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Finally the frame work is complete, now for the boards and a clean up. I know I have over engineered the framework but everything has to be robust as this is a dual purpose space and the legs need to be able to take a little abuse from visitors especially when lofting out and moving around cages and fish tanks. As mentioned before the flooring has been reinforced and somewhat leveled as well. 

 

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Even though it has taken me much longer than hoped it certainly has been well worth it and is a very nice space to use for hobbying and storage. Really looking forward to being able to make a considered start on the track laying but one step at a time.

 

Pictures do not really show the structure in a good light, especially with the mess around the floor but it is a very decent base to work from.

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Hi Matt,

 

Nice job! I’m going to push the follow thread button thingy...

 

We are a bit busy preparing one of the GMRC layouts at Fawley as a show layout and looking after 12”:1’ scale trains as well as a whole heap of other life related stuff so I haven’t be able to post on RMWEB much recently but I will enjoy seeing this one progress! I’ll commemt when I can.

 

All the best,

 

Castle

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Hi Matt, just catching up with this. I can see you're going to be using a good deal of that underlay :D

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3 hours ago, Mikkel said:

Hi Matt, just catching up with this. I can see you're going to be using a good deal of that underlay https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/emoticons/default_biggrin.png

Yes Sir I sure am. Still researching thought I had decided but had not seen your reply now exploring another route.

 

On 28/01/2019 at 16:11, Castle said:

Hi Matt,

 

Nice job! I’m going to push the follow thread button thingy...

 

We are a bit busy preparing one of the GMRC layouts at Fawley as a show layout and looking after 12”:1’ scale trains as well as a whole heap of other life related stuff so I haven’t be able to post on RMWEB much recently but I will enjoy seeing this one progress! I’ll commemt when I can.

 

All the best,

 

Castle

Thank you, looking forward to your input. I may have a little surprise for you in the distant future of this layout................keep watching!

 

All framework has now been sanded and the entire space has been cleaned, phew what a mess! Just need to get the boards cut to fit and decide on the covering to use if any prior to track laying.

 

Incidentally; all the frames are non-standard sizing as I have seemingly designed and built everything back-to-front. I should have looked at my total space and designed framework and boards to fit this to the standard dimensions as purchased boards would allow. Then fit my chosen track plan into that space, compromising where necessary rather than deciding on the track plan and building to suit this.

Would have been a lot quicker and easier with out the need to carefully think about how to cut timber and boards to reduce waste and maximise usable area.  

Well this is the one and only layout I have planned so hopefully this will help someone else in the future when they are planning a layout build.

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I think I'd better post so the star appears on you thread it will save me missing anything I will at some stage sort these new things out on here to make life easier.

 

I was lucky a few years ago I got a job off the local council to put up Neighbourhood Watch signs, I had to wrap the lamp post with self adhesive foam first them clamp the sign on with steel strapping, there were many off cuts of the foam left over enough to do over 60 yards of track it saved me buy it 

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On 05/02/2019 at 15:12, 81C said:

 

 I had to wrap the lamp post with self adhesive foam first them clamp the sign on with steel strapping, there were many off cuts of the foam left over enough to do over 60 yards of track it saved me buy it 

 

Hi 81C, thank you. Would be really good to hear your opinion about the use of the foam. Any good? What the running like for the locos? etc Thank you for your input anything and everything is appreciated here.

I am still confuddled about what to use. I have used cork in the past but am tempted with the potential for acoustic reduction qualities of the foam but how does this take painting? So many questions!

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Hi Matt the loco's run fine on it and there is room for adjustment prior to ballasting I used paper thin Plasticard for any packing and just enough pins to hold the track in place do check the

track for flat joints and the points are not bowed then after ballasting and when you have cleaned up just to make sure nothing has moved and check all the joints and points again.

 

I think the only thing I could mention about the foam which was a bit wider than the jolly old peco track was I cut it back tight to the sleepers with a scalpel to give the ballast a tidier shoulder,

the foam soaks up the adhesive but it did help spraying with track colour paint both the track and foam prior to ballasting it sealed the foam, as for noise it's quieter than cork till you put the

ballast down.  

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I have spent many an hour thinking, rethinking on  the subject of baseboard covering ....or not. Made a decision then some more (very helpful) information was gained so decided to re-evaluate once again and came up with another decision but a final one!

I will not bore you all with the thought process and decision making. The short of it is why do I want/need to top the boards anyway? To me it comes down to the transmission of sound through the boards, increasing the volume as well as cause a lot of disruption in rooms below. So a very quick test with some wagons and a full length straight run proved I needed to try something at least. I have opted for high density foam used for acoustic flooring underlay. Fingers crossed and eyes tightly shut.

I have also been exploring the need for a larger shed scene 'off stage'. Again I want to use a real location but only for inspiration this time. So basing loosely on part of the track diagram and building positions but not actual buildings so I can use modeler's licence and have some freelance fun one side whilst being completely controlled and regimented the other side. Here's a little snippet of what track diagram I intend on using and keeping relatively local to my chosen location;

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I am positive this will be very familiar to most.

 

A big thank you to everyone for their suggestions, help and input regarding the underlay thingy it really has taken me about 8 weeks to make a calculated decision on this one, especially as this is a one time build I must get all the major structural things right first time. :drinks: 

Things will take a much longer time on some aspects as I am not skilled in a lot of these areas or have knowledge of so I am having to teach myself a lot of new tricks and skills. This is probably the best thing about the hobby and means that everyone can gain something from it no matter what previous knowledge or skills set they bring. 

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Finally I am there. I now have a decent foundation to start modelling. Well I need to add surrounding back for distant backscene and to board the central chimney stack (not shown);

 

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The need for 'The town Arches' to be construct is high to ensure a full roundy roundy. Turn table has already been positioned, cut and inserted. Apologies for the pictures I don't seem to be able to get decent angles.

 

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It has been some time now but the boards are sanded and any lifts have been secured. The rolls of foam have arrived as too has spring. That along with the beast from the west have been a distraction from any further physical progress. I will need to get hold of something suitable for the back-scene and fix this to the boards before laying any of the foam. 

 

The fight with the beast from the west has stalled as I would like a pair of brass whistles rather than the whitemetal metal ones supplied and appropriate fire irons. My local show is just two weeks away and they have excellent trade support so will wait and see what I can get. Hopefully this will provide me with the opportunity to complete it. It has taught me something at least and that is to stick with 4mm/OO, much more fun in my opinion.

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As previously mentioned the beast from the West has been a baseboard build stall but she is looking rather nice, if I do say so myself. Shame the rivet detailing on the lamp brackets and fireirons hooks do not show up well. Pictures are really for me to see if anything missed or is wonky but nice to see a 'naked' build before painting. The cab, roof, boiler and footplate are all separate from each other and only placed for the picture. This is to allowing easier painting and less masking. The back head is not attached as this has been put together and painted separately so not to over spray it when it comes to the body.

The build has been challenging as I am unversed in many areas of locomotives so again a lot of research (unnecessary for most) has gone into what is what and where does it go etc. I have a couple of detailing parts to add to the tank and the footplate but in essence she is ready for priming and the paint shop. Having made the sprung buffers separately (from parts not my own hand) they too need to be taken apart and the buffer body attached to the beam before priming etc.

Chassis obviously needs completing but that is in hand, this one had no instructions so making it up as I go along. A tried and tested method of working for me along with plenty of resource to back up. Hopefully she will become a lovely model although I do not have nor the intention to have any use for O gauge stock, just a nice model - potentially for sale in the future.

 

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Edit: Photos of your own work are great instantly I see I have forgotten to add the rivets detailing to the fireiron hooks! :excl::jester::excl:  Muppet! Will be corrected prior to priming.

 

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Hi Matt, that looks like an excellent build. A proper beast :)

 

Sadly the lack of rivets on the fire iron hooks completely ruins the model. :jester:

 

Only joking, I think that's a case of "only the builder notices".

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Thanks Mikkel appreciate it. I'll see what it looks like when the tools arrive. They should really hide any missing rivets but annoying as I was minded to included them. Maybe on some OO models to come, lol, or maybe not. It was only because it will be a cased display model for myself, at least for the immediate future. I see you are back on your your stables, fantastic modelling and research as always. 

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Sadly not much time for modelling recently what spring springing plenty of outside things that can not wait.

 

On a very positive note work has been relentless and full on ;), explanation to follow..................................................

 

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When times are slow get out the kits!!!! Plus a little bit more on the beast.

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