Mark Saunders Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 12 hours ago, faa77 said: What year did BLA wagons appear? The initial ones were in traffic in May 1994 with the main build coming shortly after. The early build (I think there were only 10 of these) were taller at the sides, https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/bba/e38859ae2 Whilst the later much lower https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/bba/e3c939d87 Mark Saunders 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faa77 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Mark Saunders said: The initial ones were in traffic in May 1994 with the main build coming shortly after. The early build (I think there were only 10 of these) were taller at the sides, https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/bba/e38859ae2 Whilst the later much lower https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/bba/e3c939d87 Mark Saunders Thanks! Too late for Railfreight livery then? Edited April 24, 2019 by faa77 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 No, the BLA was introduced when Railfreight livery was still a thing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 On 23/04/2019 at 16:34, Mark Saunders said: The initial ones were in traffic in May 1994 with the main build coming shortly after. The early build (I think there were only 10 of these) were taller at the sides, https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/bba/e38859ae2 Whilst the later much lower https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/bba/e3c939d87 Mark Saunders Mark We saw several of them when we were in Llanwern BSC on 15 April 1994. They didn't look too new then - and no sign the wagon they were sat on had received any attention! https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/llanwernbsc/e37069dcc https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/llanwernbsc/e3d6695e5 Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 20 minutes ago, hmrspaul said: Mark We saw several of them when we were in Llanwern BSC on 15 April 1994. They didn't look too new then - and no sign the wagon they were sat on had received any attention! https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/llanwernbsc/e37069dcc https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/llanwernbsc/e3d6695e5 Paul Paul Correct but I believe that they were a cheap conversion with the luxury of painting not extended beyond the coil boxes! Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyboy Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 when wagons were serviced at Motherwell TMD 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 On 25/04/2019 at 18:33, Mark Saunders said: Paul Correct but I believe that they were a cheap conversion with the luxury of painting not extended beyond the coil boxes! Mark Mark Agreed, but my main point was that the cradles didn't look too recently painted when we saw them in April 94, so must have been around for a bit. Probably mentioned in one of the prototype mags when they were introduced. The original topic was about how early they could appear. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted April 27, 2019 Author Share Posted April 27, 2019 17 hours ago, tommyboy said: when wagons were serviced at Motherwell TMD Interesting photo Tom, do you know how many BBAs received Metals livery or a version of Metals livery? Many thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 910265 was the wagon pictured above described as ghost black livery a one off livery , with 910333 in sector livery with yellow ends again a one off livery 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 This is one of the early tall rebuilds on the 16th of April 1994. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Harvey Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) 19 hours ago, hmrspaul said: Mark Agreed, but my main point was that the cradles didn't look too recently painted when we saw them in April 94, so must have been around for a bit. Probably mentioned in one of the prototype mags when they were introduced. The original topic was about how early they could appear. Paul If I recall correctly the cradles were made in Stoke on Trent by a local fabricator. They were fitted to the wagons at Marcroft Engineering's site. In those far off pre-privatisation days the logical way to do this was to cycle trainloads of wagons through the Stoke site over the Christmas/New Year break loading the cradles to the wagons. No special attention was given to the wagons at all. If I can find my old reports for the period I should be able to pinpoint whether it was Christmas 1992 or 1993 this all took place. Edited April 28, 2019 by Mike Harvey Added dates Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 15 hours ago, Mark Saunders said: This is one of the early tall rebuilds on the 16th of April 1994. Interesting to see that the part-circle of different-coloured paint on the cradles seems to have been present from new. When this cropped up before, I'd suggested it was a result of loading hot coils, but it looks as though it pre-dated that. Presumably the wagons came in from the Lackenby- Shelton Bar slab workings? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Harvey Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Fat Controller said: Presumably the wagons came in from the Lackenby- Shelton Bar slab workings? Some were worked in a block trains of empties, but where from I do not know. Some loaded trains went (back) to South Wales. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 These wagons were new to me when Paul photographed them on the 15th and why I returned on the 16th to take the photo that is posted! It was commented on by the works guide that they were new for Shotton traffic. Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clagsniffer Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 Was wondering if there was any update on this project? Did it go to the tooling stage as projected at the end of April? cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted May 6, 2019 Author Share Posted May 6, 2019 May 2019 update: We are pleased to announce that the tooling stage of the process for our BBA wagon has started. Further updates will be provided in due course. Pre-orders are still available via the following link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfsYhibdco6ikCdimdnhuxk8CFO7z0ky4Zc_WEY7YSv9SI9yg/viewform?usp=sf_link 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyboy Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 yesterdays Dalzell to Tees Yard empty slab train again with a mix f BBA and BAA wagons 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
branchie Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 (edited) Appreciate that this is the 4mm thread, but is there any news on the potential n gauge version? Edited May 27, 2019 by branchie Fat fingers & dodgy phone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sails Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Interesting announcement from Rails, partnership with Cavalex for packs of BLA and BBA, lovely stuff. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
66738 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 (edited) On 01/06/2019 at 08:23, Sails said: Interesting announcement from Rails, partnership with Cavalex for packs of BLA and BBA, lovely stuff. Yes. BBA packs (A + B) ordered. Very nice. 66738 Edited July 25, 2020 by 66738 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoey Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Will be ordering for sure and hoping that an EWS livery will be announced in a next batch perhaps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faa77 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Anyone know why the Rails website mentions two BBA packs (of 3 wagons), but then only gives the running numbers for one pack and not the second? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo 079 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Both sets are on the website now. Search Manufacturers, Cavalex and you will find them. Running numbers are:- Pack A 910026/75/45 Pack B 910161/267/342. Kevin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 BAAs 910026 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/bba/e21745555 910045 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/bba/e33575478 910075 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/bba/e25e939f2 910161 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/bba/e2b185a71 910267 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/bba/e35b0baac 910342 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/bba/e2de37b5e BLA 910232 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/bba/e384b3295 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/bba/e3eb2bc34 910177 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/bba/e38859ae2 Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d winpenny Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Hi chaps just wondered how things were progressing david 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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