robf Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 You may very well be onto something! Anything is possible as you say not heard of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 They are still showing on the Hattons web site as due into stock between January and March 2021. I have some versions on my "wishlist". I don't know whether wishlists are used in any way as a way of measuring potential demand over and above firm orders. Given they have invested so much effort into the research & CAD, they must have had a very disappointing pre-order book to justify their decision. Or perhaps the Genesis range was looking so much more promising that they saw that as a more profitable way of using their resources for now - maybe it is just suspension as they have called it, rather than cancellation? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 I was getting both Balfour Beatty ones but like many on here wasn't pre-ordering them and just waiting until release, a bit of a shame really. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going2theDogs Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Hi All, Like others have noted here, I am dissapointed by this decision by Hatton's. I had one on order (the BB Rail variant) & was eyeing a second in the original all over yellow livery as well. Perhaps, Hatton's could of increased awareness of the situation before making this decision. Hopefully, this will be a 'postponement' not a 'cancellation'. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne 37901 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 This is a shame to read as I was looking to have at least one. One question though is if you aren't taking any further orders, how do you know if the funds will be there to make the project worth doing? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, CB Rail said: Hi All, Like others have noted here, I am dissapointed by this decision by Hatton's. I had one on order (the BB Rail variant) & was eyeing a second in the original all over yellow livery as well. Perhaps, Hatton's could of increased awareness of the situation before making this decision. Hopefully, this will be a 'postponement' not a 'cancellation'. Yes I think some sort of announcement on here as well as their website to say pre-orders are a bit low thus if you are still interested please pre-order otherwise we may have to cancel the project if a minimum amount isn't reached...maybe??? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 I’d didn’t realise this was dependant on enough pre orders ! When did they say that ? As far as I knew , when they came , I was getting one. ah well. Doesn’t sound like it’s Hattons year 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium SHerr Posted October 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2020 Me too, was definitely going to buy one but didn’t pre-order. Like others I would have done so if I had known it was essential to hit a certain number but generally don’t see the point in pre-ordering. will enough comments on here make them re-think/send out a call to arms? Hopefully may get numbers up. 2 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, SHerr said: Me too, was definitely going to buy one but didn’t pre-order. Like others I would have done so if I had known it was essential to hit a certain number but generally don’t see the point in pre-ordering. will enough comments on here make them re-think/send out a call to arms? Hopefully may get numbers up. Well if they do then I'll pre-order both Balfour Betty versions which I was going to purchase on release. Edited October 21, 2020 by classy52 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted October 21, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) Hmm, i hadn't yet placed my pre-order, I didn't think there was a need to, but I was looking at a couple of these. Edited October 21, 2020 by adb968008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDG Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Shame, I had 2 on pre-order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Banger Blue Posted October 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 hours ago, WILLIAM said: I don't understand the logic of keeping existing pre-orders open but not accepting new? How will you know if or when there is enough interest to make the project viable? I had/have 2 on pre-order. Exactly this! I have one on pre-order. Why only suspend the project but not accept new pre orders if it is so dependent on sales levels to progress? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Make your mark models does an impressive kit, so if Hattons dont, I’ll go there eventually when the “ to do before I die” list comes down a bit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Hmmm, seeing all the comments here and Facebook, I guess Hattons could leave the pre-orders button open (though maybe with price TBD) to see if they get the numbers required. Rather surprised by this news, I had ordered one to complete/compliment my engineering train. And given the large range of engineering rolling stock out there, I thought this crane was the icing on the cake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted October 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2020 25 minutes ago, rob D2 said: Make your mark models does an impressive kit, so if Hattons dont, I’ll go there eventually when the “ to do before I die” list comes down a bit Having built the Make your Mark Models kit for the twin-jib (and a few other products), I can vouch for the quality of their products. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted October 21, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 21, 2020 31 minutes ago, newbryford said: Having built the Make your Mark Models kit for the twin-jib (and a few other products), I can vouch for the quality of their products. But sadly, seem to be sold out. Roy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
66738 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Like lots more on here, I didn’t pre order.I Was just going to wait until they were released. If I had known that to obtain one, you had to pre order, I would have done. I agree that if Hattons felt they were struggling for numbers to make the project work, they could have made it known on here and in Model Magazines. I’m very disappointed and hope Hattons reconsider allowing further pre orders. 66738 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPeak45 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) Very disappointed. I had just ordered a maintenance shed for my track machine depot I was adding to the layout for these cranes. Was looking at buying a few but had not pre ordered as was waiting to see some samples. If I knew a pre order would move the project forward I would have. Anyone want a maintenance shed??? This is the 2nd time Hattons have disappointed me today. Got an email at lunchtime saying half the network rail stuff I had pre ordered in January I would not be getting as they did not receive enough stock. Pre order means nothing. Edited October 21, 2020 by HighPeak45 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted October 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Roy Langridge said: But sadly, seem to be sold out. Roy I would guess that demand dried up with announcement of the Hattons version. Maybe now he'll make some more. (On a similar note, demand for the SJR Models MPV virtually fell off a cliff when Bachmann announced their model and I'm sure that's often the case for any kit against a RTR announcement) Edited October 21, 2020 by newbryford 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 1 hour ago, rob D2 said: Make your mark models does an impressive kit, so if Hattons dont, I’ll go there eventually when the “ to do before I die” list comes down a bit Yes, I can confirm it's an excellent kit, but the possibilty of a good quality RTR version would make it difficult for them to justify producing another batch whilst it is unclear whether the Hattons product is cancelled or merely postponed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted October 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2020 Great shame, I would have bought one from my local model shop - I like to support my model shop to keep it in business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D7100 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 To Hattons Dave. If your reading this I would like to ask you to please reconsider your decision and at least give all the people that are now commenting on this subject time to get their pre-orders in. As stated many times already if you are closing your pre-order option how can you gauge demand. Also as Trains 4U said there may be lots of wholesale options to be explored. I think most of us appreciate the financial issues that are present in the global market at the moment within the backdrop of a global pandemic and respect that Hattons and other retailers and manufactures have some tuff decisions to make. But it seems a shame with so much work already put into the project not to at least allow more time for pre-orders to be taken. Cheers. D7100. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyneux Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Pity, I was going to pick one up too. As per others, I hadn't pre-ordered. Guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clagsniffer Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Just want to add my name to the list of people that would have pre ordered if I’d known the project was dependent on pre order numbers. Please @Hattons Dave reconsider and let those who were on the fence to add to pre order numbers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
letterspider Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 You can still order them on their website Time to put your money where your mouth is and get them to change their mind with a flurry of orders? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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