Bachmann stand at Warley Show

[Andy Y]

I think they could extend to tea/coffee and a few digestives !

 

Nah, you'd just get some people moaning the tea was cold by it arrived and the digestives had the wrong number of dimples.

[adb968008]

Bachmann lounge.....second time I’ve been. Same little layout, exclusive look at 121/117/159 not much else.

I think they could extend to tea/coffee and a few digestives !

Why stop there ?

Sofa, beer and bar maids (sorry bar people to be PC),

We could have a stage with the locos rolling past and we could all hold up numbered score cards ?

 

Edited November 26, 2018 by adb968008

[Fenman]

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I think this is symptomatic of us 'never having had it so good,' we are suffering from the fatigue of a surfeit of new models and our threshold has risen accordingly.  This has also resulted in an even shorter attention span, meaning the big players like Bachmann and Hornby who produce models across the board (locos, coaches, wagons, units, road vehicles, RTP buildings, scenic devices, controllers etc etc) are bound to appear somewhat 'safe' compared to the single-issue parties showing off a bauble and a unicorn.

 

If a modeller is looking forward to a high spec Class 158, 117 or Class 24 with headcode box, Freightliner flats or Tartan Arrow CCT, to name but a handful of excellent new and forthcoming Bachmann releases, do you expect them to take the approach that I can do without these now, because 'Ooooh look, there's a puppy on the XYZ stand.'  The role played in the long game by these substantial organisations tends to be overlooked or derided to an extent; be careful what you wish for...

...

 

I'm with you, but only up to a point. I was terrifically excited when the 158 was announced - although I've forgotten how many years ago that was. 6? 7? I had thoughts of a fantasy junction between an unelectrified Fenline and a (survived) M&GN, crossing each other at a (South) Lynn Parkway. 158s and 159s would be the main equipment. Whatever the merits of my mad idea (I am a bit of a daydreamer), but even I find it hard to sustain enthusiasm for such a fantasy over such a long period...

 

And now... well, Heljan has announced a 7mm Clayton, and an 03, and Darstaedt has a new range of non-corridor Mk1s coming out, and, well, I have a new fantasy involving a surviving M&GN and Norwich City, and that now sounds more exciting than my 158 fantasy. So I found myself looking at Andy's glorious photos of the 158, but picking holes - in that great, lumpen connector between the two coaches, for instance. I figured I was actually looking for excuses to cancel my ancient pre-orders, as the excitement just isn't there any more.

 

Yes, that probably makes me a lousy human being. But this is meant to be a hoby, for enjoyment, not a test of who has the most patience.

 

In so many aspects of life, timing is important. I know many of the manufacturers have had problems, and some of those will have been beyond their own control - but hobbies are all about pleasure and emotions. And the days of me enjoying seemingly interminable foreplay are long gone.

 

Paul

[Steamport Southport]

Why stop there ?

Sofa, beer and bar maids (sorry bar people to be PC),

We could have a stage with the locos rolling past and we could all hold up numbered score cards ?

 

 

Why stop there?

 

What we need is strippers.  

 

Oooh! Dirty!!  

 

https://www.emodels.co.uk/modelstrip-plastic-model-paint-stripper-modstr01.html

 

 

 

Jason

[rob D2]

Nah, you'd just get some people moaning the tea was cold by it arrived and the digestives had the wrong number of dimples.

True, if they took a Costa express machine with them and put some sofas in they’d make a few quid I reckon

[stewartingram]

True, if they took a Costa express machine with them and put some sofas in they’d make a few quid I reckon

 

If they just sold 1 Costa, they would make a few quid. Aptly named product.

 

Stewart

['CHARD]

Yes, that probably makes me a lousy human being. But this is meant to be a hoby, for enjoyment, not a test of who has the most patience.

 

In so many aspects of life, timing is important. I know many of the manufacturers have had problems, and some of those will have been beyond their own control - but hobbies are all about pleasure and emotions. And the days of me enjoying seemingly interminable foreplay are long gone.

 

 

Agree there - the discretionary modellers can and will move onto the next thing.  The corollary being, of course, that someone encounters the EPs and models in development for the first time - be they a returnee to the hobby or a newcomer - and take the empty place in the pre-order queue, so broadly speaking everybody's happy nowadays. 

 

True, if they took a Costa express machine with them and put some sofas in they’d make a few quid I reckon

 

[Chuckling] I've not checked, but there may also be restrictions on what traders are permitted to do, bearing in mind the presence of hall catering.  I'm not for a minute suggesting that free tea and biscuits would be an issue, however, do we want to slosh hot water, sugary milk and crumbs over precision engineered models?  I suggest not.

[D9020 Nimbus]

For whatever reason, Bachmann seem to have far more difficulty getting models out "on time" than almost any other manufacturer—despite the fact that they own their own production facilities! Hornby suffer some delays but not as much as this.

 

Some of this is, I believe, their tendency to announce very early in the development process. Almost every year they promise that in future they'll announce projects when they're nearer to being ready, almost every year they still announce as early as ever. The delays even affect reissues and reliveries.

 

Contrast that with Roco. They announced an HOe Austrian 2095 diesel at this year's Nuremberg Toy Fair, including a sound-fitted version, and it's already available. Meanwhile the Austrian firm Dolischo, which specialised in commissioning models from Bachmann, had announced HOe class 699.0 and 699.1 steam engines back in 2014; not only have they not appeared, but Dolischo have ceased trading, blaming the delays.

[43179]

So I found myself looking at Andy's glorious photos of the 158, but picking holes - in that great, lumpen connector between the two coaches, for instance.

 

Paul

Ah, not just me then...I love the lengths that manufacturers are going to now with dmu underframes - you could say they’re actually more interesting exercises in modelling than loco underframes - as there’s engines, driveshafts, gearboxes, fuel tanks, batteries exhaust pipes and lots of other gubbins going on under there - but it’s a bit of shame the effect is spoilt by these new power conducting couplings. I know the logic behind them and they have to be robust , but there’s no denying they look pretty hideous. The 158 looks stunning and I can’t wait to get my hands on one - but those couplings will have to go! Hopefully the next development in models will be a smarter more discreet way of having conductive couplings - through the corridor connectors perhaps?

Jon

Edited November 27, 2018 by 43179

[apollanaut]

I dont do n gauge myself, but i spent quite a while looking at it, its a very nice model with a lot of detail and parts for its size.

N modellers i think will be well happy with it., it looked pretty impressive in the cabinet yesterday, wouldnt mind a oo one like that.

Agreed - I'm usually happy with Hornby's older upgraded models (such as the Black Five and the Fowler 2P 4-4-0, but I simply haven't been able to go ahead and buy their Stanier 8F model. It just looks too "plasticky" and toy-like to my eyes.

 

I invested instead in Bachmanns WD model to fill the big 2-8-0 freight loco slot in my collection. This is also an older model, but IMHO it still looks fantastic and manages to capture the essence of the hard-working prototypes. On top of that, it's performance on my layout has been exemplary; quiet, smooth, reliable and capable of easily hauling a realistic load at scale freight train speeds (very slow for UK steam-era goods trains!). The valve gear is particularly well-done, and is a joy to watch when the loco is in motion.

[The Johnster]

Freight trains hauled by WD 2-8-0s were particularly slow, the various companies' own designs being preferred for part-fitted or fully fitted work because they rode better, so the Austerities tended to by allocated to class H or K trains which did not make much more than 25mph tops, creeping from loop to loop to keep out of the way of the faster stuff which was pretty much everything and anything else.  

 

But they were the backbone of BR's heavy class 8 freight work in the 1950s until the 9Fs appeared in bulk, a bit rough and ready and with the reputation of being a cloud of steam with a clanking noise in the middle, but they could pull well enough and were bombproof reliable.  Some sheds' allocations were more or less entirely of this one class, which means they were the sole feature of many railwaymen's working lives.  There seemed to be a competition over who could turn out the filthiest and most scruffy looking one, and they were so ugly that they achieved their own sort of beauty as a result.  I don't think anyone liked them, but they earned respect; they were intended to last 5 years and most managed 20, of being thrashed and neglected.

[Steamport Southport]

According to an ex fitter I used to know, they loved the WDs at Aintree Shed. Mainly because their arrival coincided with the withdrawal of the Fowler 7F 0-8-0s which were apparently hated with a vengeance.

 

 

 

 

Jason

[Phil Bullock]

Bachmann must be doing something right as I saw some people camping out on hearing their new Hall release is coming in January.

 

 

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As long as the kite flying has no deep significance ???!!! :-)

 

Phil

Edited November 28, 2018 by Phil Bullock

[The Johnster]

According to an ex fitter I used to know, they loved the WDs at Aintree Shed. Mainly because their arrival coincided with the withdrawal of the Fowler 7F 0-8-0s which were apparently hated with a vengeance.

 

 

 

 

Jason

 

So, not so much loved as less hated...

[tomparryharry]

Nah, you'd just get some people moaning the tea was cold by it arrived and the digestives had the wrong number of dimples.

 

That means you'll have (GASP!) Lincoln biscuits. Anyway, cold tea is not the problem. it's weak tea that is the real scourge of our age. Young George (who knew how to make proper tea at Bachmann) went out to buy biscuits when the 94xx project started.... We haven't seen him since.....

 

Co-Co Knutt

Edited November 28, 2018 by tomparryharry

[159220]

Am I going mad, or post Warley last year was there a video from Bachmann HQ on Youtube showing the class 90 EP and demonstrating the pantograph server? If anyone can direct, I would like to watch.

[Huw Griffiths]

Bachmann lounge.....second time I’ve been. Same little layout, exclusive look at 121/117/159 not much else.

 

I think they could extend to tea/coffee and a few digestives !

 

Nah, you'd just get some people moaning the tea was cold by it arrived and the digestives had the wrong number of dimples.

 

Either that or they'd be moaning because they're not offering Stollen (what's wrong with a delicious cake, traditionally served in certain parts of the European mainland towards the end of the year?) or even glasses of a decent Port (a nourishing beverage, named after somewhere else on the European mainland).

 

Seriously though, decent fare like that would probably cost enough to justify their "club" dues.

 

Meanwhile, talking of cost ...

 

 

True, if they took a Costa express machine with them and put some sofas in they’d make a few quid I reckon

 

Not from me, they wouldn't. I'd much prefer a decent coffee - like that most agreeable filter stuff they sell in my local Lidl.

 

 

If they just sold 1 Costa, they would make a few quid. Aptly named product.

 

I must admit I'd wondered how they acquired their name - even if explanations along these lines might not necessarily be "the real thing" ... . (Of course, other suggestions are also available.)

 

 

[Chuckling] I've not checked, but there may also be restrictions on what traders are permitted to do, bearing in mind the presence of hall catering.  I'm not for a minute suggesting that free tea and biscuits would be an issue, however, do we want to slosh hot water, sugary milk and crumbs over precision engineered models?  I suggest not.

 

I'm sure there are restrictions - but they don't seem to have stopped a number of exhibitors at trade shows offering refreshments on their stands.

 

Ultimately, I suspect it might all come down to "L.s.d.". For legal reasons, I should point out that I'm not referring to certain "naughty substances" which might have acquired a certain notoriety a number of years back ... .

 

 

Huw.

[Coppercap]

That means you'll have (GASP!) Lincoln biscuits. 

 

They've got rivets. Lots of rivets.

[SDJR7F88]

A look at some of the latest models and prototypes from Bachmann Europe, filmed on their Roadshow Stand at the Warley National Model Railway Exhibition 2018.

Models featured, included the all new NER E1/J72 Class 0-6-0T, British Rail Class 24/1 and Ransomes & Rapier 45 Ton Breakdown Crane, plus more, as well as many other exciting developments cross the range.

Hope you enjoy!

[No Decorum]

Excellent and informative video, Callum. Many thanks. You have a very steady hand!

[DRS Crewe On A Mission]

Hi everyone, 

 

I was unable to attend Warley last weekend. Would anyone be able to answer a few questions please? 

 

• Were their any CADs, updates or estimated delivery date of the Class 20/3s?
• Were their any updates on when the GWR & Northern Class 150 DMUs will be arriving? 
• Was their a delivery date for the recently announced Limited Edition 37025 Rep Edition model?

Thank you very much in advance. 

 

Kind Regards, 

 

Danny. 

[Craig1989]

I asked about 37025 and they said earlier probably bout April may time as there move went better than expected

[DRS Crewe On A Mission]

I asked about 37025 and they said earlier probably bout April may time as there move went better than expected

 

Thank you for the reply and for letting me know. I appreciate it. 

 

That's brilliant to hear, I was expecting late Summer or Autumn. 

[Compound2632]

It was disappointing that there was no evidence of progress on the 1P 0-4-4T, given the airing the research work for the product had in Andy York's video at the beginning of the year. 

[adb968008]

The thread itself is about the Bachmann Stand.

 

The stand itself Ive found to be a professional trade stand with a huge amount of informative promotional displays, Bachmann have lead the way in bringing this to model railway exhibitions and to the public, where as usually these are seen for industry trade exhibitions.

 

However in the last year weve seen Hattons and Accurascale join the circuit with equally professional displays, I like it, as it separates the traders from the manufacturers and gives excellant show case for their products, that you dont see on a traders stall. With fewer high street retailers, gives a chance to see a very nice display.

Edited December 1, 2018 by adb968008