pmorgan_cym Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 I know its not going to happen but a Christmas special no holes bared scrap between Fawley and Missenden would be an eye opener One assumes you mean modelling not some sort of WWE Royal Rumble with entrants armed with lengths of sl300. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 "Alpine scenes" I was rather hoping one of the teams would base their model on Geoffrey Jones' 1963 film 'Snow' I see your "Snow", and I raise you "Snowdrift at Bleath Gill"! It would be doable in a GMRC context.... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejstubbs Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 (edited) I know its not going to happen but a Christmas special no holes bared scrap between Fawley and Missenden would be an eye opener One assumes you mean modelling not some sort of WWE Royal Rumble with entrants armed with lengths of sl300. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to bare any of my holes if someone was coming at me with a length of SL-300. The very thought brings tears to the eyes... Edited October 27, 2018 by ejstubbs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmorgan_cym Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Really I think it would be my prefered option! Really I think it would be my prefered option! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 Wouldn't it be more instructive and illustrative of the broader hobby for the GBP and especially its younger members attending to have the Missenden lot mentor (not control) the 'Railway Children'? That would be much more realistic and attainable by a wider section of the potential modelling community - other layouts present will adequately demonstrate 'proper' modelling. I think having Missenden's 'Ealing Road' on show will be a useful inspiration to show that planning some scenic aspects in advance of construction is a useful consideration for anyone starting a layout. Also, the fact that very good use of minimal cost materials such as the Scalescenes terraced housing and the decoupage photo backscene can add a lot for not a lot - making it more about modelling than purchasing. The other pre-constructed items such as the station, warehousing and boat are useful content items too. Maybe they can do a live ballasting tutorial. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 I enjoyed last night's programme and could not argue with the winner, although all 3 layouts were interesting. I do wonder, if they were exhibited at an exhibition, how they would be received; IMHO the Fawley layout would attract 'serious' modellers but the other two might well be more entertaining for the general public ? One thing I really like is the good humour of all the contestants, although perhaps a little more human interest could be added, maybe with a couple of the participants getting a bit too familiar with each other as per Strictly ! And finally I also find the background music unnecessary and annoying (why is it that any programme featuring railways seems to need jokey/bouncy tunes ?) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Seems to me the two ways a layout is guaranteed not to be the winner is if trackbed is not properly ballasted, and has exposed bare wood, and a feature fails or crashes. As to the theme of fire and ice the obvious UK layout would have been a snow/ice covered layout with burners dotted all around thawing out key infrastructure. Suspect some choices have been down to what one participant has already has on hand and can re use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Jonboy Posted October 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 27, 2018 Given the theme I was hoping for blast furnaces, kilns, fishing ports and associated traffic and sidings....ah well...enjoyed the show none the less... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimbus Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Given the theme I was hoping for blast furnaces, kilns, fishing ports and associated traffic and sidings....ah well...enjoyed the show none the less... ... top'n'tailed 9Fs on a string of bogie iron-ore hoppers... The Nim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffAlan Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 At last a realistic looking winner. Fawley looked great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 (edited) I'd imagine that the Fawley team had decided before hand what can we attempt to do within the constraints that we can usefully display at Fawley and be proud of it. Wow onto page 51! If Dave Gorman is reading this Modern Life is Goodish a found poem! Edited October 27, 2018 by AMJ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEAMYAKIMA Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 At last a realistic looking winner. Fawley looked great. I don't want to be negative about GMRC but TBH I thought the Railway Children should have won. I would probably spend very little time looking at the Fawley layout at a show. Why? Because I've seen that concept of layout dozens of times - I regret 'standard British OO' layouts bore me now unless they really stand out. The Santa layout from week 2 was much more the thing for me 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejstubbs Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 (edited) (reminder, the rules said that there had to be some 'OO' track for the camera train, but other sizes could be added) Could you (or someone else in the know) point out where the rules can be found, please? I've seen at least one other post mentioning that they've been posted/linked on this thread but blowed if I can track them down! Edited October 27, 2018 by ejstubbs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john new Posted October 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 27, 2018 (edited) I don't want to be negative about GMRC but TBH I thought the Railway Children should have won. I would probably spend very little time looking at the Fawley layout at a show. Why? Because I've seen that concept of layout dozens of times - I regret 'standard British OO' layouts bore me now unless they really stand out. The Santa layout from week 2 was much more the thing for me Bearing in mind the recording (rather than showing) order of these episodes as I was watching this heat one recording last night my thought was 'did their mountain inspire the 'high heels" for the Scrapbox challenge?' That was in the last heat to be recorded. Edited October 27, 2018 by john new Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian Morgan Posted October 27, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 27, 2018 ... perhaps a little more human interest could be added, maybe with a couple of the participants getting a bit too familiar with each other as per Strictly ! Personally speaking, none of the other participents in the espisodes I was involved in particularly floated my boat 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Scottish Modeller Posted October 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 27, 2018 (edited) Hi all, Who asked about The Rules? They are attached somewhere near the start of the thread. Those are the rules AS FIRST ISSUED and they changed more than once before we got to Fawley.... Between first getting issue one of the rules and the final set of rules Diesel Dynamos had to change a fair amount of what we intended to model in order that we complied with the rules as they were changed. One thing we were going to prebuild as was the roadway for the Faller vehicles. However, our interpretation of the rules left us feeling that we would no longer be compliant with the 6 articles pre built before the event. The prebuild for the roadway would have had 12 pieces, so whilst it would have prevented the crashing lorry situation, we could have been penalised for having too many prebuilt items. If we had know what we now know.... We would have prebuilt the roadway. Thanks Edited October 27, 2018 by Scottish Modeller Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 I don't want to be negative about GMRC but TBH I thought the Railway Children should have won. I would probably spend very little time looking at the Fawley layout at a show. Why? Because I've seen that concept of layout dozens of times - I regret 'standard British OO' layouts bore me now unless they really stand out. The Santa layout from week 2 was much more the thing for me Firstly the show is not aimed at railway modellers in particular, but the general viewing public who have certain set expectations. After that the vast majority of British railway modellers have a very set view about the hobby and the winner would sit very well with those who buy the bulk of RTR items (funding the hobby) This layout I doubt would interest those who are interested/partake in specialist areas of our hobby. But that is not the programs brief Whilst what is being built is not something I would want/copy I found on the whole this episode was as interesting as the first one in particular the amount of modelling all 3 groups achieved within the allotted time (plus preparation). Did I enjoy this program and was it entertaining a big YES to both for me 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 27, 2018 Seems to me the two ways a layout is guaranteed not to be the winner is if trackbed is not properly ballasted, and has exposed bare wood, and a feature fails or crashes. As to the theme of fire and ice the obvious UK layout would have been a snow/ice covered layout with burners dotted all around thawing out key infrastructure. Suspect some choices have been down to what one participant has already has on hand and can re use. The thing which really and repeatedly irritates me is nothing in the show itself but the bloomin' linked advert where the narrator manages to mangle 'Eskdale' into 'Exdale'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 I'd imagine that the Fawley team had decided before hand what can we attempt to do within the constraints that we can usefully display at Fawley and be proud of it. Wow onto page 51! If Dave Gorman is reading this Modern Life is Goodish a found poem! were not exactly the bottom dregs of the internet like the comments on a news site that he's looking for Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmorgan_cym Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 I was disappoint Fawley didn't just make theirs winter themed, fickering smokeboX fires, smoking and maybe flicking devils under the water cranes. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 For what it’s worth I’ve enjoyed watching it so far even if some of the layouts didn’t interest me. Hope there is another series 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEAMYAKIMA Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 I was disappoint Fawley didn't just make theirs winter themed, fickering smokeboX fires, smoking and maybe flicking devils under the water cranes. To clarify my position with reference to my previous post where I said that 'standard British OO layouts' tend to bore me unless the 'stand out' - well to give you an example : if the Fawley layout had the features listed above then the Fawley layout would stand out for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExplosiveCookie Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 (edited) On the topic of the rules, as the dynamos pointed out they started out very differently to when we actually got to Fawley. One ground rule was no fiddle yards - this was also ambiguous to what constituted a fiddle yard - but this was later revoked, after we (the railway children) had already committed to a roundy roundy design. I reckon if we could have changed the design we would have been a tad more traditional in having a backscene and simple fiddle yard. Edited October 27, 2018 by ExplosiveCookie 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted October 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 27, 2018 Firstly the show is not aimed at railway modellers in particular, but the general viewing public who have certain set expectations. I do agree with that, it's important to remember that what interests non-modelling punters at shows is, in many cases, not what interests 'serious' modellers. But that's fine and the main thing is to keep attracting new people to the hobby, who can then progress their personal interests in whatever direction they choose - OO roundy-roundies or P4 branch lines or sci-fi layouts with space ships landing or dinosaurs and other pre-historic stuff or P4 dinosaurs with pre-historic modellers etc. etc. After that the vast majority of British railway modellers have a very set view about the hobby and the winner would sit very well with those who buy the bulk of RTR items (funding the hobby) And I, for one, being a bit of a prehistoric traditionalist, was glad that Castle and team won last night, as I thought they had the highest standard of modelling on display, plus the overall layout was superb (absolute, utter, top respect for including point rodding, by the way and the moving water cranes were ingenious - never seen that done before, ever!). 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Oh Mr. Porter! Posted October 27, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2018 Hullo! Another Railway child (or Toddler Modeller) here! As Captain Luke (ExplosiveCookie) has mentioned before, we originally wanted to make something much more traditional. Our first plan, I believe, was actually a slightly rejigged version of a station on the Garstang & Knot-end Railway. This fell to the wayside when the theme was revealed to us, however, so we considered making a wintry steelworks scene instead. This didn't go down too well with the TV folk for one reason or another and we eventually ended up with a plan for something that would've made a nice train set for kids (if pulled off). At the end of the day, it was all great fun to make - even if it was very stressful at times! I'd also like to mention that both the Diesel Dynamos and the Fawley Fliers were not only great modellers but were very encouraging, helpful and - above all - very very funny! 23 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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