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3 hours ago, Jack97m said:

I’ve just had a look but can’t see anything, has a date been set for when preordering will start. 
 

thanks 

 

From the information provided by Cavalex: "More details on how to order will be provided next month."

 

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Cav, Alex

Great news on the announcement of the steel hoods, BIA, BWA and BXA family. I know its early days but will you be marking them up with the different TOPS codes? Nice to see the BBA proposed in EWS ivery too.

 

I can retire my Cambrian kit-bashed efforts now :good:

 

I am not one for wish-listing but have you considered the DB Schenker MVA too? I don't know how many were converted from BBA chassis, but I think they were used on Peak Forest aggregate flows.

 

MVA 910164 is a box body on a Cambrian chassis. Perhaps something to consider in the future? Or a retailer commision?

 

 

BIA wagons 600x450px.jpg

MVA 910164 600x450px.jpg

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28 minutes ago, D9502 said:

Cav, Alex

Great news on the announcement of the steel hoods, BIA, BWA and BXA family. I know its early days but will you be marking them up with the different TOPS codes? Nice to see the BBA proposed in EWS ivery too.

 

I can retire my Cambrian kit-bashed efforts now :good:

 

I am not one for wish-listing but have you considered the DB Schenker MVA too? I don't know how many were converted from BBA chassis, but I think they were used on Peak Forest aggregate flows.

 

MVA 910164 is a box body on a Cambrian chassis. Perhaps something to consider in the future? Or a retailer commision?

 

 

BIA wagons 600x450px.jpg

MVA 910164 600x450px.jpg


Alas the BAA and BBA rebodies were one offs!

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The covered ex BBA ( BIA , BXA and BWA ) as per the proposed Cavalex model comprises of 42 wagons , the list is below  ;

BIA coded

910024 BIAH BI001E

910076 BIAH BI001E

910078 BIAH BI001E

910105 BIAH BI001E

910194 BIAH BI001F

910239 BIAH BI001F

910303 BIAH BI001F

910340 BIAH BI001F

910357 BIAH BI001F

910494 BIAH BI001F

910504 BIAH BI001F

910535 BIAH BI001F

These are all ex BIA wagons that were fitted with five longitudinal ex BOA end cradles

 

BWA coded

910234 BWAH BW002C

910269 BWAH BW002C

910413 BWAH BW002C

910421 BWAH BW002C

910422 BWAH BW002C

910426 BWAH BW002C

910440 BWAH BW002C

910450 BWAH BW002C

910484 BWAH BW002C

910489 BWAH BW002C

These are all ex BWA that had five ex BZA traverse cradles , there were a total of 13 of these converted , with 910223 , 910264 and 910307 becoming BXA upon conversion

 

BXA coded

910000 BXAA BX010A Ex BUA hot coffin slab wagon conversion

910071 BXAA BX010A

910112 BXAA BX010A

910163 BXAA BX010A

910170 BXAA BX010A

910179 BXAA BX010A

910223 BXAA BX010A

910252 BXAA BX010A

910258 BXAA BX010A

910264 BXAA BX010A

910307 BXAA BX010A

910420 BXAA BX010A

910423 BXAA BX010A

910425 BXAA BX010A

910427 BXAA BX010A

910441 BXAA BX010A

910457 BXAA BX010A

910465 BXAA BX010A

910469 BXAA BX010A

910487 BXAA BX010A

 

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Wagon pools for BIA , BXA and BWA covered coil wagons ;

Pool 4109 Immingham - various – coil

Wagon type BWA

910234

910269

910413

910421

910422

910426

910440

910450

910484

910489

Total 10 wagons

 

Pool 4149 Scunthorpe - various – coil

Wagon type BIA /BXA

910071 BXA

910076 BIA

910105 BIA

910170 BXA

910179 BXA

910194 BIA

910239 BIA

910252 BXA

910258 BXA

910264 BXA

910303 BIA

910307 BXA

910340 BIA

910357 BIA

910425 BXA

910427 BXA

910441 BXA

910465 BXA

910487 BXA

Total 19 wagons

 

Pool 4201 Humber ports - Wolves – coil

Wagon type BIA /BXA

 

910024 BIA

910078 BIA

910112 BXA

910163 BXA

910223 BXA

910420 BXA

910423 BXA

910457 BXA

910469 BXA

910494 BIA

910504 BIA

910535 BIA

Total 12 wagons

 

 

This leaves just one wagon missing which is 910000 in pool 9000 ( withdrawn pool )

 

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On 22/02/2021 at 14:00, Jack97m said:

I’ve just had a look but can’t see anything, has a date been set for when preordering will start. 
 

thanks 

 

Good evening Jack,

 

Thanks for your message. As Roy kindly posted we will be providing an update next month on how to pre-order.

 

Please do keep an eye on our website and social media pages.

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On 21/02/2021 at 20:24, bazjones1711 said:

Seeing that the BBA with six cradles are to be made here is some information on them ;

BBA wagon pool 4225 Various to various stainless slab / coil .

Total 33

910003 , 006 , 112 , 170 , 179 , 216 , 223 , 234 , 235 , 258 , 264 , 269 , 275 , 292 , 307 , 413 , 420 , 421 , 422 , 423 , 424 , 425 , 426 , 427 , 440 , 441 , 447 , 450 , 461 , 465 , 469 , 484 , 489 .

These 33 wagons were fitted with 6 traverse cradles for carrying stainless slab cast from Tinsley Park steelworks to the East coast ports like Grimsby for an onward sea journey to Germany for rolling , only to be brought back on the same wagons now as coil to Tinsley and Panteg , slab also ran from Tinsley to Lackenby and Port Talbot to be rolled into coil , but as these plants dealt with normal steel , the process of rolling stainless was not best suited to these two plants , hence a switch to European plants . These wagons ran with BDA , BMA with slab and SPA , BAA , BDW  with imported coil either as semi finished coil to Tinsley and Panteg or as wrapped finished steel to the likes of Wolverhampton , Brierley Hill etc..

Liveries for  these were black with railfreight logo and red cradles or original bauxite brown with brown cradles .

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Thank you BaxJones1711 for all your posts, photos and the information that you have kindly included. This will prove very helpful for these future releases.

 

We are very much looking forward to producing these versions.

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image.png.3d4ef42e7b642f9641d43c841a05353f.pngJust to confuse matters with the BBA conversions , this is how the 13  BWA would have been configured prior to being converted to  BWA covered wagons , they had five traverse ex BZA cradles fitted , these wagons worked from Grimsby to the likes of Tinsley , Wolverhampton etc... with imported coil . Not sure how the cradles were arranged when they were covered wagons .

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3 hours ago, Grimleygrid said:

 

Good evening Jack,

 

Thanks for your message. As Roy kindly posted we will be providing an update next month on how to pre-order.

 

Please do keep an eye on our website and social media pages.

 

Looking forward to the EWS releases, these are the ones I'm really after!

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Spotted a couple of news items on Facebook re another run of these, but including the EWS livery. When will the website get updated so we can start to place orders? Tony.

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It should in theory just clip back down onto the pegs. I guess it depends on how it has come free as they are glued in place at the factory and stay in place unless levered up somehow. We did have a few rejects at the beginning which were put aside that had been packaged incorrectly with the deck not located under the blister packaging which when closed up pulled the decking off in places and bent it, we did however hand check every wagon in this batch and none left us in that condition so can't see that being the issue.

 

Do you know how the deck came free? It may have broken the pegs or it may have simply slid off of them depending on what happened. If they have just popped off then it should just glue back down on top. If the pegs have broken then the peg debris may get in the way of a flush fit going back so the broken pegs may have to be paired back. Either way a repair should be doable, just take care not to scratch the paint from the deck mesh if you are waving a scalpel blade around between the two.

 

Looking at the photo it also looks as though the main deck has popped off as well just above the bogie, there is a clip there which looks like it needs snapping back onto the metal frame.

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On 07/04/2021 at 21:23, RBE said:

It should in theory just clip back down onto the pegs. I guess it depends on how it has come free as they are glued in place at the factory and stay in place unless levered up somehow. We did have a few rejects at the beginning which were put aside that had been packaged incorrectly with the deck not located under the blister packaging which when closed up pulled the decking off in places and bent it, we did however hand check every wagon in this batch and none left us in that condition so can't see that being the issue.

 

Do you know how the deck came free? It may have broken the pegs or it may have simply slid off of them depending on what happened. If they have just popped off then it should just glue back down on top. If the pegs have broken then the peg debris may get in the way of a flush fit going back so the broken pegs may have to be paired back. Either way a repair should be doable, just take care not to scratch the paint from the deck mesh if you are waving a scalpel blade around between the two.

 

Looking at the photo it also looks as though the main deck has popped off as well just above the bogie, there is a clip there which looks like it needs snapping back onto the metal frame.


cheers, will have a look tomorrow. All

i can think of is it not liking extreme heat variations (I have a garden layout and the stock goes from inside a warm house and in to an often freezing cold garden and back every day I run it......

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Hi thats not the same issue as the other persons post however yes that doesn't look to be correct. It looks as though the bufferbeam has not been pushed down far enough over the subframe at the end. 

 

Please contact us via email at [email protected] and we will take a look.

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