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#1 yelrow

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Posted 08 November 2018 - 17:23

hi, have sprog 2 and 3, and have an MTH loco, that refuses to POM, using my Hornby Elite.  Can anyone advise in very simple terms how to set up, and do it, with a Sprog. thanks.





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Posted 08 November 2018 - 17:53

Just bumping this in the hope Crosland, Mr Sprog, sees it

#3 Butler Henderson

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Posted 08 November 2018 - 18:29

Sprog 3 needs a 2.5 amp regulated power supply of between 12 and 18 v and decoder pro running on a pc

Sprog 2 needs needs a 1 amp( minimum) regulated power supply of between 12 and 15 v and decoder pro running on a pc

http://www.sprog-dcc.co.uk/faq.shtml

 

Drivers for your pc can be found at http://www.sprog-dcc.../download.shtml and note the installation instructions for differing operating systems and versions.



#4 Nigelcliffe

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Posted 08 November 2018 - 18:32

For the MTH loco, suggest googling the specific model in question.  Some MTH products have a reputation of not programming easily on DCC because MTH use their own proprietary digital control system which isn't the same as DCC.  This old thread (which goes on to talk about Elites may help) - it implies the loco may need to be "turned on" before programming an address change.

http://www.rmweb.co....otives-and-dcc/

 

And this page from NCE may also help, giving alternative CVs which can be set to change addresses if directly changing CV1 or CV17/18 isn't possible:

https://ncedcc.zende...osound-2-CV8-27-



#5 ColinK

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Posted 08 November 2018 - 19:34

I too have a sprog and power supply, but never used it as I’m not sure what to do.

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Posted 08 November 2018 - 20:06

I too have a sprog and power supply, but never used it as I’m not sure what to do.

 

At the EM Gauge Society AGM in Hexham in a few weeks time, I'm doing the DCC Demo Table.  I can go through Sprog basics if you come along. 



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Posted 08 November 2018 - 20:18

Just bumping this in the hope Crosland, Mr Sprog, sees it

 

I have been away :)

 

If you want to POM (as with the Elite) then you need to set the JMRI preference for the SPROG to SPROG Command Station mode. You can only write (not read) when programming on the main.

 

I am afraid I can't offer specific MTH help, but Nigel's reply looks helpful, although I'm not sure of he's refeering to POM or programming track (service mode) programming.

 

Or maybe I've missed the point completely :)



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Posted 08 November 2018 - 22:39

At the EM Gauge Society AGM in Hexham in a few weeks time, I'm doing the DCC Demo Table.  I can go through Sprog basics if you come along.


Many thanks Nigel, that would be really useful. Its one of my rare Saturdays off work but I’m already booked on a railtour.

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 18:28

I too have a sprog and power supply, but never used it as I’m not sure what to do.

Look up my previous posting in this thread and download the requisite drivers and decoder pro, and follow the appropriate instructions for installing the drivers - you will need an appropriate usb lead to connect the SPROG to the computer, Connect the output of the SPROG to a spare length of track, put decoder fitted loco on the track and launch decoder pro - see page 19 onwards of this pdf http://www.sprog-dcc...IIUserGuide.pdf (note the earlier bits in the pdf re driver installation are largely out of date unless you are using a c 2007 operating system.


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#10 Butler Henderson

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Posted 10 November 2018 - 11:31

One thing to add is if you have a SPROG II (not a SPOG IIv3) then if you are using W10 after every major update to W10 you have to reinstall the drivers - a long winded progress as you have to reboot the pc first of all and disable driver signing as per the first time you installed the drivers on W10  - the same applies to the initial install for all SPROGs on W8 or W8.1 (should any one still be using that awful operating system)

http://www.sprog-dcc...nstallation.pdf



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Posted 10 November 2018 - 15:48

Hi, thanks. Will need a lot of time to understand all this, but have loaded decoder pro on laptop. Its a pity that my Elite on POM, does not appear to be able to talk to MTH loco. Whatever i do, it remains on 03. Runs and chuffs happily on DC, but nothing works on DCC. Cant be decoder, as cab chat also works on DC.



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Posted 10 November 2018 - 16:43

My O gauge loco has a switch that changes from mth to DCC mode to allow changing the address and programming the CV’s but it has to be done in POM on any system according to the manual that comes with the loco.

Hope this may help, mike

#13 yelrow

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Posted 10 November 2018 - 19:04

mIked, hi, thanks, better class of loco, 0 gauge.  Does it tell you in your manuel, how to POM, and what controller, do you use. john



#14 Butler Henderson

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Posted 24 December 2018 - 17:44

Christmas present from Andrew Crosland (he of SPROG) as he has published details of how to avoid the necessity to reinstall a SPROG II after every major W10 update. The details are on the [email protected] group.


Edited by Butler Henderson, 24 December 2018 - 17:45 .