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7 hours ago, Phil Parker said:

 

On what grounds? We are talking 12v, not an uncommon voltage in the hall that weekend, nor a dangerous one.

 

 

 

Grounds? Grounds?  Safety Officers don't need grounds.  All they need is yet another excuse to justify their positions..... ;)

Too late - I'm gone :jester:

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Just to clarify a very pertinent point.  In a posting I mentioned that the stand had a non-running model on display.  I had not read any reports of anyone seeing the model run and did a search and there were no returns of anyone witnessing the model run.  At no point did I state that the model was not motorised nor did I demand to see a running model.  I actually praised the model for the stage of development carried out and the innovative design such as the electrical connection to the tender.  Read the transcript as they say in the U.S.,  at no point did I criticise the model.  If no reports of witnessing the model running then motorised or not it is a non-running model until it is verified to be operational.  An administrator criticised me demanding proof of my assertion that it was a non-running model,  so I requested a response to anyone seeing the model actually run.  The administrator stated that a video would be made of an interview with the manufacturer later that day and a rolling road test run would be viewed.  The test run never occurred.  The assertion implied that I had stated that basically the model was not motorised.  At no point did I make that assertion.  At no point did I demand to see a running model and yet the cult groupies have passed snide,  undeserved remarks with a poor attempt at humour.  

 

The manufacturer has provided a factory test run video of the model prior shipping to the UK and I stated in response to Andy's posting of a video being provided that I would not criticise the model's running ability and thus contrary to an attempt at humour by certain responses will make no comment, positive or otherwise.   At no point did I criticise the model,  nor make an assertion that the model did not have a drive train and my response of a non-running model was based on the fact that at the time no witnesses had come forward verifying the status of the model.  Perhaps,  if instead of non-running I could have substituted "static" but then the term static has a definite connotation of being non-motorised.

 

I feel that the company missed a golden opportunity as if the model could have been shown running then it would have boosted sales.  Keith has explained that the model was received just prior the exhibition, shipped directly from China and no chance had been available to test the model prior the display,  so I presume the decision was made to display the model in a non-running state.   The model on display apparently is an all axle driven model and in the interview with Andy,   Keith details an exhaustive test procedure to verify the reliability of the drive.  As production will not commence until after resumption of work after the Chinese New Year holidays,  then the company has several months to test the drive and determine the pros and cons of a single axle or all axle drive mechanism.  

 

 

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9 minutes ago, GWR-fan said:

 the cult groupies have passed snide,  undeserved remarks with a poor attempt at humour.  

 

That is quite an insinuation....

groupie

noun

INFORMAL

a young woman who regularly follows a pop group or other celebrity, especially in the hope of having a sexual relationship with them.

 

I'll have you know that Phil is not my type.......I make no comment about Andy..

 

As for poor humour, that's about as good as it gets.

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After watching the video. the usual youtube selection of other videos appeared.

 

@Andy Y why are you interviewing 2 blokes and an emu at the MRC

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This just a suggestion, is there a chance to have an on/off switch for the tail Lights on the Tender/fuel tank? 

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56 minutes ago, rorz101uk said:

This just a suggestion, is there a chance to have an on/off switch for the tail Lights on the Tender/fuel tank? 

Some decoders offer this. It is ridiculous to have rear lights showing on a loco hauling a train, yet there are many locos which offer no alternative, especially on DC.

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3 minutes ago, Oldddudders said:

Some decoders offer this. It is ridiculous to have rear lights showing on a loco hauling a train, yet there are many locos which offer no alternative, especially on DC.

A pair of snips (or a soldering iron) work well sorting that problem, it also solves the issue of the model having ridiculously bright tail lights whereas on the real thing they were barely visible. 

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From KR Face book page for non Face book users. I was there on Saturday and did not see this. Just copyed the photo.
You do have cab lights.
John

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8 hours ago, woodenhead said:

After watching the video. the usual youtube selection of other videos appeared.

 

@Andy Y why are you interviewing 2 blokes and an emu at the MRC

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_2019_11/image.png.7acb53f16fb47f677ce313d7a62edda0.png

 

Apparently the emu is more environmentally friendly than the dmu

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1 hour ago, oleander said:

From KR Face book page for non Face book users. I was there on Saturday and did not see this. Just copyed the photo.
You do have cab lights.
John

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_2019_11/gt3.jpg.d8d601e1a8a4ba81c005a27da87ed7fb.jpg

 

I seriously doubt that the cab lights of the prototype were as bright as that - but then, IMHO, that is the fundamental problem with all lighting on model rolling stock.

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

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21 minutes ago, cctransuk said:

I seriously doubt that the cab lights of the prototype were as bright as that - but then, IMHO, that is the fundamental problem with all lighting on model rolling stock.

 

Agreed. If the cab light was that bright it would impair viewing outside...including warning signals. I suspect that it would be bright enough to see the gauges, not read a novel or darn socks.

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It would be more likely the dials would be illuminated and no cab lights on when running in the dark.

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On 25/11/2019 at 13:12, Phil Parker said:

 

On what grounds? We are talking 12v, not an uncommon voltage in the hall that weekend, nor a dangerous one.

 

Finding a 12V battery if you don't know the area might be harder, especially with the deadline of setup time. Then you've got to rig up cables, but again, deadlines. Oh, and you didn't bring any tools for the job so you'll need to borrow/buy some.

 

Then you have it working on the stand and someone gets to spend all day running the thing back and forth (yes, rolling road, but you've got to find one and buy/borrow one) for every new person who comes along and says, "Can I see it work then?" rather than talking to the customers. By the end of the show, the pre-production model is well thrashed and you haven't had the chance to carry out the planned controlled testing on gradients and with stock.

 

Volts are not the issue. It's the amps that are dangerous if folk are talking about car batteries, the most common 12v form.

 

And then there are the issues around potential acid leak, overheating and even explosion.

 

There are 12v batteries available for alarm systems that would be suitable but certainly not easy to find at short notice.

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KR Models had their first full EP of their highly appreciated GT3 Gas Turbine on display over the course of the weekend at the Warley National Model Railway Exhibition 2019.
This stunning model features a 21 pin socket, 5 pole motor, cast chassis, etched grills, sprung buffers, working cab and directional lighting. The model will also be available Fitted with DCC Sound. 
In this video we take a closer look at the first EP on the KR Models stand (Please note this is still an EP so there maybe things still to tweak).
Hope you enjoy!

 

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17 hours ago, cctransuk said:

 

I seriously doubt that the cab lights of the prototype were as bright as that - but then, IMHO, that is the fundamental problem with all lighting on model rolling stock.

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

Dear John,

No doubt!

That is (yet another) benefit of DCC, if you use a decent quality decoder, you can lower the voltage supplied to such auxiliaries. Problem solved by tweaking a CV or two.

Otherwise, use a quick dab of yellow paint, that will soon sort such lighting issues out.

Cheers,

John.

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18 minutes ago, Allegheny1600 said:

Dear John,

No doubt!

That is (yet another) benefit of DCC, if you use a decent quality decoder, you can lower the voltage supplied to such auxiliaries. Problem solved by tweaking a CV or two.

Otherwise, use a quick dab of yellow paint, that will soon sort such lighting issues out.

Cheers,

John.

 

John,

 

I am steadfastly of a DC / no lights / no sound disposition - so a pair of wire snips or a soldering iron are the only 'tweaking' tools that I need !

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

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3 minutes ago, cctransuk said:

 

John,

 

I am steadfastly of a DC / no lights / no sound disposition - so a pair of wire snips or a soldering iron are the only 'tweaking' tools that I need !

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

Fair enough!

The simplest solution is usually the best.

Cheers,

John Edge.

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On a Farish 37 I bought I disabled the (overbright) lights with just a couple of small pieces of paper slipped between the body/chassis contacts. The advantage over snipping is that if I sell the model I can simply slip the bits of paper back out again.

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I'm half tempted to get one, paint it BR blue and call it 'City of Aberdeen'. 

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On 25/11/2019 at 08:27, GWR-fan said:

Last years exhibition had a brochure and this year a static model

 

That's bloody good going if you ask me. Consider how many years it took certain other projects just to get some CAD done, what Keith has achieved in the timeframe is commendable.

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IIRC tomorrow (30/11/19) is the last day to pre-order one of these locos, I was initially wanting an N gauge one, but I also heard that the N gauge one had barely any interest.

 

So does the last day mean I have to pay in full tomorrow if I order one or is there still an installment plan available? I need an installment plan as I have the Accurascale Class 92, Accurascale Class 37 and Cavalex 91 or pre-order also.

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10 minutes ago, MGR Hooper! said:

IIRC tomorrow (30/11/19) is the last day to pre-order one of these locos, I was initially wanting an N gauge one, but I also heard that the N gauge one had barely any interest.

 

So does the last day mean I have to pay in full tomorrow if I order one or is there still an installment plan available? I need an installment plan as I have the Accurascale Class 92, Accurascale Class 37 and Cavalex 91 or pre-order also.

One would assume pay in full but I would contact KR Models direct to confirm. Although I emailed them to upgrade from analogue to sound and haven't had a response yet so.. 

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54 minutes ago, MGR Hooper! said:

IIRC tomorrow (30/11/19) is the last day to pre-order one of these locos, I was initially wanting an N gauge one, but I also heard that the N gauge one had barely any interest.

 

So does the last day mean I have to pay in full tomorrow if I order one or is there still an installment plan available? I need an installment plan as I have the Accurascale Class 92, Accurascale Class 37 and Cavalex 91 or pre-order also.

The installment payments were only if you signed up to crowdfund at the start. 

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7 hours ago, MGR Hooper! said:

IIRC tomorrow (30/11/19) is the last day to pre-order one of these locos, I was initially wanting an N gauge one, but I also heard that the N gauge one had barely any interest.

 

So does the last day mean I have to pay in full tomorrow if I order one or is there still an installment plan available? I need an installment plan as I have the Accurascale Class 92, Accurascale Class 37 and Cavalex 91 or pre-order also.

Yes you would have to pay infull .

Stage 1 cad ,done. Stage 2 Tooling, done. Stage 3 manufaturing about to start.

Kr models want people to pay before moving on to the next stages. So as we are now about to Start Stage 3 the final stage thats Full payment. Unless KR does something special for you.
John

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