and the judges don't judge those... Get the track done and wired simply (i.e. just one controller feed to each circuit), then get on with the scenery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Coryton Posted October 14, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 14, 2018 I think what I've picked up so far about doing the Challenge is: 2) Keep it simple (apart from the animations). Fine to include sidings etc as 'Strangers' did, but there's no need to add point motors for the Challenge You may be right. However, the copy of the rules linked to a few pages back does include "NOTE – teams can operate points (manually or remotely) as they see fit. Extra credit will be awarded for remotely operated points." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theonlyadsrulz Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 You may be right. However, the copy of the rules linked to a few pages back does include "NOTE – teams can operate points (manually or remotely) as they see fit. Extra credit will be awarded for remotely operated points." On that point (pun intended) we did have point motors on 'Go Forth', but just the Peco surface mounted ones, which seemed to work fine, though one in particular was quite temperamental. From what I recall, the judges never even mentioned or asked about them! My memory isn't great though, so who knows! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john new Posted October 14, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 14, 2018 Liked the TfL stock on the Walford layout. Are they kits or an r-t-r item I've missed seeing advertised? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Phil Parker Posted October 14, 2018 Administrators Share Posted October 14, 2018 Liked the TfL stock on the Walford layout. Are they kits or an r-t-r item I've missed seeing advertised? Bachmann S Stock made for the London Transport Museum - https://www.ltmuseumshop.co.uk/models/s-stock#show=6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john new Posted October 14, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 14, 2018 Bachmann S Stock made for the London Transport Museum - https://www.ltmuseumshop.co.uk/models/s-stock#show=6 Thanks Phil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 You may be right. However, the copy of the rules linked to a few pages back does include "NOTE – teams can operate points (manually or remotely) as they see fit. Extra credit will be awarded for remotely operated points." I was thinking more that (apart from the rail gun), so far everything we've seen operated has been going round in circles rather than shunting. If that's all that's being demonstrated, then there's no need to motorise the siding points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
outcastjack Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Well... I really liked it. Given the time constraints the modelling has been amazing. I would still be laying track if I had started a layout at the same time the first show was filmed! They have managed to make what is certainly not a spectator sport into decent telly. Those complaining that it isn't a specialist modelling show are missing the point. If you want to see content aimed at the likes of us, dont go to prime time terrestrial tv, instead try Youtube or instagram or one of umpteen very good blogs and forums. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signalist Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 The S-Stock is made by Bachmann and was very kindly supplied by the London Transport museum for which we were very grateful. The museum is the only source. Although we did not get it running on the day it did look quite nice as a (very expensive) static exhibit. We did have the on-board DCC controlled announcements working as an 'animation' which was not shown. Our points were motorised and DCC controlled so that had the S-stock been running we would have been able to switch the S-stock and 350 in to their respective platforms automatically under JMRI control, and the signals set their correct aspects based on the point positions. We even had a motorised point on the Faller car system so that we could set the route for the bus down bridge street with a big red latching mushroom switch. Because it was market day the switch was clearly labelled 'DO NOT PRESS'. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyram Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 The link seemed pretty tenuous on screen as they missed out all but one of our Blackadder Cameos. We had... Meltches Manor (37 mile behind the front) Nursy and Mr Smith in the field hospital The opening credits, with Baldrick with his triangle and Melchet and darling. The red Barron Flashheart and his crashed plane And of course the bunker scene All can be seen in my video The crew had to get through the other layouts so must have cut those bits I spotted them all. A brilliant piece of modelling and a worthy winner. Well done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEAMYAKIMA Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 What l'm not 100% clear about is whether teams were given a free choice of topic within the overall theme. So as regards TV theme was there a free choice of programme ? Or a short list to choose from or were each team just given a topic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian Morgan Posted October 15, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 15, 2018 The themes given were just as stated - 'Movies', 'British TV Shows', and this week, 'Globetrotting' - nothing more, nothing less. The rest was up to us. We did have to submit our plans to the Production company, so they could avoid any duplication, but I doubt that was an issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddy water Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Interesting that both winners had war themes. More opportunities for moving gimmicks to impress the judges, especially as they all worked. Also by chance the series is being screened leading up to the 100th anniversary of the end of the Great War. THEY SHALL NOT BE FORGOTTEN! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bri.s Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) It’s good to see younger members of the hobby in the teams That will do a lot for the hobby in itself Brian Edited October 15, 2018 by Bri.s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 2mmMark Posted October 15, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 15, 2018 Do you think Cassetteboy will attempt a mash-up of the series? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific231G Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 The link seemed pretty tenuous on screen as they missed out all but one of our Blackadder Cameos. We had... Meltches Manor (37 mile behind the front) Nursy and Mr Smith in the field hospital The opening credits, with Baldrick with his triangle and Melchet and darling. The red Barron Flashheart and his crashed plane And of course the bunker scene All can be seen in my video The crew had to get through the other layouts so must have cut those bits The links with Black Adder Goes Forth didn't seem at all tenuous to me and I thought your layout was the most accomplished of the three in reflecting its theme. The last three cameos were all shown and referenced, albeit briefly. ISTR they also dwelt quite a lot on the Manor to explain kit bashing but not unfortunately its significance to the story. Presumably the judges did see all six and judged accordingly. So far it looks like the producers have been quite canny in the order they're showing the heats in. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian Morgan Posted October 15, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 15, 2018 I just found the list of heat themes online elsewhere, so I can repeat them here: Heat 1 - Classic Movies Heat 2 - British TV Heat 3 - Globetrotting Heat 4 - Fire and Ice Heat 5 - Water World (this is transmission order, not filming order) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewC Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 I just found the list of heat themes online elsewhere, so I can repeat them here: Heat 1 - Classic Movies Heat 2 - British TV Heat 3 - Globetrotting Heat 4 - Fire and Ice Heat 5 - Water World (this is transmission order, not filming order) Water World? Hope the modelling is better than the movie was. Many moons ago I presented to our club a new layout idea based on the Channel Tunnel. It was a washing up basin and a roll of fake grass. I wonder what the judges would have thought of that........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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