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This is my first post on RMweb so please go easy on me  :beee:

 

As a child I had 6 or 7 LNER locos but as I went through my teen years I lost interested and didn't have time for the hobby, in the last 2 years I have got back into it and have now managed to collect 23 LNER Loco's several coach and wagon rakes to. 

 

I have the Hornby 80th Anniversary silver jubilee set and flatly refuse to accept the Hornby LMS attempt at the Silver Jubilee coach's as they are so wrong, but in order to buy a set I would need to remortgage the house. Same goes for the Coronation coach's they are both so expensive. 

 

I managed to get a copy of the schematics for both sets and soon realised the old Triang Thompson coach's had similar windows to both sets. This got me thinking, could I make both sets on a budget?

 

CORONATION COACH PROJECT

 

1. Measure out and mark where you need to cut:

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2. Score the coach:

 

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3. Cut the base which slots into the chassis to allow you to break the coach apart:

 

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4. Check to make sure you have all the parts you need and sand the ends down:

 

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5. Glue together:

 

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6. Fill all the joins:

 

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7. Sand down smooth:

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8. Paint with primer to highlight any imperfections: 

 

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9. Cut the chassis and roof to the correct length, create a new coach end and test fit:

 

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10. Cut the streamlined chassis sides from plasticard and stick in place:

 

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11. Paint & Apply decals:

 

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Below is the finished product:

 

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2 down, 6 coach's to go plus the observation car which I have not quite worked out how to make yet  :scratchhead:

 

SILVER JUBILEE PROJECT

 

I have used the same method to make the Silver Jubilee coach's however I have also added plasticard strips around the windows:

 

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The finished product:

 

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I am 90% of the way through making the triplet which will leave just one more pair to complete. 

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Interesting Tom unfortunately your photos are not posting.

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For the image above I see a page like this below. Yours says thumbs which is where I think you have slipped up along the way.

 

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Any hel I can be just shout.

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Ade

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Hi Ade, 

 

I think I have managed to sort it in a fashion :(

 

I have never been successful in posting photos to forums in the past, think its one of the reasons I have stayed away from them for so long.

 

Thanks for the heads up. 

 

Tom 

Interesting Tom unfortunately your photos are not posting.
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For the image above I see a page like this below. Yours says thumbs which is where I think you have slipped up along the way.

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Any hel I can be just shout.
Cheers
Ade

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Congratulations,  looks like a very successful project and an interesting and innovative use of a fairly unlikely source of parts.  I know these sets quite well having produced the injection moulds for the (now no longer available) Mailcoach plastic kits in the 1980s.  I produced a kit for the observation car but have not seen one of these (even on eBay) for years. One suggestion if you are going to build your own. For a pre production mock up we hand made the end around a section cut from the clear plastic packaging of an Easter egg.  Interestingly the "modular" approach you have taken for the sides is similar to what I now use on the O gauge kits that I still make. A couple of O gauge modellers have built similar sets from my Tourist stock or Thompson modules which is slightly easier as the bits come "pre cut up".

 

best wishes,

 

Ian

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Thanks Ian, I have spent many hours looking at your coachs. Its such a shame they are no longer available as I think they would still sell well. 

 

I like your idea for the curved roof on the observation car, although I can't remember the last time a saw an easter egg with a plastic insert, the world has gone recycling mad

 

Congratulations,  looks like a very successful project and an interesting and innovative use of a fairly unlikely source of parts.  I know these sets quite well having produced the injection moulds for the (now no longer available) Mailcoach plastic kits in the 1980s.  I produced a kit for the observation car but have not seen one of these (even on eBay) for years. One suggestion if you are going to build your own. For a pre production mock up we hand made the end around a section cut from the clear plastic packaging of an Easter egg.  Interestingly the "modular" approach you have taken for the sides is similar to what I now use on the O gauge kits that I still make. A couple of O gauge modellers have built similar sets from my Tourist stock or Thompson modules which is slightly easier as the bits come "pre cut up".

 

best wishes,

 

Ian

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Had you thought about trying to draw the observation car (or at least the tricky bits) up in CAD and then 3D print it? I was considering doing that for the end section of it but I managed to get a mailcoach kit so I used that instead.

 

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Wouldn't have a clue how to use CAD or a 3D Printer to be honest. 

 

I will get the roof shape as close as possible I think and then use filler and sand paper until I am happy with the shape of it :) 

 

Had you thought about trying to draw the observation car (or at least the tricky bits) up in CAD and then 3D print it? I was considering doing that for the end section of it but I managed to get a mailcoach kit so I used that instead.

 

Jamie

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Thanks for the info Dave, I started making the sides last night, hopefully get them finished tonight and the chassis cut to size. Im going to give the roof a go myself, nothing quite like old fashion filler and sanding to get the shape youre after :)

 

Check in the 3D Printing section of the forum. Simon Dawson (user id: rue-d-etropal) has just designed a 3D scratch aid model / body shell for the observation car.

 

Dave R.

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This is my first post on RMweb so please go easy on me  :beee:

 

As a child I had 6 or 7 LNER locos but as I went through my teen years I lost interested and didn't have time for the hobby, in the last 2 years I have got back into it and have now managed to collect 23 LNER Loco's several coach and wagon rakes to. 

 

I have the Hornby 80th Anniversary silver jubilee set and flatly refuse to accept the Hornby LMS attempt at the Silver Jubilee coach's as they are so wrong, but in order to buy a set I would need to remortgage the house. Same goes for the Coronation coach's they are both so expensive. 

 

I managed to get a copy of the schematics for both sets and soon realised the old Triang Thompson coach's had similar windows to both sets. This got me thinking, could I make both sets on a budget?

 

CORONATION COACH PROJECT

 

1. Measure out and mark where you need to cut:

attachicon.gif20181008_185725563_iOS.jpg

2. Score the coach:

 

attachicon.gif20181008_190303524_iOS.jpg

3. Cut the base which slots into the chassis to allow you to break the coach apart:

 

attachicon.gif20181008_191827461_iOS.jpg

4. Check to make sure you have all the parts you need and sand the ends down:

 

attachicon.gif20181008_192056003_iOS.jpg

5. Glue together:

 

attachicon.gif20181008_192800963_iOS.jpg

6. Fill all the joins:

 

attachicon.gif20181008_194441654_iOS.jpg

7. Sand down smooth:

attachicon.gif20181009_191511473_iOS.jpg

 

8. Paint with primer to highlight any imperfections: 

 

attachicon.gif20181009_191805124_iOS.jpg

9. Cut the chassis and roof to the correct length, create a new coach end and test fit:

 

attachicon.gif20181009_205740495_iOS.jpg

10. Cut the streamlined chassis sides from plasticard and stick in place:

 

attachicon.gif20181012_201825445_iOS.jpg

11. Paint & Apply decals:

 

attachicon.gif20181015_185741738_iOS.jpg

Below is the finished product:

 

attachicon.gif20181016_152126154_iOS.jpgattachicon.gif20181016_152236967_iOS.jpgattachicon.gif20181017_083424000_iOS.png

2 down, 6 coach's to go plus the observation car which I have not quite worked out how to make yet  :scratchhead:

 

SILVER JUBILEE PROJECT

 

I have used the same method to make the Silver Jubilee coach's however I have also added plasticard strips around the windows:

 

attachicon.gif20181017_195749191_iOS.jpg

The finished product:

 

attachicon.gif20181016_151931031_iOS.jpgattachicon.gif20181016_151949284_iOS.jpgattachicon.gif20181016_151949284_iOS.jpg

I am 90% of the way through making the triplet which will leave just one more pair to complete. 

Hi Tom

 

Lovely work. I am now tempted to do a tourist articulated pair. They would be more fitting for my layout.

 

I use the same filing a V where a cut is when I do my conversions of Tri-ang Mk1 in to EMUs and DMUs.

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Bit of an update, a lot of people have questioned how will I do the observation car so thought I would start work on it. 

 

Progress is slow but my head is buzzing with ideas and work arounds. Progress update below:

 

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I'm not 100% happy with the back of the coach at the moment. I think a few more hours work tonight and it should start to look better, hoping to get the basic shape of the curved roof done tonight, if my thumbs can take it, stabbed myself in both of them last night with a scalpel :) 

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I'm not 100% happy with the back of the coach at the moment. I think a few more hours work tonight and it should start to look better, hoping to get the basic shape of the curved roof done tonight, if my thumbs can take it, stabbed myself in both of them last night with a scalpel :)

 

Keep with it Tom. Getting the back of that coach right is not going to be easy, but what you've achieved so far certainly looks the part.

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