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I hope this topic hasn't been too done to death, but searching didn't seem to turn up anything quite right so here goes.

 

As someone with a penchant for big BR Blue era diesels, and likely limited space should a layout ever eventuate, I was delighted to come across this pic when Googling for images of Class 50s on freight duties. A blue 50, four (presumably fitted) 16 tonners, a tanker of some description and three presflos, captured at Newton Abbott. A train that one could produce a budget representation of with a cheap Lima loco and a handful of Dapol kits and which could be accommodated in its entirety on a modest layout. Even better, its character would remain even if a 16T or two and a presflo were removed in order to compress it still further. Lovely.

 

So how about a thread dedicated to short freights behind main line diesels, Class 40 and above for preference.

 

And no, I don't really want a TMD ;).

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Mentioned on other threads before now but fits the OP criteria so no apologies for repetition....

 

3V01 Curzon Street to Worcester vans - due Worcester bout 0700

 

Usually a boiler fitted 25 turn but turned up one Saturday with D373 on 1 12 ton van!

 

Phil

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I hope this topic hasn't been too done to death, but searching didn't seem to turn up anything quite right so here goes.

 

As someone with a penchant for big BR Blue era diesels, and likely limited space should a layout ever eventuate, I was delighted to come across this pic when Googling for images of Class 50s on freight duties. A blue 50, four (presumably fitted) 16 tonners, a tanker of some description and three presflos, captured at Newton Abbott. A train that one could produce a budget representation of with a cheap Lima loco and a handful of Dapol kits and which could be accommodated in its entirety on a modest layout. Even better, its character would remain even if a 16T or two and a presflo were removed in order to compress it still further. Lovely.

 

So how about a thread dedicated to short freights behind main line diesels, Class 40 and above for preference.

 

And no, I don't really want a TMD ;).

There was a Tuesday only departmental train Swindon - Bescot and Bescot - Swindon. This conveyed odds and ends including stuff to and from Swindon works such as demeshed class 08s, scrap locos and wagons with incompatible brakes. Andy Williams has some excellent images on his siteam which include class 50s working the trains. From memory it was WR crews working this pair of trains utilising their WR motive power.

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The Cornwall Railway Society webpage of the Barnstaple branch has a few photos of 47128 with a single OCA at Cowley Bridge and Lapford.

 

http://www.cornwallrailwaysociety.org.uk/exeter-to-barnstaple-and-ilfracombe.html

 

The Barnstaple line freight trains in the early 1980s were often short and varied, we had a good discussion some years ago with various links

 

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/34499-north-devon-line-services-in-1980s/

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There was a Tuesday only Swindon-Bescot and Bescot-Swindon pair of freights for moving odds and sods.

Excellent website from Andy Williams has a number of views of these trains and I have C&P D the caption as a taster for you - hoping Andy (Bescot plus) doesn't mind

 

 

 

50034 approaches Wednesbury with 9V01 Bescot - Gloucester. This view is from Ridding Lane, with Hydes Road bridge in the background, and was taken at 13:25 on Tuesday 26th January 1988. The stellar consist includes a Class 08 (08621), a CCT van, a TEA tank, and a brakevan. Even though it's only four vehicles long it's a fairly safe bet that a formation like this never ran before, nor afterwards.

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Back in the 1980s there were loads of BR Speedlink trip workings which featured large locos hauling short trains.

 

I'm currently modelling Deanside Transit, Glasgow with trip workings from Mossend Yard. An ideal subject for a small layout.

 

 

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4E11 00.35 Cardiff-Peterborough parcels as far as Gloucester where additional traffic was attached, and return working,  Hymek until taken over by Class 25, very uncomfortable on a 90mph train.  Load was 4 GUVs.

 

Cardiff-Crewe passenger workings post DMU, Class 25 then 33 with reducing loads to keep time; 5 then 4 then 3 mk1s.  

 

Bristol-Westbury with 31 or 33 and 3 or 4 mk1s, some extended to South Wales.

 

Marshfied (between Cardiff and Newport) milk clearance; less than 6 milk tanks with Hymek followed by 37 (early part of Pontypridd parcels turn in the 70s).

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I tried to find locations with freight activity, so managed some photos of short trains.

 

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40181 at Warrington 23/3/82

 

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37079 at York 10/6/83

 

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47285 at Hereford, 12/2/82

 

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37143 at Ripple Lane 27/7/84

 

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47146 at Ipswich 11/11/83

 

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Some from the archives, scans from Truprint images...

 

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Class 25 + M?O + brake van at Oxford

 

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Class 26 on a short TPO at Stirling

 

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Class 45 + brake van at New Street

 

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Class 50 + 7 at Dawlish (shortish)

 

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Class 86 + PCA + MCV + brake van (electric super power)

 

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There are occasional movements of rolling stock on the Cotswold Line, going to or from Long Marston.  These are usually multiple units, tankers going for cleaning, or other rolling stock in long term storage.  This is 6Z35 Long Marston to Cardiff Docks on 6th January 2017.

 

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Edit: 50008 'Thunderer' has visited Long Marston with a railvac at least twice.

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I used to live next to the Fallowfield loop so witnessed the decline in traffic between Irlam/Trafford Park and Dewsnap/Ashburys between the 70s and 80s.

 

Trains were mainly a class 40 or 24/25 plus VTG Ferrywagons or unbranded FerryVans, VDAs and such like.  Oddities would be when the brake van was pushed down to the line rather than pulled.  

 

There would be early morning trips both ways and a similar afternoon one interspersed with Trafford Park Freightliners to Wales or the North East and chemicals trains.

 

In the later years 37s would turn up more plus the odd class 56.

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The flask trains from Sellafield are usually between one and four flask wagons, always hauled by at least two locos, currently class 68 or 88. The Sellafield - Crewe train is sometimes also used to move locos. I’ve seen it with a pair of 68s plus a pair of 88s hauling just a single flask wagon.

 

The Sellafield - Heysham working has a loco at each end with as few as one flask wagon.

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Mentioned on other threads before now but fits the OP criteria so no apologies for repetition....

 

3V01 Curzon Street to Worcester vans - due Worcester bout 0700

 

Usually a boiler fitted 25 turn but turned up one Saturday with D373 on 1 12 ton van!

 

Phil

 

My first 2nd man duty at rugby in 1974 was a class 81 and a southern utility van to Crewe. 3300hp for about 20 tonnes?

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