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Sounds for a second Class 68, who should I get it from

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Hi Guys

 

I am asking for some recomendations for a sound supplier.

 

I have 2 class 68's one already has sound supplied by Youchoos and I fancy fitting sound to the second one, but as they will both be used at the same time I don't think it will work if I have the same soundset running on both.

 

Anyone got any recommendations.

 

Thanks

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Hi Guys

 

I am asking for some recomendations for a sound supplier.

 

I have 2 class 68's one already has sound supplied by Youchoos and I fancy fitting sound to the second one, but as they will both be used at the same time I don't think it will work if I have the same soundset running on both.

 

Anyone got any recommendations.

 

Thanks

Dapol use the Legomanbiffo project with poor speakers, What speakers are you using?

 

As they are 'Very' important as the project was recorded on the mainline with a 1000 Ton train.     Charlie

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It for the n-gauge version so little choice other than the standard sugacube speaker stuck to the built in baffle.

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Why will they not work together with the same sound project? I assume you are actually using DCC. I believe most ESU projects will work with DC but you won't be able to use any of the features.

I believe locos which should sound the same will need matching projects, otherwise your 68s will sound like different classes.

Assuming your existing decoder is a LokSound v4, You could always try one of Biff's, decide which one you like best then get the other re-blown to match.

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Why will they not work together with the same sound project? I assume you are actually using DCC. I believe most ESU projects will work with DC but you won't be able to use any of the features.

I believe locos which should sound the same will need matching projects, otherwise your 68s will sound like different classes.

Assuming your existing decoder is a LokSound v4, You could always try one of Biff's, decide which one you like best then get the other re-blown to match.

Youchoos files are on Zimo decoders as far as I know so that couldn’t be reblown with legomanbiffo’s ESU file

 

Richard

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What I was trying to avoid was both sounding identical which even in real life every loco will have its own unique sound, so I was hoping two different sound producers might make one sound slightly different from the other.

 

But then again if everyone used the same loco for their sound recordings maybe there will not be enough difference to make it worth while.

 

Also as the two are going to only be used in Nuclear flask duty perhaps sound in only one might be more practical, and cost effective.

 

Thanks

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If they are on a flask train you will be better off having identical sounds or having one as a dummy that can freewheel, otherwise you will have big problems trying to get the speeds to match

 

Richard

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What I was trying to avoid was both sounding identical which even in real life every loco will have its own unique sound, so I was hoping two different sound producers might make one sound slightly different from the other.

 

But then again if everyone used the same loco for their sound recordings maybe there will not be enough difference to make it worth while.

 

Also as the two are going to only be used in Nuclear flask duty perhaps sound in only one might be more practical, and cost effective.

 

Thanks

The Legomanbiffo Class 68 with good speakers I can assure you will sound different from the You Choos one.    Charlie.

 

PPS:  Get one and try it, if not happy return it for a full refund.   

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I have two 68's both with sound. One factory fit sound from Biff and the other self install from John at YouChoos. I agree the factory fit is a poor speaker. I like both projects though but they do sound different.

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Thanks for all the replies

 

We're is the best place to get a Legomanbiffo sound decoder?

 

Charlie are you Legomanbiffo?

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Thanks for all the replies

 

We're is the best place to get a Legomanbiffo sound decoder?

 

Charlie are you Legomanbiffo?

 

Charlie is DC kits, his website is the best place to get legomanbiffo sound decoders. He does a lot of work with Legomanbiffo which is why he's so clued up on his products.

 

Richard

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Thanks

 

Got to save my pennies for Warley but if I have enough left, I will place an order with DC-Kits.

 

Thanks again for all the input with this

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Thanks

 

Got to save my pennies for Warley but if I have enough left, I will place an order with DC-Kits.

 

Thanks again for all the input with this

SEE you at Warley.     Charlie & Ian

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The Legomanbiffo Class 68 with good speakers I can assure you will sound different from the You Choos one.    Charlie.

 

PPS:  Get one and try it, if not happy return it for a full refund.   

Wow. How can you argue with that?

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Just wondering, don't know if this is possible, but is it possible through CV adjustments to delay the startup time from when F1 is pressed to when the startup sequence starts

 

What I was thinking was as the two loco's will have the same address and one will be speed matched to the other, I have done this with two Zimo decoders in use at the moment so should still be able to match the Zimo sound to the ESU sound, but it would more realistic if when I press F1 for engine start if one would start then some seconds later the second one can start

 

I know with Zimo Sound decoders it can be done but must be done when the sound set is loaded, can the start be delayed with the ESU decoder, by just adjustment of as CV or is it only available if the sound file is set for it, or if it can be done at all.

 

Sorry for all the questions.

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Can be done because legomanbiffo sets things like HST’s up that way, it might have to be done at the time of creating the file though, only he will be able to answer

 

Richard

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Just wondering, don't know if this is possible, but is it possible through CV adjustments to delay the startup time from when F1 is pressed to when the startup sequence starts

 

What I was thinking was as the two loco's will have the same address and one will be speed matched to the other, I have done this with two Zimo decoders in use at the moment so should still be able to match the Zimo sound to the ESU sound, but it would more realistic if when I press F1 for engine start if one would start then some seconds later the second one can start

 

I know with Zimo Sound decoders it can be done but must be done when the sound set is loaded, can the start be delayed with the ESU decoder, by just adjustment of as CV or is it only available if the sound file is set for it, or if it can be done at all.

 

Sorry for all the questions.

 

 

It would have to be done in the sound file.

Its a delay file before start up begins so can't be adjusted by a CV.

Wiggy.

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Ok, thanks for the info, think I will just stick to sound in one.

 

Thanks

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One question too far or I assume it cant be done with the ESU decoder :(

Have you tried asking:  The Legoman people to save time on this?

 

Charlie

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I have a factory fitted Dapol 68 and it have to admit that I’m disappointed as it sounds more like a steam engine “ chuff” than the deep base sound that 68’s have. When standing next to them whilst they pull away, it feels like their going to move your internal organs about inside your chest lol.

 

Does anyone have a suggested speaker to replace the factory fitted one?

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The EM2 speaker sounds great but it needs a small amount of milling to fit. I posted a video earlier in this thread of one I did. If you need one fitting you can contact me to discuss it.

 

Richard

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I have a factory fitted Dapol 68 and it have to admit that I’m disappointed as it sounds more like a steam engine “ chuff” than the deep base sound that 68’s have. When standing next to them whilst they pull away, it feels like their going to move your internal organs about inside your chest lol.

Does anyone have a suggested speaker to replace the factory fitted one?

This is exactly what we found before we started fitting them with better speakers. 68 engines are deeply bassy and if you play the sound through ‘normal’ speakers, and even speakers that five years ago were considered to be state of the art, the results are disappointing. Change to an EM2 (if you don’t mind a bit of milling) or a Zimo double-dumbo (if you don’t) and the difference is remarkable. I would recommend the EM2 every single time for the 68 though.

 

Bif

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