G-BOAF Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 hour ago, SHMD said: I remember 55002 powering north out of Doncaster after the "Plant's" open day. This was well after the class was withdrawn and with the mainline diesel ban still rigorously enforced. Now that was a sight/sound/memory... Kev. Presumably the final picture on this page: http://www.napier-chronicles.co.uk/2_27-2-82.htm 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Accurascale Fran Posted January 25, 2022 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 25, 2022 WARNING - LOUD NOISES! As part of our Deltic production each chassis is tested for performance, lighting and in cases of DCC sound models, sound quality. Here you can see some of the testing on a Deltic chassis, demonstrating the DCC sound start up and other functions such as horn and announcements. You may also note the taped up sections of track on this test layout. This tests the power bank of capacitors, which allows the model to perform over dirty/dead sections of track without interruption of the sound or running. As you can see, and hear, it performs rather well! All this tech, all these features, for just £250 DCC Sound fitted! Or, if the sound is too much, you can have the DC/DCC ready version for just £160, representing unbeatable value for money. https://accurascale.co.uk/collections/class-55-deltic Okay, shameless plug over! Cheers! Fran 22 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted January 25, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2022 17 minutes ago, Accurascale Fran said: WARNING - LOUD NOISES! As part of our Deltic production each chassis is tested for performance, lighting and in cases of DCC sound models, sound quality. Here you can see some of the testing on a Deltic chassis, demonstrating the DCC sound start up and other functions such as horn and announcements. You may also note the taped up sections of track on this test layout. This tests the power bank of capacitors, which allows the model to perform over dirty/dead sections of track without interruption of the sound or running. As you can see, and hear, it performs rather well! All this tech, all these features, for just £250 DCC Sound fitted! Or, if the sound is too much, you can have the DC/DCC ready version for just £160, representing unbeatable value for money. https://accurascale.co.uk/collections/class-55-deltic Okay, shameless plug over! Cheers! Fran Three observations: 1) What's the loco bodies on the left, interesting colour livery. 2) Please tell the factory they don't have time to play trains 3) Cool 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil31 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Wish I hadn't seen that clip Fran Just ordered another one. Baz 1 7 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted January 25, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 25, 2022 One question, when the horn sounds there seems to be a buzzing on the sound, it could be something reverberating on the Loco, I hope rather than the sound file distorting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philg Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 29 minutes ago, Accurascale Fran said: WARNING - LOUD NOISES! As part of our Deltic production each chassis is tested for performance, lighting and in cases of DCC sound models, sound quality. Here you can see some of the testing on a Deltic chassis, demonstrating the DCC sound start up and other functions such as horn and announcements. You may also note the taped up sections of track on this test layout. This tests the power bank of capacitors, which allows the model to perform over dirty/dead sections of track without interruption of the sound or running. As you can see, and hear, it performs rather well! All this tech, all these features, for just £250 DCC Sound fitted! Or, if the sound is too much, you can have the DC/DCC ready version for just £160, representing unbeatable value for money. https://accurascale.co.uk/collections/class-55-deltic Okay, shameless plug over! Cheers! Fran No shame there at all Fran - sounds amazing And I love the masking tape trick, certainly makes it obvious 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted January 25, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2022 54 minutes ago, boxbrownie said: One question, when the horn sounds there seems to be a buzzing on the sound, it could be something reverberating on the Loco, I hope rather than the sound file distorting. Hi @boxbrownie, It certainly isn’t the sound file distortion. Having heard it in person it’s clear as a bell. Cheers! Fran 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted January 25, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Accurascale Fran said: Hi @boxbrownie, It certainly isn’t the sound file distortion. Having heard it in person it’s clear as a bell. Cheers! Fran Can you hear it on the recording video? Well if it’s the EM bass speaker making the ECoS vibrate I’m going to be very worried Edited January 25, 2022 by boxbrownie 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philg Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 While being tempted (again) I noticed that there are FIVE different green models with white window surrounds, but only ONE blue one Is there a reason ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
owentherail Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, philg said: While being tempted (again) I noticed that there are FIVE different green models with white window surrounds, but only ONE blue one Is there a reason ?? At some stage all green ones had white windows where as only 5 blues ones had white frames Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
owentherail Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, owentherail said: At some stage all green ones had white windows where as only 5 blues ones had white frames I'm waiting for them to do 007 Pinza .... sure they will at some stage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RozM Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, owentherail said: At some stage all green ones had white windows where as only 5 blues ones had white frames Actually six blue ones had white window frames. Finsbury Park Depot Manager decided to give its six 'racehorses' a distinctive look back in 1979. I've ordered 'Ballymoss' and 'Tulyar' and am hoping the other four are considered in future production runs with this look. Fran, do you plan to do an updated sales table on the Deltics? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philg Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 18 minutes ago, owentherail said: At some stage all green ones had white windows where as only 5 blues ones had white frames Ohhhhhhh Im obviously too young to remember Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 2 hours ago, boxbrownie said: One question, when the horn sounds there seems to be a buzzing on the sound, it could be something reverberating on the Loco, I hope rather than the sound file distorting. I can hear what almost sounds like hissing air - might it be exactly that, the sound of the air from the air horns caught on the recording (depending on how close the microphone was to the horn)? Then again its really not fair to judge sound through 'recording a recording'. Re the masking tape - surely its not a proper test until the tape spans both bogies?! Chassis looks a lovely piece of engineering. Three more days to hopefully escaping the factory! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 4 hours ago, Accurascale Fran said: WARNING - LOUD NOISES! As part of our Deltic production each chassis is tested for performance, lighting and in cases of DCC sound models, sound quality. Here you can see some of the testing on a Deltic chassis, demonstrating the DCC sound start up and other functions such as horn and announcements. You may also note the taped up sections of track on this test layout. This tests the power bank of capacitors, which allows the model to perform over dirty/dead sections of track without interruption of the sound or running. As you can see, and hear, it performs rather well! All this tech, all these features, for just £250 DCC Sound fitted! Or, if the sound is too much, you can have the DC/DCC ready version for just £160, representing unbeatable value for money. https://accurascale.co.uk/collections/class-55-deltic Okay, shameless plug over! Cheers! Fran I'm guessing that given the centre LED for the high-intensity headlight, black/yellow warning signs PRINTED ON THE BULKHEAD!!! (good grief!!!) and the black buffer beam that is a chassis for D9009? What happened to the painted engine cylinder heads? it just looks black plastic/casting. Or is that fitted to the inside of the body? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium romley midland Posted January 26, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 26, 2022 7 hours ago, G-BOAF said: What happened to the painted engine cylinder heads? it just looks black plastic/casting. Or is that fitted to the inside of the body? Could it be down to the tungsten they’ve used for the chassis being more difficult to paint so it has been omitted? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted January 26, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2022 9 hours ago, G-BOAF said: I'm guessing that given the centre LED for the high-intensity headlight, black/yellow warning signs PRINTED ON THE BULKHEAD!!! (good grief!!!) and the black buffer beam that is a chassis for D9009? What happened to the painted engine cylinder heads? it just looks black plastic/casting. Or is that fitted to the inside of the body? Hi @G-BOAF, The engines will be painted grey as per our instructions. Cheers! Fran 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted January 26, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, romley midland said: Could it be down to the tungsten they’ve used for the chassis being more difficult to paint so it has been omitted? I thought the tungsten chassis idea was dropped a long time ago?, given the stuff is harder than most machine tools and has a really high melting point (compared with Mazak*). *Other Zinc alloys are available Edited January 26, 2022 by spamcan61 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted January 26, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, spamcan61 said: I thought the tungsten chassis idea was dropped a long time ago?, given the stuff is harder than most machine tools and has a really high melting point (compared with Mazak*). *Other Zinc alloys are available Hi @spamcan61, That is also correct, the factory did much head scratching around tungsten and felt it could not be done in this application. However we are using a zinc alloy that is not mazak. Over 800g per loco though, so plenty of weight nonetheless! Cheers! Fran 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted January 26, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 26, 2022 Fran, after your starring role in Jennys Monday club , ably supported by Mr McC I'm seriously considering changing my order for Deltic from normal version to sound . I am DC though and would not have contemplated it , but the purchase of recent models with coreless motors means I've had to disconnect my beloved electronic track cleaners , so I'll no longer fry my chips! Stephen said it would work ok on DC . Obviously I accept that there's no controls over horn etc (will they go off randomly on DC?) but it might be nice to capture the Deltic drone as she accelerates out of station . Mr McC did say I would need to apply more power for the loco to move but will it still be able to achieve top running speed ? I've seen elsewhere that sometimes locos with chips will not run on DC unless the CV is altered . Being DC I have no means of doing this , so if I got a sound Deltic , would it run straight from box without any need for programming etc . If i got fed up with sound is there any way of turning it off ? Sorry for all questions . I already have a Deltic from another manufacturer , and have one on order with you . I think it will be something special but having a sound one would make it especially so . 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted January 26, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2022 34 minutes ago, Legend said: Fran, after your starring role in Jennys Monday club , ably supported by Mr McC I'm seriously considering changing my order for Deltic from normal version to sound . I am DC though and would not have contemplated it , but the purchase of recent models with coreless motors means I've had to disconnect my beloved electronic track cleaners , so I'll no longer fry my chips! Stephen said it would work ok on DC . Obviously I accept that there's no controls over horn etc (will they go off randomly on DC?) but it might be nice to capture the Deltic drone as she accelerates out of station . Mr McC did say I would need to apply more power for the loco to move but will it still be able to achieve top running speed ? I've seen elsewhere that sometimes locos with chips will not run on DC unless the CV is altered . Being DC I have no means of doing this , so if I got a sound Deltic , would it run straight from box without any need for programming etc . If i got fed up with sound is there any way of turning it off ? Sorry for all questions . I already have a Deltic from another manufacturer , and have one on order with you . I think it will be something special but having a sound one would make it especially so . Hi @Legend, No problem at all. Our DCC sound locos will operate on DC without CV tweaks. However, you would not be able to turn sound off on DCC without tweaking the CVs. It is correct that DCC sound locos on DC take a lot more starting voltage to go through the sound sequence when powering up, but top speed is the same in our experience. Cheers! Fran 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted January 26, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2022 I didn’t know about the coreless motor thing with the HF track cleaner, so glad I just found out. There is no reason for me to go DCC at the moment as I only have the small layout. I will probably take the plunge when it eventually gets incorporated into a bigger one. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 15 hours ago, boxbrownie said: One question, when the horn sounds there seems to be a buzzing on the sound, it could be something reverberating on the Loco, I hope rather than the sound file distorting. Watching the video again it suddenly occurred to me that the D900X (9?) sticker is positioned over the second speaker. Every chance that that is distorting/vibrating with the high tones.... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted January 26, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 26, 2022 13 hours ago, G-BOAF said: I can hear what almost sounds like hissing air - might it be exactly that, the sound of the air from the air horns caught on the recording (depending on how close the microphone was to the horn)? Then again its really not fair to judge sound through 'recording a recording'. Re the masking tape - surely its not a proper test until the tape spans both bogies?! Chassis looks a lovely piece of engineering. Three more days to hopefully escaping the factory! Exactly yes, just something I noticed….I pointed it out in case it was just something on the “unfinished” mule making the noise and not a fault with the sound. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted January 26, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 26, 2022 28 minutes ago, G-BOAF said: Watching the video again it suddenly occurred to me that the D900X (9?) sticker is positioned over the second speaker. Every chance that that is distorting/vibrating with the high tones.... Yes I noticed that on rerunning the video, hopefully it’s just a one off thing with the test Loco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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