RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted December 31, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 hour ago, McC said: Just to clarify there is no connection between Legomanbiffo and Accurascale on the Class 55 project, it was a direct collaboration between us and ESU Germany. The sound files are currently only available in our sound equipped Deltic. I thought that was the case, I am sure it had been mentioned before it was a unique sound file. Thanks for the clarification. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted December 31, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 31, 2020 I'd have been very surprised if it was available separately and in advance of the model it was created for. No doubt it is a superb sound project but it's not the one by Accurascale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 My mistake, sorry about that Not sure why I thought it was Legomanbiffo sound file. It's a bit misleading that that file is named as it is for those that don't know. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philiprporter Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Thanks for all the clarification - much appreciated. Hopefully one day this sound project may become available as it sounds marvellous - the LB Deltic project is superb, but the only other decent option at present for O gauge that I've heard (and tried) is the Howes project, but it just doesn't have the drivability/control that the Legoman project does and it would be good to have more than one decent Deltic sound for O gauge. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted January 16, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2021 Are the Deltic’s still scheduled to arrive 2nd quarter of 2021? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Accurascale Fran Posted January 16, 2021 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2021 10 hours ago, jools1959 said: Are the Deltic’s still scheduled to arrive 2nd quarter of 2021? Hi @jools1959, At the time of writing yes. We are due decorated samples very shortly and should they be up to snuff and COVID behaves itself then it will be Q2. Once we have the decorated samples we will of course show them and provide a further update then. Expect that to occur in 4 weeks time. Cheers, Fran 9 8 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aureol40012 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 On 31/12/2020 at 16:32, philiprporter said: Thanks for all the clarification - much appreciated. Hopefully one day this sound project may become available as it sounds marvellous - the LB Deltic project is superb, but the only other decent option at present for O gauge that I've heard (and tried) is the Howes project, but it just doesn't have the drivability/control that the Legoman project does and it would be good to have more than one decent Deltic sound for O gauge. Perhaps buy a sound Accurascale Deltic and take the chip out and then sell it on? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philiprporter Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 20 hours ago, aureol40012 said: Perhaps buy a sound Accurascale Deltic and take the chip out and then sell it on? Yes I'd thought about that but I then realised that the OO chip probably wouldn't have the power for an O gauge twin motor loco? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted January 17, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 17, 2021 31 minutes ago, philiprporter said: Yes I'd thought about that but I then realised that the OO chip probably wouldn't have the power for an O gauge twin motor loco? Use two decoders? One for sound and another with the same address for the movement (although that may make timing of the sounds difficult?). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_stevens Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Bucoops said: Use two decoders? One for sound and another with the same address for the movement (although that may make timing of the sounds difficult?). Two sound decoders, each controlling one motor, sound turned to zero volume on one. Matched performance, accurate sound Not cheap, but then neither is a O-gauge Deltic Luke 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Or two sound decoders with one engine turned on one each and through a different speaker. More prototypical!!! But this is getting o/t. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted January 18, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, boxbrownie said: Or just buy an 7mm deltic and a 4mm deltic, buy a 7mm decoder and get the sound file from the 4mm dropped onto the 7mm and sell the 4mm deltic with sound.......might be a grey area legally........but thinking about it.....nah....don’t do that, not unless you have asked permission first. How do you just drop the sound from a 4mm to a 7mm? Sound files are locked to a decoder serial number. Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted January 18, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Roy Langridge said: How do you just drop the sound from a 4mm to a 7mm? Sound files are locked to a decoder serial number. Roy I don’t know the technicalities of the system but for sure in the past I have had a sound file taken off a decoder and transferred (dropped) to a new undamaged decoder, and not by the originator of the sound file. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted January 18, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 minute ago, boxbrownie said: I don’t know the technicalities of the system but for sure in the past I have had a sound file taken off a decoder and transferred (dropped) to a new undamaged decoder, and not by the originator of the sound file. I don't see how you would do it today - I have just had the experience of a typo in the decoder serial number of a sound file (error by the vendor) and it just will not load. I use LokSound and a LokProgrammer, but I believe Zimo is the same. There are some "free" sound files that are not locked, but they are very few and far between. Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted January 18, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 18, 2021 14 minutes ago, Roy Langridge said: I don't see how you would do it today - I have just had the experience of a typo in the decoder serial number of a sound file (error by the vendor) and it just will not load. I use LokSound and a LokProgrammer, but I believe Zimo is the same. There are some "free" sound files that are not locked, but they are very few and far between. Roy This was last year with a Zimo decoder.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 20 minutes ago, Roy Langridge said: I don't see how you would do it today - I have just had the experience of a typo in the decoder serial number of a sound file (error by the vendor) and it just will not load. I use LokSound and a LokProgrammer, but I believe Zimo is the same. That is how it is as far as I am aware. If you need to put it on a different decoder (say if one packs up) the vendor needs to sort that IF they are allowed to be transferred. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted January 18, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, TomScrut said: That is how it is as far as I am aware. If you need to put it on a different decoder (say if one packs up) the vendor needs to sort that IF they are allowed to be transferred. Certainly on a LokSound device. This is what you get if not: Roy Edited January 18, 2021 by Roy Langridge Atrocious spelling... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted January 18, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, TomScrut said: That is how it is as far as I am aware. If you need to put it on a different decoder (say if one packs up) the vendor needs to sort that IF they are allowed to be transferred. Well I don’t know how it was done, but it’s was....from a Manufacturers faulty Zimo decoder to a new Zimo decoder because the manufacturer would not acknowledge a problem with the original decoder. I’ll leave it at that just in case Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, boxbrownie said: Well I don’t know how it was done, but it’s was....from a Manufacturers faulty Zimo decoder to a new Zimo decoder because the manufacturer would not acknowledge a problem with the original decoder. I’ll leave it at that just in case Maybe not with Zimo, I was talking about ESU. But Zimo to Zimo the conversation isn't really relevant since you get an ESU in one of these. Sorry I should have clarified on the ESU point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 I suspect this is morally wrong, if not legally on the edge - Accurascale and ESU are producing a bespoke sound file for the V5 decoder, sold only by them in their locos. Ripping the sound file from the decoder to use elsewhere AND then selling the original decoder/loco with sound file is certainly wrong as you are effectively copying a copyrighted product and creating an extra copy with another owner (you). Continuing to own the original would probably be the only way to do this while staying on the right side of morality. Your best bet (legally and morally) would be to install the accurascale decoder into the O-Gauge loco. I thought that ESU sound decoders were capable of being used in 00 or 0 gauge locos and had the capacity to power larger scale models without damage? It do think it is rather rich to be discussing this on the Accurascale thread here on RMWeb.... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted January 18, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, G-BOAF said: I suspect this is morally wrong, if not legally on the edge - .. Which is what I said........and if further enquiries on this should be made it is to the manufacturer. The rest of the discussion was purely on the technical aspects, which should go no further. Edited January 18, 2021 by boxbrownie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 55020 Posted January 18, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 18, 2021 As the Accurascale sound file is being developed by ESU, it is possible that the file will be placed in the public domain by ESU. This appears to be the norm for non-UK decoders, as a quick scan of the Sound download section shows many files available for "factory equipped sound locomotives". We can hope Steve 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_stevens Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 That was my first thought but I suspect the sound file will be of 2 engines. Having 2 decoders with active speakers would give you the sound of 4 diesel engines. Luke 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted January 19, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 19, 2021 Hi Folks, It is exclusive to us I'm afraid. Cheers, Fran 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dicky L Posted January 19, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Accurascale Fran said: Hi Folks, It is exclusive to us I'm afraid. Cheers, Fran Absolutely spot on, why should anyone be entitled to a freebie on the back of all your hard work. On a side note I am hoping the drivelock feature will form part of you sound file so we can all give this beast the thrash it deserves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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