RMweb Premium rab Posted November 22, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 22, 2018 Anyone know of a 2-10-0 being overhauled at the South Devon Railway. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaz Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 HMM. Those five axles have two different diameter wheels so are not from the same engine - unless it's a very odd machine indeed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brack Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 It has quite a short boiler for a 2-10-0 too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 (edited) Hmm, bit of a mixture there and on the adjoining road. There's obviously three axles from an LNER Pacific, the green one on the right being a crank axle. The other five drivers could be from a 9F, although there does appear from the photo to be two sets of flange less wheels, the boiler not being related. The set of smaller wheels are from a trailing truck or tender due to the outside bearings. Edit, maybe I've stuck my neck out too far in assuming the larger wheels are from an LNER Pacific, going purely by the colour. I don't know which one it would be, unless possibly from Blue Peter? Edited November 23, 2018 by great central Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 (edited) The boiler looks like a Bulleid one to me. Green wheels. Where are Blue Peter's? I'll also add I doubt the other wheels are off a 9F. Seem too large to me and the wheels on the left have the wrong type of balance weights. Worth bearing in mind there is a wheel tyre press at the SDR so the flangeless ones are probably in for new tyres. Jason Edited November 23, 2018 by Steamport Southport Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilMortimer Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 (edited) Front driving wheelset has eccentrics on the axle, so not from a 9F or WD, which were both outside cylinders with walschaerts VG. Thinking ex GW loco for that wheelset at least. As mentioned above, looks like at least 2 sets of wheels from different locos, with an unrelated boiler in the picture. Edited November 23, 2018 by PhilMortimer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted November 23, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2018 Anyone know of a 2-10-0 being overhauled at the South Devon Railway. That's going to be something of a "lumpy" runner when it's put back together. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonside1563 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 I know what this is, it will be the wheelsets for a new build project based on a modern version of Webb's 3 cylinder compound 'Experiment' class. The larger wheels will be for the low pressure inside cylinder and the smaller ones for the two high pressure outside cylinders. I believe the designers have overcome the problems the Webb locos had with the slip eccentrics for the inside cylinder by having two independent sets of valve gear controlled by their own steam reverser from one common lever in the cab! From what I recall this will follow Webb practice of naming classes by being called 'Unbelievable' 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted November 23, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 23, 2018 Edit, maybe I've stuck my neck out too far in assuming the larger wheels are from an LNER Pacific, going purely by the colour. I don't know which one it would be, unless possibly from Blue Peter? If all the green wheels belong together, it's a three cylinder engine with divided drive (note the large crankpins on the far left set), at least six coupled wheels and is that a single eccentric for inside Walschaert's gear on the crank axle? They aren't BFB wheels so it isn't a Bulleid Pacific. Not a lot it could be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaz Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 If the green wheels are all from the same machine then it's a three cylinder job with divided drive (crank pins on the wheels not on the crank axle) and derived valve gear (no eccentrics on the axles). Hmm. New build B17? (no don't be silly!). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimbus Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 If the green wheels are all from the same machine then it's a three cylinder job with divided drive (crank pins on the wheels not on the crank axle) and derived valve gear (no eccentrics on the axles). Hmm. New build B17? (no don't be silly!). They also have shallow 'bevelled' rims, which were LNER post-Gresley practice. There appear to be dressing marks on the inside of the tyres between alternate spokes. LNER practice was to fit securing rivets in these positions. I'd say the A2's set, being re-tyred. The Nim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 If the green wheels are all from the same machine then it's a three cylinder job with divided drive (crank pins on the wheels not on the crank axle) and derived valve gear (no eccentrics on the axles). Hmm. New build B17? (no don't be silly!). There are two new B17s. The one that is likely to succeed is at Llangollen with virtually a completed chassis. But I don't think they've made the wheels yet. http://www.b17steamloco.com/news-and-events/construction-progress The other scheme looks a bit "pie in the sky" IMHO. I wish them well, but it's a terrible name though. http://www.engine61662appeal.co.uk/project.html Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted November 23, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 23, 2018 If the green wheels are all from the same machine then it's a three cylinder job with divided drive (crank pins on the wheels not on the crank axle) and derived valve gear (no eccentrics on the axles). Hmm. New build B17? (no don't be silly!). No, there does appear to be a single eccentric on the crank axle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classsix T Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 There are two new B17s. The one that is likely to succeed is at Llangollen with virtually a completed chassis. But I don't think they've made the wheels yet. http://www.b17steamloco.com/news-and-events/construction-progress The other scheme looks a bit "pie in the sky" IMHO. I wish them well, but it's a terrible name though. http://www.engine61662appeal.co.uk/project.html Jason Splitters! C6T. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaz Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 They also have shallow 'bevelled' rims, which were LNER post-Gresley practice. There appear to be dressing marks on the inside of the tyres between alternate spokes. LNER practice was to fit securing rivets in these positions. I'd say the A2's set, being re-tyred. The Nim. Seems spot on to me. The Peppercorn A2s certainly had divided drive. My facetious suggestion of a new-build "Sandy" was no more than wishful thinking. Unfortunately! Chaz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaz Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 There are two new B17s. The one that is likely to succeed is at Llangollen with virtually a completed chassis. But I don't think they've made the wheels yet. http://www.b17steamloco.com/news-and-events/construction-progress The other scheme looks a bit "pie in the sky" IMHO. I wish them well, but it's a terrible name though. http://www.engine61662appeal.co.uk/project.html Jason Crikey! I wasn't aware of these schemes. One of my favourite locos when I was very small and used to be taken to Liverpool Street station with Dad on Saturday mornings. Chaz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 (edited) Doesn't the SDR have equipment for either tyre turning or tyre fitting? That'd explain the random wheelsets. 926s wheelsets are away somewhere for turning, perhaps those are the green ones - not knowing much about ashtrays that is only supposition. Edited November 23, 2018 by Boris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted November 23, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 23, 2018 Doesn't the SDR have equipment for either tyre turning or tyre fitting? That'd explain the random wheelsets. It does have these facilities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobthesod4479 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) There are a couple of threads on the Rail UK forums on the B17 and another pie in the sky schemes, all of which i have the greatest respect for except the B17 61662 group!!! This is the B17 one https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/b17-new-builds.173578/ Edited November 26, 2018 by bobthesod4479 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted January 10, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) Where's Green Arrow? Could the green wheels be from that? Those smaller wheels definitely have a GW look about them. Edited January 10, 2019 by rodent279 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hadyn Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Not Green Arrow, I walked past it 5 minutes ago and the wheels are still attached. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted January 10, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2019 The boiler looks like a Bulleid one to me. Green wheels. Where are Blue Peter's? Jason Blue Peter? I still own £5 worth of shares from the 60’s (I would guess it was) from when there was an appeal on the TV show Blue Peter.......they sent me a certificate as well........although that’s gone long ago I guess, I wonder how much my £5 is worth now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Doesn't the SDR have equipment for either tyre turning or tyre fitting? That'd explain the random wheelsets. There should be a full set of class 40 wheels there soon, they are getting quite a good reputation now for wheel set work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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