James Hilton Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 6 hours ago, clarkea1 said: Will it be possible to build in EM or P4? Thanks Alastair Theoretically yes, although I haven’t tried it. There is space, but you may need to replace the Romford wheels for P4. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Hilton Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 6 hours ago, Gordon A said: Will the belt drive and small flywheel be included? Yes, the Clayton will only be available complete with motor, belt drive, flywheel and wheels included. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Were these locomotives used at other sites away from Devonport, and when were they introduced? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Hilton Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 41 minutes ago, PenrithBeacon said: Were these locomotives used at other sites away from Devonport, and when were they introduced? Built 2000, specifically for Devonport. Since then Clayton have built larger but visually similarly styled units for Cross Rail and Ford. I chose the smaller unit to start with as it appealed to me, and has a certain cuteness to it... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Thanks, a bit late for me. Changing topic, what is the wheelbase/wheel diameter of the Spud used in the Hibberd? I ask because Branchlines do Spuds with P4 wheels and they might do this one too. Cheers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cornelius Posted September 15, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, PenrithBeacon said: Thanks, a bit late for me. Changing topic, what is the wheelbase/wheel diameter of the Spud used in the Hibberd? I ask because Branchlines do Spuds with P4 wheels and they might do this one too. Cheers It's the 24.5mm wb / 10.5mm wheel version. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
decauville1126 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 1 hour ago, cornelius said: It's the 24.5mm wb / 10.5mm wheel version. SPUD's are dead easy to change to P4 - I've done loads -, and 12mm wheels are really needed for the Planet loco. If doing so then omit the packing plate and the buffers nicely come back near enough to the 3ft 6in centre height. Standard 2mm axles and soldering extension wires onto the pickups if using Gibson plastic-centred ones. There's enough rock in the axle slots to help out by giving a bit of compensation also. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkea1 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 On 15/09/2020 at 18:25, James Hilton said: Theoretically yes, although I haven’t tried it. There is space, but you may need to replace the Romford wheels for P4. Thanks James, it was confirmation that there was room between the frames that's key for me - happy to sort the wheels :-) Cheers Alastair 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Hilton Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 The Ruston 165DE is the latest kit in the Planet Industrials range that Steve and I are developing and was the result of an accidental realisation that the wheelbase of the Hornby W4 Peckett seemed to be a match to the prototype... The 165DE was available in both a flat front and later sloped front cab style. The former is available as a kit from Judith Edge. The 165 was also available in both 0-4-0 and 0-6-0 as well as hydraulic and electric drive. The hydraulic units had a jackshaft drive arrangement, whereas the electric did not - so to make things simple and minimise the work required on the Hornby donor chassis we've opted for just the DE model. It follows the usual Planet Industrials (EuroNG / NP / 6point5 / James Hilton!!) style of a 3D printed core, to which the chassis is firmly attached using the original mounting point combined with a fret of etched nickel silver parts that form the details and overlay. The body features re-cessed panels where the etched components sit, and goes together very easily. The prototype has thrown up a few things that need adjusting, as well as a beefier mesh on the front grill which didn't survive the etching process. I plan to work through these changes and update the etch artwork in October, so there is potential for a pre-Christmas release with this one... I've also got the parts to finish the Greenhithe Peckett and I've a ton of Peckett cabs for the standard kit here to work through and prepare for sale - more on that next week. In the meantime, more soon... 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Hilton Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 A few weeks ago I finished off the Clayton 25t, well apart from a MU hose and some wipers, and the construction has allowed for some adjustments in production design, so the kit will be finalised in the coming weeks... I decided it would be nice to grab a shot or two on Mollington Road, rather than Pont-y-dulais. The inset track suits the prototype, and has more of a feel of the Devonport dockyard where these pair call their home. The model is finished with some custom transfers I designed based upon photos of the prototype after it's refurbishment in 2007. The glazing and transfers have really finished it off nicely. The wasp stripes aren't quite right, but were done by hand using 2mm wide masking tape cut using my usual technique of a glass sheet, metal rule and sharp blade. The couplings fitted are Smith's screw link - the prototype has a cover over these, and lower buffers for use in the dock-yard, these will be provided in the kit, but I've fitted the screw link. One thing I need to adjust and include is provision for an NEM mount, although the long buffers (as per prototype) may mean normal tension lock couplings aren't quite long enough. Anyhow, all that remains on my model are those few details and a very light touch weathering. More soon... 18 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
49395 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Another option for an earlier Andrew Barclay prototype would be this one: https://ribblesteam.org.uk/exhibits/steam/andrew-barclay-1598-1918-efficient/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Simon Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Hi, Been interested in the Clayton 25T Shunter since I saw it in the WOR News thread, but those photos make it even cuter. I think I’ll have to get one to use as back up back up yard shunter! Simon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Hilton Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Thanks Simon - yes, it's a cute, if slightly ugly little prototype. I'm sure it would serve you well. Mike - not sure if we'll do a fourth Barclay cab, I've been sent details of this style before, I've pencilled it in for 2021. If our new cab, the Pensnett style one does well, then I'll look at it quicker... In the meantime, with the Peckett post-date out the door, the second version of this kit is going to be a little more involved. The prototype has been painted and weathered, and once I've added the new parts (cab rear hatch and modified step design) to the etch the parts will go into production... I took a few photos, some 'studio shots' to use in the publicity material. These cruel close ups show a few blemished in the weathered finish I need to revisit, but for now they're good enough to illustrate the instructions for the kit. I've finished my own model as 'Hornet' as the last standard gauge industrial steam engine working in the area, locally at Bersham, just south of Wrexham. There are differences, Hornet had a home made chimney (very characterful but damn ugly) a home made cut out on one side of the cab roof to increase door way headroom, and a hatch on the back of the cab (which I dislike)... in later years Hornet also sported wasp striped buffer beams but I chose to not represent these either as I already have locomotives in the fleet with this feature. The cab re-uses the original glazing for the rear spectacles, and glue-n-glaze has been used for the front windows (still slightly wet in these photos, hence why one appears 'white'). The weathering was applied by airbrush and then before it had dried was removed with a sponge dampened with white spirit. This left dirt in the corners and a gentle streaking. A second coat of dirt was then applied to soften the effect and blend things together. Once touch dry I dry brushed the edge of the foot plate and steps with gun-metal. Finally a photo showing Hornet with the non-cut down version of the kit - which shows that the roof line is lower even in the centre of the roof. There is another version I'm considering, there were example with a standard profile roof, dropped to this height. This meant the cab upper sheets were like Hornet, but the lower sheet was taller. This would be an easy mod, as it re-uses a lot of parts from both designs... perhaps one for 2021. In the meantime, if you'd like me to weather and re-finish your own model, any scale, any prototype, get in touch for personal proposal. For now, more soon... 10 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted October 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 10, 2020 James, both the Peckett modifications are great! I also like the idea of using a sponge to remove the sprayed-on weathering. Is there any particular type of sponge that you would recommend, please? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 On 09/10/2020 at 09:25, James Hilton said: I've finished my own model as 'Hornet' as the last standard gauge industrial steam engine working in the area, locally at Bersham, just south of Wrexham. There are differences, Hornet had a home made chimney (very characterful but damn ugly) a home made cut out on one side of the cab roof to increase door way headroom, and a hatch on the back of the cab (which I dislike)... in later years Hornet also sported wasp striped buffer beams but I chose to not represent these either as I already have locomotives in the fleet with this feature. A little secret about Hornet's chimney. Most of it's rim was car body filler. It had a huge dent in it. I know that as I filled it when we did the cosmetic restoration in the early 1980s. Used a big tub of Isopon car filler sculptured to shape. No idea whether they've replaced it or not on it's restoration. I would assume so. You can see the dent in the two photos of it when stored. https://preservedbritishsteamlocomotives.com/peckett-sons-works-no-1935-hornet-0-4-0st/ Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Hilton Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/10/2020 at 20:22, Captain Kernow said: I also like the idea of using a sponge to remove the sprayed-on weathering. Is there any particular type of sponge that you would recommend, please? I use all sorts, currently just the grey foam that comes in Twelve Commandments stock boxes - I chop it up into small hand sized pieces with a tapered end to a point. It works well - stolen from somewhere else, although I forget where! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Hilton Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Good news - everything bar the Peckett cabs is back in stock at the Narrow Planet marketplace - the cabs should be another week or so... In the meantime, Steve and I have been working on a new website - just a holding page so far: https://planetindustrials.co.uk We love industrials, not just the locomotives but the wider railway environment. We've got a few ideas to include beyond the obvious pages on our kits and models, but would love to hear what you'd like to see - you can comment here, Facebook or get in touch via email. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Disaster today. My Hibberd Planet kit, 98% finished and looking fabulous needed a quick repair where the cab side & front etched had pulled apart in one corner. I mistakenly used a large bulldog clip across the whole cab rather than a smaller one just in the corner. 30 seconds later and I had a pile of crushed cab. gutted. hopefully it can be straightened out. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Hilton Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, black and decker boy said: Disaster today. My Hibberd Planet kit, 98% finished and looking fabulous needed a quick repair where the cab side & front etched had pulled apart in one corner. I mistakenly used a large bulldog clip across the whole cab rather than a smaller one just in the corner. 30 seconds later and I had a pile of crushed cab. gutted. hopefully it can be straightened out. Ooops... If we can help drop us an email, as it lookslike you've done a great job otherwise... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, James Hilton said: Ooops... If we can help drop us an email, as it lookslike you've done a great job otherwise... Thanks James. I'm going to cool off before I try and straighten out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted November 20, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 20, 2020 Looks like its been under a low bridge. Hope you manage to fix it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 On 20/11/2020 at 11:54, James Hilton said: Ooops... If we can help drop us an email, as it lookslike you've done a great job otherwise... A big thank you to Planet Industrials who have been able to make available a new set of cab etches. Repairs will be underway after Xmas to resurrect this little beauty. I'm looking forward to their new kits to build in 2021 too having found this one fun to do and the end result was superb (before my hamfistedness) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5050 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Tempted by the low cab conversion, especially to make a representation of 'Hornet' which I remember at Bersham along with 'Shakespeare' the RSH. I take it you can supply 'Hornet' nameplates? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cornelius Posted December 27, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 27, 2020 19 hours ago, 5050 said: I take it you can supply 'Hornet' nameplates? The kit will include HORNET and GREENHITHE nameplates, plus works plates and Railway Executive registration plates. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted November 15, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 15, 2023 Hi James & Steve, Is the Pi Ruston 165DE kit still available, please? (can't find it on the website). Thank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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