RMweb Gold Hattons Dave Posted November 19, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 19, 2018 Hattons OO Gauge YOB Plasser 12t GPC The Plasser 12t General Purpose Crane (GPC) is a piece of On Track Plant machinery built from the mid-1970s and used countrywide as a very useful tool in relaying sites. Up until the mid 2000s they were regularly seen in consists travelling to and from worksites and there are still a small number being used with Balfour Beatty on the national network. Such is the usefulness and versatility of the design, several have been ‘preserved’ and are used maintaining heritage railways across the country. Often used in pairs for lifting track panels etc. we will be releasing matched pairs of some liveries to enable this to be shown in trains. We are producing a total of ten versions in liveries spanning the career of these perennially useful machines with variations in the tooling to accommodate the different jib supports (or lack thereof) on specific machines. Model Specifications: RP25 wheel profile NEM coupling pockets Etched metal handrails Highly detailed (static) jib and cab Crane cabling represented These models are being produced exclusively by Hattons and are available to pre-order for £69 each at www.hattons.co.uk/GPC CADs are currently being worked on with delivery scheduled to be in January 2020. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Wow 2! Anything else about to be announced? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Garry D100 Posted November 19, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 19, 2018 Cant see how to order matched pairs and which these will be. Is this a later release to those available to preorder now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hattons Dave Posted November 19, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 19, 2018 Cant see how to order matched pairs and which these will be. Is this a later release to those available to preorder now Hi Garry, The matched pairs are available in Plasser/BR yellow, unbranded yellow and Balfour Beatty blue and white. You can just order the codes ending 001 and 002, 003 and 004 or 009 and 010 respectively. I hope this helps. Cheers, Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Great job yet again Hatton's, have pre-ordered matching pair from Balfour Beatty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trog Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Interesting I was a PW Engineer for British Rail and Network Rail for nearly forty years and never saw two 12t teles used to lift track panels as a pair, that was what we had TRM's for. Pairs of road rail machines in later days yes, but two 12t tele cranes would be clumsy overkill for ordinary track panels. Although that said practices did vary from area to area. Otherwise nice to see some of the Civil Engineers kit being made available as models. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Griffin Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 excellent news, I've always like niche wagons, so will have to order a BR one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hattons Dave Posted November 19, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 19, 2018 Interesting I was a PW Engineer for British Rail and Network Rail for nearly forty years and never saw two 12t teles used to lift track panels as a pair, that was what we had TRM's for. Pairs of road rail machines in later days yes, but two 12t tele cranes would be clumsy overkill for ordinary track panels. Although that said practices did vary from area to area. Otherwise nice to see some of the Civil Engineers kit being made available as models. Hi Trog, We've seen a few examples so far of them working together. An example can be seen on the excellent ontrackplant website: http://www.ontrackplant.com/photo/81512_81527 Cheers, Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRail Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Great news and placed my pre-order for a yellow pair 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Garry D100 Posted November 19, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 19, 2018 Hi Garry, The matched pairs are available in Plasser/BR yellow, unbranded yellow and Balfour Beatty blue and white. You can just order the codes ending 001 and 002, 003 and 004 or 009 and 010 respectively. I hope this helps. Cheers, Dave Thanks Dave My misunderstanding i thought it meant like a twin pack. Placing my order now Thanks for producing this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shedmaster Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Hi, On a light hearted note, I think this is the beginning of the end of 'The Bachmann Scrum' at Warley each year..... What another interesting announcement from Hattons, I can't wait to see these, best wishes with your project, Kindest Regards, Shed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanks522 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Excellent News! More engineers wagons the better! Graham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Scottish-Exile Posted November 19, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 19, 2018 You can just order the codes ending 001 and 002, 003 and 004 or 009 and 010 respectively. Dave My misunderstanding i thought it meant like a twin pack. Oh yes, a discounted Twin Pack would be nice. You listening Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun66 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Cracking announcement, something interesting again from Hattons. Hoping for more engineering wagons and maybe test trains for the modern image era. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
66738 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) Very nice indeed. One of the branded BR ones for me. Question(s): Were these taken to site individually or with for example, Salmon ladened with track Pannels in the consist of the engineering train? What other engineering wagons could they / would they typically run with if they went to site in train consist? Were they vacuum or air braked? Edited November 19, 2018 by 66738 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 19, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 19, 2018 Nice addition to the roster. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 On a light hearted note, I think this is the beginning of the end of 'The Bachmann Scrum' at Warley each year..... Hmmmmm..... Because a PW crane is a substitute for a discounted 4MT, bogie bolster or triple pack of coal merchants' wagons? Maybe, just maybe! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 That's welcome, another secret I don't have to sit on! https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/plassercrane There is a section on these cranes in Tatlow, Peter (2018) Railway Cranes: Volume 3. Rail-mounted travelling Cranes of Britain. Publ. Crecy Publishing Ltd Manchester ISBN 978086093684-8. 224 pages. Pages 171 - 173 with one of Peters' lovely drawings. I don't know if this was an influence on Hattons but I hope it was, small on-track plant have a great deal of 'play' value as they could be seen on any part of the system, large or small. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hattons Dave Posted November 19, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 19, 2018 Very nice indeed. One of the branded BR ones for me. Question(s): Were these taken to site individually or with for example, Salmon ladened with track Pannels in the consist of the engineering train? What other engineering wagons could they / would they typically run with if they went to site in train consist? Were they vacuum or air braked? Hi 66738, 1. They would be taken to site as part of the engineers train. There's a video of a modern working here: https://youtu.be/tWZUob9nQKE?t=331 The method of working in BR days would have been broadly the same as this. 2. They would be seen with a wide variety of engineering wagons, the sky's the limit. 3. The TOPS code for these is YOB meaning: Y = engineers bogie wagon, O = the designated letter within this, B = air braked, through vacuum piped. This means that the air brakes would work on this wagon but it can be put in a vacuum-fitted train and would normally be positioned directly behind the loco. I hope this helps. Cheers, Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
66738 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Hi 66738, 1. They would be taken to site as part of the engineers train. There's a video of a modern working here: https://youtu.be/tWZUob9nQKE?t=331 The method of working in BR days would have been broadly the same as this. 2. They would be seen with a wide variety of engineering wagons, the sky's the limit. 3. The TOPS code for these is YOB meaning: Y = engineers bogie wagon, O = the designated letter within this, B = air braked, through vacuum piped. This means that the air brakes would work on this wagon but it can be put in a vacuum-fitted train and would normally be positioned directly behind the loco. I hope this helps. Cheers, Dave Hi Dave. Many thanks for your prompt reply. Your explanation answers my questions perfectly. Many thanks. 66738 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trog Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Very nice indeed. One of the branded BR ones for me. Question(s): Were these taken to site individually or with for example, Salmon ladened with track Pannels in the consist of the engineering train? What other engineering wagons could they / would they typically run with if they went to site in train consist? Were they vacuum or air braked? Perhaps more likely to go to site with the spoil wagons than the wagons of materials except for small jobs with a crossover on site where everything could be on one train, as you would want the crane on an adjacent road to the materials and the work site not the same one. The cranes were/are self propelled on site so if your site includes a siding the crane can be stabled in before the job it could then go to site under its own power. These cranes were also allowed subject to gradients to move up to 150 tons of wagons and load. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
owentherail Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Been waiting for these, hope they will be £69 still when they arrive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRDBLUE17 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Another excellent choice from Hattons and a great price too. I think a suitable 90’s era one will be needed. Thanks Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
66738 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Perhaps more likely to go to site with the spoil wagons than the wagons of materials except for small jobs with a crossover on site where everything could be on one train, as you would want the crane on an adjacent road to the materials and the work site not the same one. The cranes were/are self propelled on site so if your site includes a siding the crane can be stabled in before the job it could then go to site under its own power. These cranes were also allowed subject to gradients to move up to 150 tons of wagons and load. Thank you Trog.More valuable information for me to chew over. 66738 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyddrail Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Hi Trog, We've seen a few examples so far of them working together. An example can be seen on the excellent ontrackplant website: http://www.ontrackplant.com/photo/81512_81527 Cheers, Dave Dave, That picture shows 2 cranes lifting separate loads and not together. They work a lot with point work rather than plane track. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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