lindi Posted October 23, 2018 Author Share Posted October 23, 2018 (edited) I don't think this has had a major effect on the Farish products. The previously planned products for Jan/Feb have been rescheduled. I have been posting this list monthly on another forum for the last six+ months and nothing has changed much. Often a model slips by a month or so, but nothing out of the ordinary has happened since the factory closure was announced and Kader had to move production This is the current list form Bachmann published on the 19th October 2018 (the day after I posted the previous list). I decided not to update the original as not much had changed Dec 18 371-014 Class 08 08834 BR Railfreight Distribution £99.95 Dec 18 371-020A Class 08 13050 BR Black Early Emblem £99.95 Mar 19 370-090 North Eastern Freight £199.95 Mar 19 371-742 Western Pullman 6-Car Unit Grey/Blue £379.95 Mar 19 373-602C 46T VGA Sliding Wall Van BR Railfreight Distribution £18.95 Mar 19 373-603 46T RBA Sliding Wall Van DB Cargo £18.95 Mar 19 373-775C 45 Tonne glw TTA Tank Wagon 'BP' Green £22.95 Mar 19 373-781 45 Ton glw TTA Tank Wagon Weed Killing Train £22.95 Mar 19 374-631A SR 50' Bogie B Luggage Van BR (SR) Green £29.95 Mar 19 374-633 SR 50' Bogie B Luggage Van BR Departmental £29.95 Mar 19 374-816A BR Mk1 FO First Open Maroon £34.95 Mar 19 374-819A BR Mk1 FO First Open Blue & Grey £34.95 Mar 19 374-889 50ft Ex-LMS Full Brake Coach BR Maroon £29.95 Mar 19 374-890 50ft Ex-LMS Full Brake Coach BR Blue Weathered £33.95 Mar 19 377-353A Intermodal Bogie Wagons 45ft Containers 'Malcolm Logistics' £79.95 Mar 19 377-368 Intermodal Bogie Wagons with 45ft Containers 'ASDA' £79.95 Mar 19 377-500B 3 Plank Wagon 'I.C.I. Buxton Lime' £15.95 Mar 19 377-506 3 Plank Wagon 'Easter Iron Mines' £15.95 Mar 19 377-603A YAA 'Brill' Bogie Bolster Wagon BR Departmental with Load £30.95 Mar 19 377-604 80 Tonne glw BDA Bogie Bolster Wagon BR Railfreight Distribution Metals Sector with Load £30.95 Mar 19 377-625B 12 Ton BR Plywood Fruit Van BR Bauxite (Early) £16.95 Mar 19 377-628B 12 Ton BR Ventilated Van Plywood Doors BR Bauxite (Late) Weathered £16.95 Mar 19 377-850A SR 25 Ton 'Pill Box'Brake Van SR Brown White Roof £23.95 Mar 19 377-854A SR 25 Ton 'Pill Box' Brake Van BR Bauxite (Early) £23.95 Mar 19 379-200 Platforms (x4) £12.95 May 19 374-060D BR Mk1 SK Second Corridor Crimson & Cream £34.95 May 19 374-064C BR Mk1 SK Second Corridor Chocolate & Cream £34.95 May 19 374-065 BR Mk1 SK Second Corridor Sealink £34.95 May 19 374-066 BR Mk1 SK Second Corridor BR Blue & Grey with ScotRail Branding Weathered £39.95 May 19 374-082A BR Mk1 BCK Brake Second Corridor Chocolate & Cream £34.95 May 19 374-084B BR Mk1 BCK Brake Corridor Composite Maroon £34.95 May 19 374-085B BR Mk1 BCK Brake Corridor Composite Blue & Grey £34.95 May 19 374-163A BR Mk1 FK First Corridor Chocolate & Cream £34.95 May 19 374-189C BR Mk1 BSK Brake Second Corridor Chocolate & Cream £34.95 May 19 374-196 BR Mk1 BSK Brake Second Corridor Sealink £34.95 May 19 374-197 BR Mk1 BSK Brake Second Corridor BR Blue & Grey with ScotRail Branding Weathered £39.95 May 19 374-212 BR Mk1 SP Pullman Second Parlour Car 'Car 352' Umber & Cream - Grey Roof £42.95 May 19 374-213 BR Mk1 SP Pullman Second Parlour Car '99347' WCRC £42.95 May 19 374-214 BR Mk1 SP Pullman Second Parlour Car '99352' WCRC £42.95 Jun 19 370-160 Castle Pullman Set Digital Sound £374.95 Jun 19 370-375 Avro Vulcan XH558 Collectors Pack £189.95 Jun 19 371-658 Class 57/3 57313 West Coast Railways £134.95 Jun 19 371-659 Class 57/3 57315 Arriva Trains Wales (Trenau Arriva Cymru) £134.95 Jun 19 371-660 Class 57/6 57603 'Tintagel Castle' GWR £134.95 Jun 19 372-425A WD Austerity Class 2-8-0 90441 BR Black Early Emblem Weathered £169.95 Jun 19 372-428 WD Austerity Class 2-8-0 3085 LNER Black £164.95 Jun 19 372-429 WD Austerity 2-8-0 79250 'Major-General Mc Mullen' LMR Blue £169.95 Jun 19 372-775 C Class 0-6-0 271 SECR Plain Green £149.95 Jun 19 372-776 C Class 0-6-0 1294 Southern Railway Black £134.95 Jun 19 372-777 C Class 0-6-0 31227 BR Black Early Emblem £134.95 Jun 19 374-202 BR Mk1 FP Pullman First Parlour Car 'Ruby' Umber & Cream-Grey Roof £42.95 Jun 19 374-222 BR Mk1 FK Pullman First Kitchen Car 'Thrush' Umber & Cream-Grey Roof £42.95 Jun 19 374-232 BR Mk1 SK Pullman Second Kitchen Car 'Car 343' Umber & Cream-Grey Roof £42.95 Jun 19 374-910 SE&CR 60' Birdcage Stock 3 Coach Pack SE&CR Wellington Brown £149.95 Jun 19 374-911 SE&CR 60' Birdcage Stock 3 Coach Pack Southern Railway Olive Green £149.95 Jun 19 374-912 SE&CR 60' Birdcage Stock 3 Coach Pack BR Crimson £149.95 Jun 19 377-527C 20 Ton Brake Van LNER Oxide £22.95 Jun 19 377-535A 20 Ton Brake Van BR Railfreight £23.95 Jul 19 373-560 100 Ton TEA Bogie Tank Wagon 'ESSO' £39.95 Jul 19 373-561 100 Ton TEA Bogie Tank Wagon 'BP' Green £39.95 Jul 19 373-562 100 Ton TEA Bogie Tank Wagon 'Gulf' Black Weathered £42.95 Aug 19 376-200 Thompson 1st Class Corridor LNER Teak £39.95 Aug 19 376-201 Thompson 1st Class Corridor BR Crimson & Cream £39.95 Aug 19 376-225 Thompson Composite Corridor LNER Teak £39.95 Aug 19 376-226 Thompson Composite Corridor BR Crimson & Cream £39.95 Aug 19 376-250 Thompson 3rd Class Corridor LNER Teak £39.95 Aug 19 376-251 Thompson 3rd Class Corridor BR Crimson & Cream £39.95 Aug 19 376-275 Thompson 3rd Class Brake Corridor LNER Teak £39.95 Aug 19 376-276 Thompson 3rd Class Brake Corridor BR Crimson & Cream £39.95 Sep 19 371-032A Class 20 20048 BR Blue Cabside Double Arrow Indicator Discs £124.95 Sep 19 371-034A Class 20 20156 BR Railfreight Red Stripe £124.95 Sep 19 371-038 Class 20 D8158 BR Green Headcode Box Small Yellow Panel £124.95 Sep 19 371-640 Class 70 70015 Freightliner (Air Intake Modifications) £149.95 Sep 19 371-641 Class 70 70805 Colas (Air Intake Modifications) £149.95 Sep 19 373-627D 31 Ton OBA Open Wagon High Ends Plasmor Blockfreight £18.95 Sep 19 373-630 31 Ton OBA Open Wagon High Ends BR Railfreight Distribution £18.95 Sep 19 377-429 12 Ton Southern Planked Ventilated Van BR Bauxite £16.95 Sep 19 377-430 12 Ton Southern 2+2 Planked Ventilated Van SR Brown £16.95 Sep 19 377-431 12 Ton Southern 2+2 Planked Ventilated Van LMS Grey £16.95 The only omission from this list that was on the OP is the Class 170 DMU have dropped off the list A couple more Pullman coaches have been added for delivery in June 2019 This list is provided by Bachmann for guidance and is subject to change Edited October 23, 2018 by lindi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lindi Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 couple more Pullman coaches have been added for delivery in June 2019 Sorry. Just realised that these were originally due in October 2018 this year and have slipped to June 2019 I notice all three of the 2a FKs are missing from that updated list. They are all now listed as TBA by Bachmann. It could be that they missed there production slot along with the Pullmans mentioned above Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted October 24, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 24, 2018 That info now matches that sent out by retailers in respect of the Birdcages & C Class. On the plus side at least the coaches arrive at the same time as the locos! Tom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fezza Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 31s and 47s were the backbone of the network in many areas for decades and a sure-fire seller - yet these seem to have fallen off the schedule completely. For me, a very odd set of priorities. The pre-grouping stuff may be nice, but how many people actually model this period in N gauge? I can't remember when I last saw an N gauge layout of this period at an exhibition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarriageShed Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 More than you'd probably think, with Gareth Collier being one of the leaders in this field. I model the grouping period but in 1929/1930, which means that most of my stock needs top be pre-grouping. I'm going to have to get the Class C loco in Bulleid black and have it lined so that it matches the early SR goods livery. At least it doesn't need to be repainted into Maunsell green! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin1985 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 31s and 47s were the backbone of the network in many areas for decades and a sure-fire seller - yet these seem to have fallen off the schedule completely. For me, a very odd set of priorities. The pre-grouping stuff may be nice, but how many people actually model this period in N gauge? I can't remember when I last saw an N gauge layout of this period at an exhibition. I'm sure Farish would prefer things turn up on schedule too. But for the host of reasons discussed here and other threads, such as factory moves, extreme weather, and shipping vagaries, its almost certainly out of their control. We need to remember that all UK "manufacturers" are essentially just customers of the Chinese factories, who seem to have the stronger hand in negotiations. As I understand it, Bachmann Europe (Farish) have to bid for production slots competitively against other parts of the Kader empire. If Bachmann USA put in a bid for a bigger, more profitable, batch of their products, then its "sorry Bachmann Europe, you've moved down the pecking order". In a sense Bachmann Europe/Farish are actually at a disadvantage compared to smaller brands, because as part of Kader, they are almost certainly tied to using Kader's factories. RevolutioN have just moved some projects between manufacturers, e.g. the VEA vans to the new "Sonic Models" and the cl.321 has been moved from Rapido to an unnamed alternative manufacturer (perhaps also Sonic?). Farish don't have any choice but to sit and wait for Kader. On pre-group, there might not be many "serious" layouts of pre-group in N gauge (probably more in 2mmFS, most using N gauge stock as and where appropriate) but Dapol certainly shifted a LOT of batches of Terriers in LBSCR Stroudley livery - they kept making more named variants for ages - so they must have been selling. There has been quite a surge in pre-group models in OO, and most seem to have sold like hotcakes - but again almost certainly as collectors items, or "I want one" models, because they're pretty! Its all about money in the till at the end of the day - not necessarily about giving us everything we want to make convincing models of a certain time and place! The two overlap to a certain extent, but not totally. Justin 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted October 24, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) On pre-group, there might not be many "serious" layouts of pre-group in N gauge (probably more in 2mmFS, most using N gauge stock as and where appropriate) but Dapol certainly shifted a LOT of batches of Terriers in LBSCR Stroudley livery - they kept making more named variants for ages - so they must have been selling. There has been quite a surge in pre-group models in OO, and most seem to have sold like hotcakes - but again almost certainly as collectors items, or "I want one" models, because they're pretty! I was just typing that I suspect many Birdcages & C Class may well find themselves converted to 2mm FS as pre-grouping seems to be more prevalent amongst finescale modellers. With the C Class not requiring complex valve gear replaced, this combination could well be a relatively quick and easy way of having a complete train in finescale if the Association produces a similar conversion kit to the 3F/4F conversions. There are also preserved examples of both, so in addition to being pre-grouping they could also be justified on any layouts with a preservation theme, of which there seem to be an increasing number. Tom. Edited October 24, 2018 by TomE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 31s and 47s were the backbone of the network in many areas for decades and a sure-fire seller - yet these seem to have fallen off the schedule completely. For me, a very odd set of priorities. The pre-grouping stuff may be nice, but how many people actually model this period in N gauge? I can't remember when I last saw an N gauge layout of this period at an exhibition. It's probably not so much who/how many model particular eras and number of layouts built/exhibited, but what sells well. Apparently the better selling products are those in bright colourful liveries - which is the pre-grouping and contemporary modern eras. Other periods such as BR black steam and corporate green/blue diesels has somewhat stagnated. Still popular maybe, but not such fast growth sectors. G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted October 24, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 24, 2018 So with the missing in action FK's (and no response to my query to Bachmann by the way although I suspect my email may have been lost as I had trouble with the silly I Am Not A Robot thing!) is it a case of they were expected imminently and when the container arrived they were not in it? Expected dates being pushed back for items months or years away I can understand but this I just peculiar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted October 24, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 24, 2018 Just got a nice email back from Bachmann. It would seem the Mk2a FKs have become a victim of the factory upheaval and have become indefinitely delayed. Presumably this will also affect the next N scale Collectors Club model which is based on the same tooling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Roy L S Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 It's probably not so much who/how many model particular eras and number of layouts built/exhibited, but what sells well. Apparently the better selling products are those in bright colourful liveries - which is the pre-grouping and contemporary modern eras. Other periods such as BR black steam and corporate green/blue diesels has somewhat stagnated. Still popular maybe, but not such fast growth sectors. G Only one of the three C Class locos to be released is in ornate SECR livery, the others are in a rather more utilitarian black (LNER and BR). The ornate livery is certainly eye-catching and so is the premium price demanded for that specific loco! It will certainly appeal to collectors, but I don't think there really is a huge or sustainable market for models in pre-grouping generally, the big money still lies in the later eras. A quick scope down the schedule reveals many BR transition models planned on the above list (significantly more than other categories including modern), and this, alongside the substantial range for this era already available probably says much more about where the big market still lies - certainly not one that is stagnating, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Only one of the three C Class locos to be released is in ornate SECR livery, the others are in a rather more utilitarian black (LNER and BR). The ornate livery is certainly eye-catching and so is the premium price demanded for that specific loco! It will certainly appeal to collectors, but I don't think there really is a huge or sustainable market for models in pre-grouping generally, the big money still lies in the later eras. A quick scope down the schedule reveals many BR transition models planned on the above list (significantly more than other categories including modern), and this, alongside the substantial range for this era already available probably says much more about where the big market still lies - certainly not one that is stagnating, Apparently the fastest selling and growth sectors are the colourful livery ones, namely pre-grouping and contemporary modern. It would make sense for them to target those sectors which are likely to provide quick returns and not have stock sitting around for ages. Don't forget that their experience is in both N and OO markets and their venture in to N pre-grouping is relatively new (but following OO) and also somewhat hamstrung by their production difficulties (see relevant thread). Your assertion is based on what you 'think' while I'm reporting what I was told by Bachmann. And somehow I doubt 'big money' lies with any sector of N gauge ATM regardless of its era. G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy L S Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 (edited) Apparently the fastest selling and growth sectors are the colourful livery ones, namely pre-grouping and contemporary modern. It would make sense for them to target those sectors which are likely to provide quick returns and not have stock sitting around for ages. Don't forget that their experience is in both N and OO markets and their venture in to N pre-grouping is relatively new (but following OO) and also somewhat hamstrung by their production difficulties (see relevant thread). Your assertion is based on what you 'think' while I'm reporting what I was told by Bachmann. And somehow I doubt 'big money' lies with any sector of N gauge ATM regardless of its era. G With all due respect Grahame, not what I think, it is a statement of fact. Tot up the releases due in the various eras for yourself. You make a lot of "claims" about what Bachmann have "said" but never back it up with any hard facts at all - who said it and when? I seem to recall you made some claim that Bachmann said the N 4CEP was one of their fastest selling models ever, yet more recently others with very credible credentials have said Bachmann advised that it crashed and burned so badly that they would not entertain another such 3 rail EMU model. The giveaway prices they ended up being sold at certainly supports the second version of events rather than yours. I accept there are massive production difficulties at present and this is affecting all models, but in the pipeline beyond those announced above are more transition and blue era models, In fact I count two more brand new steam locos as including a sound fitted 8F plus a retooled sound enabled N Class, then sound enabled 31 and 47 in the earlier liveries, the last three requiring chassis retooling whereas the batch of releases coming through in the next 12 months does not. Where I do have to agree with you, notwithstanding my above comments, is that in a market where investment has to be carefully prioritised, British N is no longer such a "go to" choice for investment, which is why I personally am grateful that the likes of RevolutioN are now well established and supporting models across all eras. Regards Roy Edited October 25, 2018 by Roy L S 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1023 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 With all due respect Grahame, not what I think, it is a statement of fact. Tot up the releases due in the various eras for yourself. You make a lot of "claims" about what Bachmann have "said" but never back it up with any hard facts at all - who said it and when? I seem to recall you made some claim that Bachmann said the N 4CEP was one of their fastest selling models ever, yet more recently others with very credible credentials have said Bachmann advised that it crashed and burned so badly that they would not entertain another such 3 rail EMU model. The giveaway prices they ended up being sold at certainly supports the second version of events rather than yours. If this is true I find it very disappointing that Bachmann have formed this attitude, frankly they have never backed up the N gauge 4CEP in the same way they did in OO. In OO gauge Bachmann announced the 2EPB even before the 4CEP was released and have/are followed/ing it up with MLV, HAP & BEP (not to mention Kernow's SR units). Maybe if they had shown the same commitment to the SR EMUs in N gauge as they have in OO it may have been more of a success. It should be also said that other than the initial runs of the OO 4CEP, follow up runs have been subject to heavy discounting by retailers, of course the first runs of the OO 4CEP also came about prior to Bachmanns annual price increases so could be had remarkably cheaply which may have inflated sales. I have reached the point where I am now considering walking away from N gauge as I am unable to achieve what I want to do without any further SR EMUs, something I can do easily in OO. I wouldn't expect Bachmann to replicate everything in N gauge that they have done in OO, but certainly a N gauge 2EPB (or preferably for me 2HAP) would help. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul80 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Just noticed what they are asking for their birdcage stock £150 for 3. It was not that long ago Farish coaches were close to £10 each now they are asking £50 each Are they trying to kill the hobby, once the final salary guys have passed no one will be able to afford these items. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy L S Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 The going rate (RRP) for most Farish coaches is in the £35 to £45 bracket now, they haven't been £10 a pop for a good number of years. There is no question, having seen them close up that the Birdcage Stock is quite exquisite, but also rather niche, and that probably explains the price. The same is true of other coaching stock, beautifully detailed, and labour intensive to produce with all those parts hence the cost. Could some kind of "Design Clever" be more successfully applied in N to reduce assembly cost without compromising too much on detail and/or quality? Maybe it will come to a point where that is explored, but I wouldn't even then expect drastic price reductions. Railway modelling in general and N in particular has never been a cheap hobby, there were a few years where it became cheaper, but that was never sustainable and they are now well and truly over. You can still find secondhand bargains, and £10 coaches are not unheard of on places like eBay, just not the current "state of the art" ones. Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977joey Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Just noticed what they are asking for their birdcage stock £150 for 3. It was not that long ago Farish coaches were close to £10 each now they are asking £50 each Are they trying to kill the hobby, once the final salary guys have passed no one will be able to afford these items. My thoughts exactly regarding the Mark 2f's. I have 2 rakes on order which have gone up twice since as we are still awaiting them...god only knows how much they will be when they finally reach the retailers & if I'll be able to justify the price. Just gutted they haven't been produced the same time as the OO coaches before the issues at the factory in china. Cheers, Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffAlan Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 No J72! I've cancelled my pre-orders for the two I wanted. At my age IF they ever come out I'll be to feeble to open the boxes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Davexoc Posted October 28, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 28, 2018 The going rate (RRP) for most Farish coaches is in the £35 to £45 bracket now, they haven't been £10 a pop for a good number of years. There is no question, having seen them close up that the Birdcage Stock is quite exquisite, but also rather niche, and that probably explains the price. The same is true of other coaching stock, beautifully detailed, and labour intensive to produce with all those parts hence the cost. Could some kind of "Design Clever" be more successfully applied in N to reduce assembly cost without compromising too much on detail and/or quality? Maybe it will come to a point where that is explored, but I wouldn't even then expect drastic price reductions. Railway modelling in general and N in particular has never been a cheap hobby, there were a few years where it became cheaper, but that was never sustainable and they are now well and truly over. You can still find secondhand bargains, and £10 coaches are not unheard of on places like eBay, just not the current "state of the art" ones. Roy We've been down the design clever thing before, and the demand is for quality detailed models, hence the success of Revolution and Accurascale. Enough said.... Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted October 28, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 28, 2018 The issue of pricing has been discussed ad infinitum here and elsewhere and they are only going one way. In return however we have some of the most highly detailed and accurate models N Gauge has ever seen. And is it not fair for Bachmann to charge what the models are worth having made the levels of investment & improvement they have since taking over Farish? What’s of more concern at the moment is the difficulty in giving Bachmann any money at all. I appreciate the production issues they’ve experienced recently are totally outside of their control, but they need get these settled sooner rather than later and start giving us the models to buy. Tom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindi Posted October 28, 2018 Author Share Posted October 28, 2018 (edited) What’s of more concern at the moment is the difficulty in giving Bachmann any money at all. I appreciate the production issues they’ve experienced recently are totally outside of their control, but they need get these settled sooner rather than later and start giving us the models to buy. Tom. The production issues have had minimal impact on N gauge. Some production dates have slipped but there planned releases for the next 12 months is still basically the same models. Only a rerun of some MK1's have been removed and the Class 170's. Edited October 28, 2018 by lindi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul80 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 I do wonder what most users would actually want, not just members here, remember i am only talking rolling stock. Do they demand high priced high detailed models or less detailed not so high priced rolling stock. I know I am not too fussed about the undertake detail and am quite happy running a nice long rake of 10 year old wagons, and am very wary that the prices now being asked for the higher detailed models some people ask for do put off people entering this hobby, a hobby that prices out anyone getting interested is not going to be a hobby for long. Ok i know for some price is no object, but for many it still is. I wonder if there is a case for doing what Hornby do with their Railroad range, use the latest moulds to produce high detail for those who demand it and run a lesser detailed less expensive range using the old moulds that were paid for years ago. Not only would it make starting the the hobby a little less expensive,but they might even find that the majority of their customers don't actually want super detailed rolling stock. Remember it was only about 10 years ago when Farish Mk1 coaches were well under £20 each, now well over £40, wages have not doubled in the last 10 years so justifying current prices for many will be getting harder and harder. I know for many it's an addiction and some would rather buy a new loco than pay the mortgage but it's still something that should be looked at if Bachmann/Farish still want to be in this business in 10 to 20 years time. I know most of us probably won't be here in 20 years so why worry about the future, but it would be nice to think there was a future, as it's going I seriously doubt it has one. Sorry won't say anymore on the subject. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin1985 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Remember it was only about 10 years ago when Farish Mk1 coaches were well under £20 each, now well over £40, wages have not doubled in the last 10 years so justifying current prices for many will be getting harder and harder. Sorry to interrupt your rant, but even the official Farish RRP for Mk1s is £35, and there seems to be no problem at all finding new Mk1s in stock at £25-26. With roughly 3% average inflation over the last 10 years, plus the continued weakness of the GBP compared to the era when a made in China Farish coach was going for £12-15, thats pretty much exactly what you'd expect to pay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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