RMweb Gold zr2498 Posted April 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, boxbrownie said: Didn’t I read it has that feature? Yes, already included. KR Models are probably feeling flushed with success. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Keith J said: Apparently this level of detail is set to become bog standard in the future. And, no doubt, will be met with a round of thunderous applause. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 This thread really is scraping the bottom now. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wainwright1 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Michael Hodgson said: This thread really is scraping the bottom now. Have they supplied a toilet brush for this ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted April 10, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 10, 2021 Order book for the very limited run of BR Blue GT3 has now opened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted April 10, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 10, 2021 19 minutes ago, Hilux5972 said: Order book for the very limited run of BR Blue GT3 has now opened. 10 days too late for jokes like that.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGP Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 I think the blue GT3 should be numbered GT4. That way you could run two and keep the history books clean. Roco have recently released a loco in a fictitious livery and given it an in depth fictitious history in their catalogue and advertising. A few years down the line, and history could get corrupted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted April 10, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 10, 2021 35 minutes ago, SGP said: A few years down the line, and history could get corrupted. All history is corrupted. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Is anybody still waiting for their GT3 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 4 hours ago, SGP said: I think the blue GT3 should be numbered GT4. That way you could run two and keep the history books clean. Roco have recently released a loco in a fictitious livery and given it an in depth fictitious history in their catalogue and advertising. A few years down the line, and history could get corrupted. Don't think that would be possible without excess expense retooling the cabside as the number plate on the cab side looks to be moulded onto the valence/cab component. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
97403_Ixion Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 5 hours ago, Bilbo said: Is anybody still waiting for their GT3 ? Yes, I am too... 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagonmaster Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Has anyone who has their GT3, tried changing the tender buffers for round ones yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 21C123 Posted April 10, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 10, 2021 1 hour ago, 97403_Ixion said: Yes, I am too... Still waiting in NZ.... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGP Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 Quote Has anyone who has their GT3, tried changing the tender buffers for round ones yet? An quick and easy fix is to punch out two plasticard discs with a paper punch and stick them onto the oval buffers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drotto Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 I am still waiting as well. I did message KR about it and got the reply "we are despatching as quick as we can". 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
locoman462 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Can anyone confirm if GT3 ran with a one man or two man crew. I assume that a two man crew (driver and secondman) was more likely in the early 1960s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 As the loco was never officially a BR loco and only ran test trains I’d be highly surprised if the loco ever ran with less than two crew in the cab. I believe that it may have been set up for single man operation, but again, considering union opposition to single manning at the time, it’s unlikely it hauled any trains that way. Perhaps yard moves etc. but that would be about all 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGP Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Quote Can anyone confirm if GT3 ran with a one man or two man crew. I assume that a two man crew (driver and secondman) was more likely in the early 1960s. The single manning agreement for loco hauled turns didn't get passed until 1966. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted April 12, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Edge said: As the loco was never officially a BR loco and only ran test trains I’d be highly surprised if the loco ever ran with less than two crew in the cab. I believe that it may have been set up for single man operation, but again, considering union opposition to single manning at the time, it’s unlikely it hauled any trains that way. Perhaps yard moves etc. but that would be about all As it was only ever run on test trains it probably had a minimum of three people in the cab and most likely four (Driver, Secondman, Traction Inspector, and at least on EE rep/technician. Technically, apart from tending the boiler, it could have been single manned on some train working turns as the Manning Agreements stood at that time but inevitably there would have been debate in respect of sight lines when carrying out such movements as attaching to trains or moving around yards which under the 1957 Manning Agreement would have seen a a dscussion at the Manning Committee about double manning when doing such things and adding in the boiler (albeit not required during the summer of course) it would probably have been worked by double manned turns for convenience in covering the awkward parts if it had ever entered traffic on BR. This was not an unusual situation where only a small part of a turn needed double manning but it was more convenient and reliable to diagram it for the whole turn. PS The 1965 Manning Agreement extended single manning of locomotives to partially Fitted and Loose Coupled freight trains (subject to various restrictions and limitations). It also increased, from the 1957 Agreement, the aggregate driving mileage permitted in a single manned turn working diesel or electric locomotives on passenger trains. Edited April 12, 2021 by The Stationmaster 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted April 12, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, The Stationmaster said: As it was only ever run on test trains it probably had a minimum of three people in the cab and most likely four (Driver, Secondman, Traction Inspector, and at least on EE rep/technician. Maybe that explains the bog... drivers seat, secondmans seat, and a Toilet seat needed for the only technical guy who really knew what kind of an explosion a gas turbine could produce at random... url link.. Edited April 12, 2021 by adb968008 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D9001 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, locoman462 said: Can anyone confirm if GT3 ran with a one man or two man crew. I assume that a two man crew (driver and secondman) was more likely in the early 1960s. Can’t imagine Aslef would ever have allowed less than two crew then. if Buckton was involved he would probably have insisted on six Edited April 12, 2021 by D9001 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted April 13, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 13, 2021 15 hours ago, D9001 said: Can’t imagine Aslef would ever have allowed less than two crew then. if Buckton was involved he would probably have insisted on six Buckton was a full time union official (probably an Area Organiser?) at that time and didn't become Assistant General Secretary (to A.E Griffiths) until 1963). However personalities would have been irrelevant - what counted was what was in the 1957 Manning Agreement and any decisions made by the Manning Committee if the loco was ever discussed there (which I doubt as it never entered traffic and only ever worked test trains). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgeconna Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Nice one, Who's that knocking at the door and all that! Its the Postie Straight in from Brexitville with no hassle! Tks KR! 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgeconna Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Just had a play at lunch time and notice the Footplate on booth sides has buckled due to fit? any one have similar of try a fix, I dont fancy trying to get a bead of Superglue under that, one slip and the finish will be ruined other wise runs and sounds very nice! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagonmaster Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Georgeconna said: Just had a play at lunch time and notice the Footplate on booth sides has buckled due to fit? any one have similar of try a fix, I dont fancy trying to get a bead of Superglue under that, one slip and the finish will be ruined other wise runs and sounds very nice! Yes, I had this on mine too. Superglue is a no no, you'll ruin it, as you say. I used small dabs of Glue'n'Glaze, which is a PVA type glue. This will stick it, but not ruin anything if it ends up in the wrong place! Also, if you press the bump, it might appear elsewhere, if you see what I mean. So, like I had to do, you may have to loosen the chequer plate towards the front and re-flatten it having applied glue. If you can get a weight on it to keep it flat whilst drying, it will help. I used a spare flat weight out of a carriage. Hope that helps. Enjoy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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