Paul80 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Hi Guys I am asking for some recomendations for a sound supplier. I have 2 class 68's one already has sound supplied by Youchoos and I fancy fitting sound to the second one, but as they will both be used at the same time I don't think it will work if I have the same soundset running on both. Anyone got any recommendations. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 (edited) Hi Guys I am asking for some recomendations for a sound supplier. I have 2 class 68's one already has sound supplied by Youchoos and I fancy fitting sound to the second one, but as they will both be used at the same time I don't think it will work if I have the same soundset running on both. Anyone got any recommendations. Thanks Dapol use the Legomanbiffo project with poor speakers, What speakers are you using? As they are 'Very' important as the project was recorded on the mainline with a 1000 Ton train. Charlie Edited November 9, 2018 by charliepetty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul80 Posted November 9, 2018 Author Share Posted November 9, 2018 It for the n-gauge version so little choice other than the standard sugacube speaker stuck to the built in baffle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Why will they not work together with the same sound project? I assume you are actually using DCC. I believe most ESU projects will work with DC but you won't be able to use any of the features. I believe locos which should sound the same will need matching projects, otherwise your 68s will sound like different classes. Assuming your existing decoder is a LokSound v4, You could always try one of Biff's, decide which one you like best then get the other re-blown to match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul80 Posted November 9, 2018 Author Share Posted November 9, 2018 What I was trying to avoid was both sounding identical which even in real life every loco will have its own unique sound, so I was hoping two different sound producers might make one sound slightly different from the other. But then again if everyone used the same loco for their sound recordings maybe there will not be enough difference to make it worth while. Also as the two are going to only be used in Nuclear flask duty perhaps sound in only one might be more practical, and cost effective. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Another recommendation here for the Biffo chip... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 What I was trying to avoid was both sounding identical which even in real life every loco will have its own unique sound, so I was hoping two different sound producers might make one sound slightly different from the other. But then again if everyone used the same loco for their sound recordings maybe there will not be enough difference to make it worth while. Also as the two are going to only be used in Nuclear flask duty perhaps sound in only one might be more practical, and cost effective. Thanks The Legomanbiffo Class 68 with good speakers I can assure you will sound different from the You Choos one. Charlie. PPS: Get one and try it, if not happy return it for a full refund. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spice1977 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I have two 68's both with sound. One factory fit sound from Biff and the other self install from John at YouChoos. I agree the factory fit is a poor speaker. I like both projects though but they do sound different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul80 Posted November 15, 2018 Author Share Posted November 15, 2018 Thanks for all the replies We're is the best place to get a Legomanbiffo sound decoder? Charlie are you Legomanbiffo? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul80 Posted November 15, 2018 Author Share Posted November 15, 2018 Thanks Got to save my pennies for Warley but if I have enough left, I will place an order with DC-Kits. Thanks again for all the input with this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Thanks Got to save my pennies for Warley but if I have enough left, I will place an order with DC-Kits. Thanks again for all the input with this SEE you at Warley. Charlie & Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 The Legomanbiffo Class 68 with good speakers I can assure you will sound different from the You Choos one. Charlie. PPS: Get one and try it, if not happy return it for a full refund. Wow. How can you argue with that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul80 Posted November 15, 2018 Author Share Posted November 15, 2018 Just wondering, don't know if this is possible, but is it possible through CV adjustments to delay the startup time from when F1 is pressed to when the startup sequence starts What I was thinking was as the two loco's will have the same address and one will be speed matched to the other, I have done this with two Zimo decoders in use at the moment so should still be able to match the Zimo sound to the ESU sound, but it would more realistic if when I press F1 for engine start if one would start then some seconds later the second one can start I know with Zimo Sound decoders it can be done but must be done when the sound set is loaded, can the start be delayed with the ESU decoder, by just adjustment of as CV or is it only available if the sound file is set for it, or if it can be done at all. Sorry for all the questions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul80 Posted November 17, 2018 Author Share Posted November 17, 2018 One question too far or I assume it cant be done with the ESU decoder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggy1 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Just wondering, don't know if this is possible, but is it possible through CV adjustments to delay the startup time from when F1 is pressed to when the startup sequence starts What I was thinking was as the two loco's will have the same address and one will be speed matched to the other, I have done this with two Zimo decoders in use at the moment so should still be able to match the Zimo sound to the ESU sound, but it would more realistic if when I press F1 for engine start if one would start then some seconds later the second one can start I know with Zimo Sound decoders it can be done but must be done when the sound set is loaded, can the start be delayed with the ESU decoder, by just adjustment of as CV or is it only available if the sound file is set for it, or if it can be done at all. Sorry for all the questions. It would have to be done in the sound file. Its a delay file before start up begins so can't be adjusted by a CV. Wiggy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul80 Posted November 17, 2018 Author Share Posted November 17, 2018 Ok, thanks for the info, think I will just stick to sound in one. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 One question too far or I assume it cant be done with the ESU decoder Have you tried asking: The Legoman people to save time on this? Charlie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted November 23, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2018 I have a factory fitted Dapol 68 and it have to admit that I’m disappointed as it sounds more like a steam engine “ chuff” than the deep base sound that 68’s have. When standing next to them whilst they pull away, it feels like their going to move your internal organs about inside your chest lol. Does anyone have a suggested speaker to replace the factory fitted one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legomanbiffo Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 I have a factory fitted Dapol 68 and it have to admit that I’m disappointed as it sounds more like a steam engine “ chuff” than the deep base sound that 68’s have. When standing next to them whilst they pull away, it feels like their going to move your internal organs about inside your chest lol. Does anyone have a suggested speaker to replace the factory fitted one? This is exactly what we found before we started fitting them with better speakers. 68 engines are deeply bassy and if you play the sound through ‘normal’ speakers, and even speakers that five years ago were considered to be state of the art, the results are disappointing. Change to an EM2 (if you don’t mind a bit of milling) or a Zimo double-dumbo (if you don’t) and the difference is remarkable. I would recommend the EM2 every single time for the 68 though. Bif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul80 Posted November 24, 2018 Author Share Posted November 24, 2018 (edited) No such option for us n-gauge modellers though it might sound good but looks a bit silly with an EM2 duct taped on top . I suppose I could put a zimo double dumbo in a towed wagon permanently connect, but think I will leave those sort of bodges to the experts at the place whose name rhymes with BRSignals (other bodgers are available) Edited November 24, 2018 by Paul80 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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