Accurascale Class 55 Deltic - 4mm scale

[delticfan]

1 hour ago, Roy Langridge said:

Whilst I agree completely, I also think that each generation thinks the same as the railway they grew up with vanishes. 
 

Roy

I completely agree with you, I just feel sort of sorry they missed my time. There are a couple of exceptions and I do love the sound of 68’s. 

[andyman7]

2 hours ago, delticfan said:

I might be getting old but on my way home yesterday through York station all I could see were Azumas, I thought what a soul less railway we have now. How lucky we were to have lived through the Deltics and banger blue diesels we just didn’t know so at the time. 

BR blue is 'my' era and continues to fascinate me, but my 12 year old loves the modern railway. What is interesting is that he has affection for Virgin, SWT and a number of other recently defunct TOCs - clearly his own nostalgia is developing so each era has its adherents

[Michael Hodgson]

I used to live 4 miles from the ECML and used to hear the deltics crossing Stilton Fen.  

Now I live 150 yards from the ECML and though I now have a hearing aid I don't hear deltics. 

I can sometimes hear an A4 chime whistle though, if there's a steam special coming through (usually on the slow line) 

[60800]

My era is the 'current' era too - I was not around for any of the British Rail era at all, being born in 1996. The Deltics I have on order are preserved examples (KOYLI, Alycidon) so I don't share the same nostalgia as others.

 

My nostalgia is rather more recent with the HST's and the steady drain of the class 91 fleet, so my railway is going to be Doncaster circa 2019, with the occasional Deltic or A4 hauled tour. 

 

 

 

 

 

This said, with KOYLI withdrawn for good and Alycidon still under repair from being zapped by the overheads, I am feeling their loss too, with a certain amount of nostalgia! 

 

Cheers,

   60800

[delticfan]

3 hours ago, 60800 said:

My era is the 'current' era too - I was not around for any of the British Rail era at all, being born in 1996. The Deltics I have on order are preserved examples (KOYLI, Alycidon) so I don't share the same nostalgia as others.

 

My nostalgia is rather more recent with the HST's and the steady drain of the class 91 fleet, so my railway is going to be Doncaster circa 2019, with the occasional Deltic or A4 hauled tour. 

 

 

 

 

 

This said, with KOYLI withdrawn for good and Alycidon still under repair from being zapped by the overheads, I am feeling their loss too, with a certain amount of nostalgia! 

 

Cheers,

   60800

9009 wasn’t zapped by the overhead power it was an internal fault and a massively expensive one at that.

[adb968008]

14 hours ago, delticfan said:

I might be getting old but on my way home yesterday through York station all I could see were Azumas, I thought what a soul less railway we have now. How lucky we were to have lived through the Deltics and banger blue diesels we just didn’t know so at the time. 

I used to think that about class 47’s... (except the Generator 47’s), and 45’s/46’s  before them at York.

 

 

[woodenhead]

14 hours ago, delticfan said:

I might be getting old but on my way home yesterday through York station all I could see were Azumas, I thought what a soul less railway we have now. How lucky we were to have lived through the Deltics and banger blue diesels we just didn’t know so at the time. 

I feel the same, but I am sure a lot of steam followers felt the same about BR in the late 60s as the diesels and electrics banished the old order.

 

There are plenty of people online though who love today's railways so us BR Blue folk are just following the same path as the steam folk.

[TravisM]

2 hours ago, woodenhead said:

I feel the same, but I am sure a lot of steam followers felt the same about BR in the late 60s as the diesels and electrics banished the old order.

 

There are plenty of people online though who love today's railways so us BR Blue folk are just following the same path as the steam folk.

I agree wholeheartedly as you only have to look at the lamenting at the loss of the HST’s.

[60800]

3 hours ago, delticfan said:

9009 wasn’t zapped by the overhead power it was an internal fault and a massively expensive one at that.

 

Was that the official word in the end then? 

 

How did they explain away the huge scorch marks on the roof?

 

Cheers,

  60800

[TomScrut]

2 hours ago, woodenhead said:

I feel the same, but I am sure a lot of steam followers felt the same about BR in the late 60s as the diesels and electrics banished the old order.

 

26 minutes ago, jools1959 said:

I agree wholeheartedly as you only have to look at the lamenting at the loss of the HST’s.

 

Yes it's something I highlight to people I see on Facebook complaining about the Hitachi's replacing "everything", the HSTs were probably a bigger culprit here given they replaced several loco classes.

 

On the flip side I don't expect anybody will be whinging about Avanti replacing Voyagers with them.

 

TBH I really like the Hitachis, but I don't buy into the idea of an inanimate object having a soul, that's not what I look for in trains and I don't necessarily need a train to make a lot of noise or smoke to like it.

[Michael Hodgson]

36 minutes ago, 60800 said:

 

Was that the official word in the end then? 

 

How did they explain away the huge scorch marks on the roof?

 

Cheers,

  60800

Driver was breaking the rules and having a quick fag break?

[G-BOAF]

9 hours ago, 60800 said:

My era is the 'current' era too - I was not around for any of the British Rail era at all, being born in 1996. The Deltics I have on order are preserved examples (KOYLI, Alycidon) so I don't share the same nostalgia as others.

 

My nostalgia is rather more recent with the HST's and the steady drain of the class 91 fleet, so my railway is going to be Doncaster circa 2019, with the occasional Deltic or A4 hauled tour. 

 

 

 

 

 

This said, with KOYLI withdrawn for good and Alycidon still under repair from being zapped by the overheads, I am feeling their loss too, with a certain amount of nostalgia! 

 

Cheers,

   60800

 

That is a really nicely done model of 60009, with the subtle roof grime that the real thing often had. What did your model start out as? And what did you do to it? Where did the air brake pipes come from?

 

I hope you will be adding your namesake to your fleet (even if it doesn't quite fit your time period...)

[boxbrownie]

2 hours ago, TomScrut said:

 

 

TBH I really like the Hitachis, but I don't buy into the idea of an inanimate object having a soul, that's not what I look for in trains and I don't necessarily need a train to make a lot of noise or smoke to like it.

They are undoubtedly good trains but have absolutely dreadful seating, even in first class they are hard as boards and no good at all for anything more than a 30 minutes ride.

 

We used to travel regularly though the year on the HST from Cornwall to London and onto Norfolk for family reasons, it was more comfortable than driving all that way, but the last two times we both had aches and pains before getting to Exeter, enough for us to say we would drive rather than “take the train”........too much “strain”.

[MikeParkin65]

3 hours ago, 60800 said:

 

Was that the official word in the end then? 

 

How did they explain away the huge scorch marks on the roof?

 

Cheers,

  60800

My reading was that the root cause hasn’t been identified but an amicable conclusion has been reached that allows the insurance company to pay out and 009 to get repaired within our life time. 

[TomScrut]

25 minutes ago, boxbrownie said:

They are undoubtedly good trains but have absolutely dreadful seating, even in first class they are hard as boards and no good at all for anything more than a 30 minutes ride

 

The only time I have been on one was in first class and I didn't think it was bad. It was however an awful journey in general as I had to go across to Leeds from York as the ECML was stopped above Doncaster. Then the train stopped at every station so TBH any seat would have done on that train!

 

From a train set perspective I aren't too fussed about how comfortable the prototype's seats are 

 

I suppose that is one thing that loco/coaches does is detaches comfort levels from the power unit. Would a 55 have worked with (loco hauled not HST) Mk3s?

[adb968008]

43 minutes ago, TomScrut said:

 

The only time I have been on one was in first class and I didn't think it was bad. It was however an awful journey in general as I had to go across to Leeds from York as the ECML was stopped above Doncaster. Then the train stopped at every station so TBH any seat would have done on that train!

 

From a train set perspective I aren't too fussed about how comfortable the prototype's seats are 

 

I suppose that is one thing that loco/coaches does is detaches comfort levels from the power unit. Would a 55 have worked with (loco hauled not HST) Mk3s?

No ordinarily, but there is a picture out there of a Deltic with mk3’s.. at York too...

 

To me class 68’s are Deltics reincarnated.

indeed maybe @cambo74 shoukd do a finsbury park cab one on his resprays.

Edited March 14, 2021 by adb968008

[60800]

2 hours ago, G-BOAF said:

 

That is a really nicely done model of 60009, with the subtle roof grime that the real thing often had. What did your model start out as? And what did you do to it? Where did the air brake pipes come from?

 

I hope you will be adding your namesake to your fleet (even if it doesn't quite fit your time period...)

 

Hi G-BOAF, Thanks

 

No.9 started out as the Commonwealth collection version and has slowly been modified over the years, with the final thing about three years ago being a tender swap to the correct type. The pipes came from a little bag of bits with the USA Scotsman, but I believe they are pipes from the class 50 accessory pack. Funnily enough all three of my 'mainline' A4's are suitably grubby and have the relevant pipework etc to match how they were when I first worked on them, being rather lucky to say I've driven one and fired all three. The last thing I need to do is modify 60007's tender then they will be complete.

 

Although 2019 is my set year, my steam fleet is quite fluid, mainly from 2000 onwards, so yes 60800 is on order haha - I'll be picking up 4771 too when the model comes out if funds allow. 

 

No such 'live' experience with Deltics sadly as I have with the A4's, but I am really looking forward to having both No.9's sat together on my layout.

 

1 hour ago, MikeParkin65 said:

My reading was that the root cause hasn’t been identified but an amicable conclusion has been reached that allows the insurance company to pay out and 009 to get repaired within our life time. 

 

Thanks for clearing it up Mike

 

Cheers,

60800

Edited March 14, 2021 by 60800

[TravisM]

2 hours ago, 60800 said:

No.9 started out as the Commonwealth collection version and has slowly been modified over the years, with the final thing about three years ago being a tender swap to the correct type. The pipes came from a little bag of bits with the USA Scotsman, but I believe they are pipes from the class 50 accessory pack. Funnily enough all three of my 'mainline' A4's are suitably grubby and have the relevant pipework etc to match how they were when I first worked on them, being rather lucky to say I've driven one and fired all three. The last thing I need to do is modify 60007's tender then they will be complete.

 

No such 'live' experience with Deltics sadly as I have with the A4's, but I am really looking forward to having both No.9's sat together on my layout.

I must admit that impressed by your description of recreating A4 60009 as I really want to get one but I’m not prepared to pay the silly prices for a Hornby one.  So I think I’ll follow your lead.

 

I’ve got one of Accurascale’s Rails special of D9009 on order and it would go well with a Hornby A4 recreated into 60009.  I’ve taken some pictures of 60009 at Peterborough taken in 2018 and you can see, it’s quite grubby on top of the boiler.  I’ve not got a picture of D9009 yet but it was the last Deltic to get haulage behind in BR days.

 

 

Edited March 14, 2021 by jools1959
Attempted to add extra pictures

[TomScrut]

46 minutes ago, adb968008 said:

No ordinarily, but there is a picture out there of a Deltic with mk3’s.. at York too...

 

I meant more could than did, but that answers it anyway!

 

47 minutes ago, adb968008 said:

To me class 68’s are Deltics reincarnated.

 

They certainly sound fantastic!

[60800]

1 hour ago, jools1959 said:

I must admit that impressed by your description of recreating A4 60009 as I really want to get one but I’m not prepared to pay the silly prices for a Hornby one.  So I think I’ll follow your lead.

 

I’ve got one of Accurascale’s Rails special of D9009 on order and it would go well with a Hornby A4 recreated into 60009.  I’ve taken some pictures of 60009 at Peterborough taken in 2018 and you can see, it’s quite grubby on top of the boiler.  I’ve not got a picture of D9009 yet but it was the last Deltic to get haulage behind in BR days.

 

Hi Jools,

  Sadly even the commonwealth collection 60009 goes for silly money now, I think the last one I saw was £270-ish! You are much better off looking for an old 60029 Woodcock and renumbering it.

 

Avoid the Great Gathering and Great Goodbye models anyway as they got them all wrong bar 4489 (which I have) so IMO they are not worth the money - main issue on both the LNER and BR models are the smokebox numbers are wrong - printed too low on the LNER and then the number plates are actually sat in the upper lamp bracket position on the BR models!

 

Here is No.9 again; 

 

 

 

And with her sisters (I forgot 60007 still needs the pipes fitting - only had it 10 years haha)

 

 

 

Just to reset the balance and put us back on topic (LNER thoroughbreds aren't too far off anyway  )....

 

 

Those who say the Bachmann Deltic is easy to lower have either done a lot of them, or are fibbing - getting D9008 to sit level once lowered was a massive pain, so I'm glad Accurascale have taken the same approach for the wheels as with DP1 here.

 

Cheers,

  60800

Edited March 14, 2021 by 60800

[TravisM]

2 hours ago, 60800 said:

 

Hi Jools,

  Sadly even the commonwealth collection 60009 goes for silly money now, I think the last one I saw was £270-ish! You are much better off looking for an old 60029 Woodcock and renumbering it.

 

Avoid the Great Gathering and Great Goodbye models anyway as they got them all wrong bar 4489 (which I have) so IMO they are not worth the money - main issue on both the LNER and BR models are the smokebox numbers are wrong - printed too low on the LNER and then the number plates are actually sat in the upper lamp bracket position on the BR models!

 

Here is No.9 again; 

 

 

 

And with her sisters (I forgot 60007 still needs the pipes fitting - only had it 10 years haha)

 

 

 

Just to reset the balance and put us back on topic (LNER thoroughbreds aren't too far off anyway  )....

 

 

Those who say the Bachmann Deltic is easy to lower have either done a lot of them, or are fibbing - getting D9008 to sit level once lowered was a massive pain, so I'm glad Accurascale have taken the same approach for the wheels as with DP1 here.

 

Cheers,

  60800

As I have the new Hornby W1 in BR late crest on order, maybe I should do a tender swop as well to get a up to date version of 60009 

[adb968008]

Now I dont want to cause a panic....

 

 

But...

 

[classy52]

3 minutes ago, adb968008 said:

Now I dont want to cause a panic....

 

 

But...

 

 

I see the purple one wasn't very popular...

[adb968008]

32 minutes ago, classy52 said:

 

I see the purple one wasn't very popular...

Some people just have no taste.

purple... its like Pink 66’s...every decade someone things of a mingy colour and daubs it on a loco.

 

[No Decorum]

Some people have no taste. Imagine covering a Deltic with blue paint with no attempt to disguise the slab-sidedness of the beast with a horizontal stripe or band of any kind. I think it looks grand in purple with a grey stripe. It’s not in the least like a pink 66.