Nimbus Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 10 hours ago, Flying Pig said: ancient tonsured* fellows, secreted in monastic cells in the west of Ireland There is a must-visit cavern on Craggy Island, as I recall. The Nim. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 5 hours ago, Accurascale Fran said: As I had stated in the original announcement there are fettles to be done, including in this area. We have come up with what we feel is the best solution to give an accurate representation to our Deltic which is a very challenging locomotive to get right... Please 'break the mould' in yet another way and come out with what wheel diameter the OO model will have as supplied, and whether there is a potential fix for those wanting 14mm diameter wheels and prepared to have layout curves large enough that they won't grind their way through the body side. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted October 11, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 11, 2019 14 minutes ago, 34theletterbetweenB&D said: Please 'break the mould' in yet another way and come out with what wheel diameter the OO model will have as supplied, and whether there is a potential fix for those wanting 14mm diameter wheels and prepared to have layout curves large enough that they won't grind their way through the body side. It's in our minds to offer solutions, and we will have a full story on that when we're done with our testing, so bare with us for when we return from GETS next week Cheers, Fran 3 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philiprporter Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Saw this at the GETS today and it looks even better 'in the flesh' - its going to be amazing and I can't wait! 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted October 12, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2019 50 minutes ago, philiprporter said: Saw this at the GETS today and it looks even better 'in the flesh' - its going to be amazing and I can't wait! I have to agree, if that’s what it looks like naked, bring on the decorated samples. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil31 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Had a look at the EP today and now ordered another Deltic. Purple one this time, I don't really know why but it just said buy me. Great to meet you again Fran. Cheers Baz 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs233 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Clearly looking good but how do people feel comparing to images of the prototype in the area of the gap between the body and bogies? The model seems to have a gap too large in my opinion? It would be interesting for other opinions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ryde-on-time Posted October 12, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2019 1 hour ago, cs233 said: Clearly looking good but how do people feel comparing to images of the prototype in the area of the gap between the body and bogies? The model seems to have a gap too large in my opinion? It would be interesting for other opinions? Looking at the loco on display at Milton Keynes today the gap does seem a little more than originally shown. I think though that it is perhaps not helped by the light grey colour of the loco body, I don’t think it would be anywhere near as apparent with a painted darker coloured body. To be fair they have also said it’s a work in progress. Otherwise it looks fantastic, for me they really seem to have captured the character of full size engines 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MPR Posted October 12, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 12, 2019 On 11/10/2019 at 11:46, Flying Pig said: I have a vision of ancient tonsured* fellows, secreted in monastic cells in the west of Ireland who have been practising their craft since the days of St Patrick. They have certainly excelled in this instance. Agree about Andy's photos too: they bring out the character of the model superbly. *Celtic tonsure of course. I suppose any errors remaining to be corrected after the first EP would be the fault of Brother Cadfael... 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian J. Posted October 12, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 12, 2019 Unless the model is going to be restricted to scale prototypical curves, then there are going to have to be compromises somewhere. 'We' have to accept that as 'we' are modellers who all too often expect models of express locomotives to go round curves tighter than would be found on a dock side, but at express speeds. The all too common unrealistic expectation is that they should also look and work perfectly just like the prototype without any compromise. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
killucan2 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 As you can see in pic gap between body and bogie is tight, early days yet as lads said work still to be done, hopfully this will be sorted when locos arrive in new year. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray M Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) I just hope the nose of the Deltic has that outward rake. As can be seen on number 2 in the last pic. And going by the video of it leaving the shed, it looks vertically upright Just saying ? Edited October 13, 2019 by Ray M Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted October 13, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 13, 2019 11 hours ago, cs233 said: Clearly looking good but how do people feel comparing to images of the prototype in the area of the gap between the body and bogies? The model seems to have a gap too large in my opinion? It would be interesting for other opinions? Good morning from a very wet Milton Keynes! Sorry I haven’t been able to respond, but it’s been a busy one at GETS. The gap is on our list as part of bogie fettling as I stated in our original blog post update. Things will look better by deco stage. Light grey body colours does accentuate it too mind. 1 hour ago, Ray M said: I just hope the nose of the Deltic has that outward rake. As can be seen on number 2 in the last pic. And going by the video of it leaving the shed, it looks vertically upright Just saying ? The outward rake is there. We overlaid the model onto a pic and it’s correct. You can see it here in this pic below Cheers! Fran 12 3 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted October 13, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 13, 2019 Fran, is that the builders plate moulded on the EP under the window, or is it attached after. Only saying this as so many of them lost the plate during service and it would be a very difficult process for the modeller to removed without buggering up the model, would it be better if it were an etched add on? Still loving the thing though...... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted October 13, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 13, 2019 6 hours ago, boxbrownie said: Fran, is that the builders plate moulded on the EP under the window, or is it attached after. Only saying this as so many of them lost the plate during service and it would be a very difficult process for the modeller to removed without buggering up the model, would it be better if it were an etched add on? Still loving the thing though...... under review... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted October 13, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) Agree losing the builders plate from the tooling may be better. whats the reason behind separate door tooling ? - will it be opening ? Edited October 13, 2019 by adb968008 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted October 13, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 13, 2019 2 hours ago, adb968008 said: Agree losing the builders plate from the tooling may be better. whats the reason behind separate door tooling ? - will it be opening ? Hi guys, Yes, we’re looking at losing that molded plate too for obvious reasons. The doors are separate to all the adding of handrails be that bit easier is all. It will not have opening doors. Cheers! Fran 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray M Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 22 hours ago, Accurascale Fran said: Good morning from a very wet Milton Keynes! Sorry I haven’t been able to respond, but it’s been a busy one at GETS. The gap is on our list as part of bogie fettling as I stated in our original blog post update. Things will look better by deco stage. Light grey body colours does accentuate it too mind. The outward rake is there. We overlaid the model onto a pic and it’s correct. You can see it here in this pic below Cheers! Fran Thanks Fran. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted October 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) Thats good to hear re the plates Fran - thank you The original spec doesnt make mention of nameplates/crests although the assumption is I guess these will be supplied - so would hopefully be straightforwards to include etched worksplates. But ready fitted or not? Hold no fears to self fit them here but may not be the same everywhere - and a given loco may have lost worksplates part way through a livery period? Cheers Phil Edited October 14, 2019 by Phil Bullock Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McC Posted October 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Phil Bullock said: Thats good to hear re the plates Fran - thank you The original spec doesnt make mention of nameplates/crests although the assumption is I guess these will be supplied - so would hopefully be straightforwards to include etched worksplates. But ready fitted or not? Hold no fears to self fit them here but may not be the same everywhere - and a given loco may have lost worksplates part way through a livery period? Hi Phil, The Deltic specification includes Separately applied etched metal and high fidelity plastic detail parts, including grab handles, steps, wipers, nameplates, crests and more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted October 14, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 14, 2019 28 minutes ago, McC said: Hi Phil, The Deltic specification includes Separately applied etched metal and high fidelity plastic detail parts, including grab handles, steps, wipers, nameplates, crests and more Which is what made me question the seemingly moulded plates...... But Fran (and the team) are on the case it appears 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted October 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, boxbrownie said: Which is what made me question the seemingly moulded plates...... But Fran (and the team) are on the case it appears For some reason China put it into the mold, but it’s very easily dealt with. Plates will be user fitted to facilitate renaming/renumbering and avoid crooked fitting, unfiled etch witness marks and any sloppy excess glue from the factory (though I know deep down our factory would do an excellent job on fitting them!) Cheers! Fran Edited October 14, 2019 by Accurascale Fran 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted October 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 14, 2019 Ah thanks folks missed that! I did look ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 14 hours ago, Accurascale Fran said: ...The doors are separate to all the adding of handrails be that bit easier is all. It will not have opening doors... Am I the only loon thinking, 'as a separately fitted part that should make the once common sight of a Deltic in motion with cab door open that much easier to achieve'? This gets better all the time doesn't it? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mick Bonwick Posted October 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 14, 2019 On 10/10/2019 at 20:15, AY Mod said: We had a play today, sure there are revisions to be made but the shape is great and even though if hasn't got the production circuitry in it ran well handling some very iffy track. 683 grammes, that'll shift some metal. A very impressive project. Pity it isn't an O gauge one. You could then have tried it out on some really good track. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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