KR Models Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 59 minutes ago, AY Mod said: Had you told Mike Wild they were though? No, we hadn't. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium JDW Posted December 7, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 7, 2020 On 03/12/2020 at 21:06, Pre Grouping fan said: Ah, I only watched the silent version of that video before it was fixed. The printed review says on the water. Just skimming through so apologies if I've missed anything, but it could well be that they expected the models to be 'on the water' by the time the printed version came out, especially if the review was done a few weeks beforehand. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted December 7, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 7, 2020 Just now, JDW said: Just skimming through so apologies if I've missed anything, but it could well be that they expected the models to be 'on the water' by the time the printed version came out, especially if the review was done a few weeks beforehand. ..but why did HM make a categoric statement about it when they were in no position to do so. All they had to do is add the words "expected to be" or similar. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium JDW Posted December 7, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 7, 2020 I don't know, I was just thinking out loud, I may be way off the mark. They may have had the wrong information. They may have just slipped up. They may have expected that to be the case and gone with it so it would be 'right' when the mag came out. They may have expected that to be the case when they wrote it and forgotten to amend it before going to press. From experience, I do tend to make sure I qualify things like "expected to" or "xyz says that" when I write features [for an entirely unconnected publication] but occasionally miss it or forget to update something. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted December 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 7, 2020 Much ado about nothing. 2 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 3 hours ago, JDW said: Just skimming through so apologies if I've missed anything, but it could well be that they expected the models to be 'on the water' by the time the printed version came out, especially if the review was done a few weeks beforehand. Also (I may be wrong here) I've always heard that magazines have models shipped out to them shortly before they hit the shop shelves. If that's the case, then it would be a likely assumption that if a sample was sent to them then the rest was in transit. Either way, they delay isn't the end of the world. It's most likely a little mix up or error in communication between KRM and HM. The models looks great and they will be in the UK soon. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted December 7, 2020 Moderators Share Posted December 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, MGR Hooper! said: I've always heard that magazines have models shipped out to them shortly before they hit the shop shelves. In some cases yes, but far fewer than you would think. 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 9 hours ago, AY Mod said: In some cases yes, but far fewer than you would think. Thanks for clarifying that. I was always under the impression that manufacturers shipped in samples for review shortly before the main batch. Probably read it about it and made that assumption. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 18 hours ago, MGR Hooper! said: Thanks for clarifying that. I was always under the impression that manufacturers shipped in samples for review shortly before the main batch. Probably read it about it and made that assumption. In my experience only ONE manufacturer flies in samples for review ahead of the main batch arriving by ship. Different companies handle review samples in different ways and there are no blanket, hard and fast 'rules'. The company which does fly in samples does so because they like the publication of the review to coincide with the bulk delivery arriving in the shops. Years ago they used to supply pre-production samples for review but there were always conspiracy theorists who thought these models had been tweaked to be better than the ones that were sold in shops. In fact, they were usually a bit worn and knocked about having probably been mailed to several other publications first! Equally, we are very aware that it simply isn't economical for some of the newer, smaller companies to do that, or to do any more than loan samples for a short time. I'm sure I speak for all when I say the model press have always been hugely grateful for the generous treatment we receive with the supply of review samples, especially as we don't always heap glowing praise on them! (CJL). 6 2 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KR Models Posted December 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2020 As a company we have been more transparent than most. We might not get everything right with our approach, but hey, we're learning. Covid-19 has caused us a few unexpected issues and we are aware that the delivery timeline is out of our hands, but we are keeping everyone informed as to the latest developments, so the GT3 is coming, we should have solution soon on the shipping issue, and hopefully a delivery schedule too. We can't thank everyone for the support that we have received over the life of the GT3, it has been a massive learning curve with much more to learn as future projects take shape. But we are here to stay, unless you listen to some on here. We have received huge support and compliments from outside of RMWeb. The GT3 is looking very good, performs very well, sounds fantastic, and everyone will be very happy when it arrives. We are still doing better than the mainstream manufacturers who still haven't produced some models due 'to unforeseen circumstances'. This is our first model and it's going to be great. If it takes a little longer to make it great, then that is how it has be. Keith. 11 3 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D9001 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 KR have announced on their Facebook page, “GT3 is en route to the UK” :-D 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2021 All that's needed is a ship name and folk will then have an idea when they'll be at the UK port. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
69843 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 If it is of any help, the photo they shared on Facebook was a Maersk Line ship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KR Models Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 If it's any help at all, the photo is a stock photo and not the ship our shipment is actually on. 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 10, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2021 10 hours ago, 69843 said: If it is of any help, the photo they shared on Facebook was a Maersk Line ship. Not really as they have several routes from the Far East and they serve different UK ports with slight variation in journey times. The best way to track it - where it is possible to track it - is with the name of the ship which KR will no doubt know at some time because it should be shown on the Customs documentation even if they haven't been advised the name of the vessel by the forwarding agent. The only place it will then be difficult to find it is in the Indian Ocean (unless you've paid for extra facilities on a tracking site) and a couple of spots on the Mediterranean coast. That apart you can watch it virtually all the way from China to the UK port as some of us have done in the past with consignments for other UK customers and as we've been doing very recently with a consignment for a 'Model Rail' commission. definitely a rather different form of 'trainspotting' 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 9 hours ago, The Stationmaster said: Not really as they have several routes from the Far East and they serve different UK ports with slight variation in journey times. The best way to track it - where it is possible to track it - is with the name of the ship which KR will no doubt know at some time because it should be shown on the Customs documentation even if they haven't been advised the name of the vessel by the forwarding agent. The only place it will then be difficult to find it is in the Indian Ocean (unless you've paid for extra facilities on a tracking site) and a couple of spots on the Mediterranean coast. That apart you can watch it virtually all the way from China to the UK port as some of us have done in the past with consignments for other UK customers and as we've been doing very recently with a consignment for a 'Model Rail' commission. definitely a rather different form of 'trainspotting' I think the key phrase here is "will know at some time" in other words not necessarily told at the time of shipping. No doubt when KR know which ship is carrying the goodies they will tell us. Patience until then is called for. Having said that it isn't entirely unknown for a consignment to sit for a while on the dockside waiting for the details needed for the customs declaration to actually reach the consignee...... Les Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted January 11, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2021 51 minutes ago, Les1952 said: Having said that it isn't entirely unknown for a consignment to sit for a while on the dockside Unfortunately it can be even worse than that. This was after a rather 'bumpy' night at sea, some 250 boxes went over the side that night just from this one ship. It's a real reminder to check the insurance! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 11 hours ago, chris p bacon said: Unfortunately it can be even worse than that. This was after a rather 'bumpy' night at sea, some 250 boxes went over the side that night just from this one ship. It's a real reminder to check the insurance! Stacking boxes 8 high and relying on twistlocks & lashings - no further comment required - on this thread anyway... Mark 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 12, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 12, 2021 It is relatively easy to work out even without the ship's name which only really adds confirmation and firms up planned dates. The average shipping schedule time from the Chinese ports nearest to where models are made to a destination UK port (which varies from line to line and route to route) is between 30 and 40 days. So shipped by Saturday 11 January suggests the ship should reach its UK destination by 16 February or possibly as late as 25 February then allowing a few days either side of those dates because we don't know that actual date and port of departure. it is of course equally possible that the ship sailed before KR announced that the goods were aboard and enroute to the UK. Add a couple of weeks (the usual interval) to the date the ship arrives in order to estimate the arrival date at the distribution point and then allow time for distribution etc process. You can thus roughly calculate when the models might be arriving with end customers if all goes according to the way these things usually happen and provided there are no undue delays for any reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 4 hours ago, The Stationmaster said: It is relatively easy to work out even without the ship's name which only really adds confirmation and firms up planned dates. The average shipping schedule time from the Chinese ports nearest to where models are made to a destination UK port (which varies from line to line and route to route) is between 30 and 40 days. So shipped by Saturday 11 January suggests the ship should reach its UK destination by 16 February or possibly as late as 25 February then allowing a few days either side of those dates because we don't know that actual date and port of departure. it is of course equally possible that the ship sailed before KR announced that the goods were aboard and enroute to the UK. Add a couple of weeks (the usual interval) to the date the ship arrives in order to estimate the arrival date at the distribution point and then allow time for distribution etc process. You can thus roughly calculate when the models might be arriving with end customers if all goes according to the way these things usually happen and provided there are no undue delays for any reason. In other words don't get excited before March..... Les 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 96701 Posted January 12, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 12, 2021 Sod the name of the ship. I want to know the name of the on board cook so that I can confirm that the crew won't starve to death en route, thereby delaying the arrival of my GT3 bought with my hard earned money. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted January 12, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, 96701 said: Sod the name of the ship. I want to know the name of the on board cook so that I can confirm that the crew won't starve to death en route, thereby delaying the arrival of my GT3 bought with my hard earned money. This was posted in another thread and I realise it's off topic. But spare a thought for those on the Merchant ships who are struggling with being at sea for in excess of 12 months and with little prospect of seeing home for some time, so we can enjoy our hobby (among other things) https://www.theguardian.com/environment/gallery/2021/jan/11/all-at-sea-half-a-million-seafarers-stranded-by-the-pandemic-in-pictures 3 11 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted January 12, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 12, 2021 I have never imagined the mercantile marine as being a soft life, but some of this is pretty tough stuff. And around the affluent world there are cruise ships moored offshore awaiting an uncertain future, with crews on board. Covid has all sorts of victims, and so many ways of making people suffer without actually catching it. 3 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 96701 Posted January 12, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 12, 2021 I was only being flippant. I didn't expect the COVID Police to turn up. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KR Models Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I'm not going to take part in this. It's like seeing a kid trying to find where the parents hid their birthday present. Keep guessing. 2 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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