Grimleygrid Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 17 minutes ago, GordonC said: Did many BBA's make it into Railfreight Metals sector livery? The couple of photos on Paul Bartletts site only seem to show one wagon Good morning Gordon, Our understanding is that only two BBAs received Metals livery, 910265 and 910333. Links to photos on Paul Bartlett's site: https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/bba/e3c4213cf https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/bba/e27dc5a9d Hope that helps. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ncarter2 Posted April 21, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 21, 2021 Took the plunge, ordered the EWS variants. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XChris Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 The EWS ones are more than tempting me, if I were to get any others which ones would fit into 2010-2018 era brackets, or wouldn't it matter because of how I'd need to weather them? As I know I need to add some to both the flats and the coil rakes I have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 The brown ones (not bauxite) are a base for the weathered look currently seen on the prototype. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) BSC Lackenby slab / bloom pool , these worked to BSC Shelton , BSC Workington , BSC Scunthorpe , BSC Skinningrove , within the pool a small amount of BBA wagons worked to BSC Hartlepool with coil , later a dedicated pool was formed for the coil traffic ( these are coded ISHRCL in the TOPS report) Dated 1988 Edited April 21, 2021 by bazjones1711 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 BSC Scunthorpe to BSC Lackenby slab pool . BBA and BAA slab wagon pool TOPS report from 1988. This is the pool for the slab traffic that ran from BSC Scunthorpe to BSC Lackenby , not seen many pictures of this train , those that i have seen are class 56 and pairs of class 20's as i assume this was a Frodingham duty. To model this train formation , i have worked out that the consist was usually about 10 wagons being a mixture of both types of wagon. By looking at the report it gives us thus : Consist at 23.25 : ( empty ) BAA 900003 , 170 , 175 , 184 , 205 , 266 , 304 . BBA 910092 , 309 , 511. Total 10 wagons Consist at 20.20 : ( loaded ) BAA 900017 , 020 , 088 , 113 , 150 , 171 , 173 . BBA 910011 , 169 . Total 9 wagons Consist at 00.20 : ( empty ) BAA 900132 , 139 , 161 , 236 , 241 , 259 ,288 , 299 , 300 . BBA 910577. Total 10 wagons . 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Pool for the BAA and BBA from Grimsby All the BBA in the pool had wooden cradles , the BAA had a mixture of wooden and the early type metal cradle , of these i know 900090 , 900118 and 900193 had these fitted sidewards and 900172 had them longitudinal. 21121 is the code for Grimsby dock 25208 is BSC SPACE at Tinsley where the coil was unloaded 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) BBA with wooden cradles that worked from Grimsby in Pool 4157 with imported coil , see link below https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/bba/e3e24d6c Edited April 21, 2021 by bazjones1711 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRDBLUE17 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Hello everyone, Colin, Mike and myself at Rainbow Railways are absolutely delighted to be able to stock Cavalex Models with the General release BBA’s and BLA’s now available on our website to preorder. No payment is necessary until they come into stock and VAT is deducted for international orders. They are already proving popular. If you missed out on the first batch I will have one of my own models from the first batch on display when we open our new shop in Linlithgow next week. For details of our shop opening and to order please visit our website: https://rainbowrailways.co.uk/new-products/ Thanks Mark 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 hour ago, bazjones1711 said: BBA with wooden cradles that worked from Grimsby in Pool 4157 with imported coil , see link below https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fpaulbartlett.zenfolio.com%2Fbba%2Fh3e24d6c%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR276C1im8y89v1Rb9Z5sXg8hbujbpQnBnRz3a7v9nsHYJsrFzvlpsWSEVw&h=AT3l1jbhnNxY5BYDXny8BVR2WPHsxlsrABsQT3AyJtnPINhBg9MU8UdZY3Y6lFbBr5uvf8V-PZsDF_ZDltE0m-7CMoqzdCG8KC_tcuAgX3Xj9XOJeIJxorA7SnOxkMjN8MeS_9H1nR81D5k&__tn__=R]-R&c[0]=AT2FkhT6dYIgurhLxTRuIntlWZuG3KZpiBN_6Iox2Y5_xXNKeRqzkh8cEMn70IWpMzxNKr_Dj1HCKq2bead4AZg3WKAVADR_nUcrUPgc_08AMxZbRhr2-3Q_ekfTrw5VVETrDyDwQccxxqcRauMqLPAfU9VvB_R0pds What the H..l is that? Please explain the Facebook link. This is the correct link https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/bba/e3e24d6c Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, hmrspaul said: What the H..l is that? Please explain the Facebook link. This is the correct link https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/bba/e3e24d6c Paul I have corrected the link , so I do apologise , I have used links only to your wagons photographs on my Modelling Railfreight Metals Facebook group for members to click and follow , no photographs have been published or copied onto the group , I inadvertently copied the link from the Facebook group onto this RM Web page , I apologise for any upset I may have caused . I have included a screenshot of the links I post for wagon posts on the group . Regards Barrie Edited April 21, 2021 by bazjones1711 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Walker Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 (edited) I've checked a few websites and the Cavalex page, but can't see any of the EWS livery versions anywhere, so I can place an order. Anyone got an idea where I can order them from. And there's none at all available on the Cavalex webpage only the TEA tankers. Edited April 22, 2021 by Tony Walker Added a bit more on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southwich Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Tony Walker said: I've checked a few websites and the Cavalex page, but can't see any of the EWS livery versions anywhere, so I can place an order. Anyone got an idea where I can order them from. And there's none at all available on the Cavalex webpage only the TEA tankers. Hi Tony, The links to all of the retailers stocking the BBAs are on the BBA update on the blog. The EWS ones are available exclusively to @KMS Railtech - link to the order page is here: https://www.kmsrailtech.co.uk/422-bbabla-wagon Hope that helps. Kind regards, Will Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Might sound like a silly question, but are any of these models how they are now? I.e. they look a bit like the bauxite at the moment but I don't know if this just they are really weathered/rusted EWS or just with no relevant models Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted April 22, 2021 Author Share Posted April 22, 2021 48 minutes ago, TomScrut said: Might sound like a silly question, but are any of these models how they are now? I.e. they look a bit like the bauxite at the moment but I don't know if this just they are really weathered/rusted EWS or just with no relevant models Good evening Tom, thank you for your question. The Plain Brown version is a generic base colour for a dirty/rusty version of the wagon. The idea behind these are really to represent a base to a weathered finish more often as seen today. As you mention the wagons are in a very dirty, grimy and rusty state these days! Hope that helps. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Walker Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 22 hours ago, Southwich said: Hi Tony, The links to all of the retailers stocking the BBAs are on the BBA update on the blog. The EWS ones are available exclusively to @KMS Railtech - link to the order page is here: https://www.kmsrailtech.co.uk/422-bbabla-wagon Hope that helps. Kind regards, Will Thanks Will, I'll get some ordered now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 15 hours ago, Grimleygrid said: Good evening Tom, thank you for your question. The Plain Brown version is a generic base colour for a dirty/rusty version of the wagon. The idea behind these are really to represent a base to a weathered finish more often as seen today. As you mention the wagons are in a very dirty, grimy and rusty state these days! Hope that helps. You can judge for yourself how this works. One of the newly painted EWS wagons https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/bba/e8c736f1c And the same wagon about 21 years later https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/bba/eadabf131 (and a series of details). There is no sign the basic EWS colour had been overpainted; all the main writing remains identical, but DB have overpainted some parts and the maintenance panels have, of course, been updated. Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 (edited) Agreed Paul, no one is saying they are overpainted, the brown is to allow an easier weathering job rather than trying to get EWS maroon to look like a rusty 21 year old brown finish. Having crawled all over these at Scunthorpe when doing the model there was no sign at all of the maroon finish, or any other finish for that matter, they previously had. Edited April 23, 2021 by RBE 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down_Under Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Just to confirm, the Bauxite coloured ones would be correct for 1976 until rail freight livery was introduced? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted April 24, 2021 Author Share Posted April 24, 2021 4 hours ago, Down_Under said: Just to confirm, the Bauxite coloured ones would be correct for 1976 until rail freight livery was introduced? Good morning Down_Under, yes the Bauxite livery would be the correct livery for 1976 and prior to Railfreight livery being introduced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
owentherail Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 If the dirty brown is the same as the original run I'm happy, tho I thought it mite me the freight red under all that grime Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trains4U Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 (edited) I’m pleased to say that in addition to stocking the 13 variants announced in the general release, we will also have three previously unavailable versions of Railfreight BBA, exclusive to Trains4U. BBA 910045 Railfreight red and black, large central BR Railfreight logo and round buffers BBA 910342 Railfreight red and black, large central BR Railfreight logo with white infill and rectangular buffers BBA 910163 plain Railfreight black and red, no logos, rectangular buffers We are not set up to take card details for pre orders, but we will open an order form shortly to allow you to register an order for any of the 16 versions. Edited April 26, 2021 by Trains4U 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faa77 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 (edited) Been away for a while, missed the first batch and wondered if anyone is selling any of the Railfreight models (Rails' triple packs or the general release ones)? I can guess the answer but might as well ask. Please send a private message if you do. Thanks, Edited May 14, 2021 by faa77 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Hi, several retailers will be stocking the Railfreight liveried wagons from the second batch which is due to go into production shortly. Trains 4U in the previous post and Rails being two of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faa77 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 (edited) On 14/05/2021 at 08:09, RBE said: Hi, several retailers will be stocking the Railfreight liveried wagons from the second batch which is due to go into production shortly. Trains 4U in the previous post and Rails being two of them. Hi, thanks. Yeah i'll order those. I just wanted to try and get the models from the first batch too. Edited May 18, 2021 by faa77 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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