RMweb Premium it's-er Posted November 27, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 27, 2018 Albion Yard has a couple of photos of the forthcoming Peco Parkside 13t hopper wagon, on Peco's stand at Warley this last weekend, here https://albionyard.wordpress.com For those looking in future days, they are under the heading 'More thoughts from Warley 2018' dated 27 November 2018. Did anyone else get photos of the 13t hopper wagon? I hope the hopper component is a one piece mould, so there is no need for awkward joining of several pieces together - did anyone ask about this at Warley? John Storey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45568 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Looks good, I would like about six of these for starters! The ARP 'box looks good too. Cheers from Oz, Peter C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinWales Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Remember quizzing Richard Hollingsworth about this before PD was sold to Peco, and that I believe was the intention of making it a one piece moulding Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
26power Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 A possible upgrade for Parkside kits would be to make them NEM coupling ready. A logical place would be to start with a new kit. In this instance forget about trying to mould a tension lock coupling in plastic (as shown in the picture linked to), include an NEM mount as an integral but optional part in the kit and include in the bag a couple of Bachmann tension lock couplings. Or I suppose they could make their own couplings as a “standard” spare part to add to their range and include in their kits. I would think that providing standard couplings would be a good selling point for a kit, as it would increase the likelihood that the finished model would run in a train of RTR vehicles. Much in the way that I would think that the one piece underframe and bogie mouldings that Cambrian supply in some of their kits probably removes the angst of providing a square and free running underframe. And at the same time is quicker to complete. And removes the need for at least three hands to get a Parkside underframe together! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) A possible upgrade for Parkside kits would be to make them NEM coupling ready. A logical place would be to start with a new kit. In this instance forget about trying to mould a tension lock coupling in plastic (as shown in the picture linked to), include an NEM mount as an integral but optional part in the kit and include in the bag a couple of Bachmann tension lock couplings. Or I suppose they could make their own couplings as a “standard” spare part to add to their range and include in their kits. I would think that providing standard couplings would be a good selling point for a kit, as it would increase the likelihood that the finished model would run in a train of RTR vehicles. Much in the way that I would think that the one piece underframe and bogie mouldings that Cambrian supply in some of their kits probably removes the angst of providing a square and free running underframe. And at the same time is quicker to complete. And removes the need for at least three hands to get a Parkside underframe together! They already make NEM mounts for them. Have done for quite a few years. https://www.hattons.co.uk/315603/Parkside_Models_PA34_NEM_Coupling_mounting_points_to_allow_NEM_couplings_to_be_fitted_to_non_NEM_rol/StockDetail.aspx No to having them provided in the kits as to many of us they are a waste of money as we don't use them. Jason Edited November 28, 2018 by Steamport Southport 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signaller69 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 The 13t hopper looks good. I noticed in the December Railway Modeller (p1067) mention that going forward that Parkside kits will come with Modelmasters waterslide transfers at no extra cost, which seems a good idea - the sample shown has 4 running numbers and alternative lettering supplied. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Excellent, that's another piece of scratchbuilt Shiite I can consign to the bin , along with the coke hoppers ,PCV's ,etc We really are having it good atm ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rope runner Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Glad to see that it is progressing. I recently acquired a fair scratchbuilt example on ebay, but I'll be getting a Parkside one too. Paul A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axlebox Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 ...just my luck after 10 years of putting a rake of these together along comes a kit! I'm about to start on a batch of Conflat Ls with the containers...just in case any manufacturer out there has any plans for making them.... 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 What scale is this about? I've missed such an explanation. I am expecting 7mm Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PMP Posted December 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 5, 2018 What scale is this about? I've missed such an explanation. I am expecting 7mm Paul The version shown at Warley, and the only one I’m aware of, is 4mm scale. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) The version shown at Warley, and the only one I’m aware of, is 4mm scale. Shame, I understood the 7mm version was in advance of the 4mm when Parkside relinquished it, and have had complex discussion with the Peco designer about the internal door appearance. Not an easy puzzle, but we managed to solve it. Historical railway modelling is difficult for these firms. Paul Edited December 6, 2018 by hmrspaul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PMP Posted December 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 5, 2018 Re the potential 7mm version, I’m unaware of one, that doesn’t mean there isn’t one in development! Brgds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
26power Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Crack on then! Some Conflat L's would be nice, either as a kit or RTR. Obviously already the Mousa Models kit: http://mousa.biz/fourmm/wagons/br_wagons4.html ...just my luck after 10 years of putting a rake of these together along comes a kit! I'm about to start on a batch of Conflat Ls with the containers...just in case any manufacturer out there has any plans for making them.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) ...just my luck after 10 years of putting a rake of these together along comes a kit! I'm about to start on a batch of Conflat Ls with the containers...just in case any manufacturer out there has any plans for making them.... You can tell the wee bairns at home. She's been showing you how to use the camera facility on her phone. Don't deny it. Good to see Peco isnt wasting all the research material originally supplied to Parkside... PS I guess your pic must have been taken just before the branch closed. That would be just after they had demolished the coal merchants cabin and set fire to the good shed? Edited December 9, 2018 by Porcy Mane 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted December 13, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 13, 2018 There is an update about this in the current Railway Modeller. Design work is complete on both 4 and 7 mm kits. A 3d print of the 4mm version is shown. This is interesting as it implies the use of CAD in the design process, probably a first for a Parkside kit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Downer Posted December 25, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 25, 2018 What traffic were these wagons used for, and where? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 What traffic were these wagons used for, and where? They have been used for almost anything and could turn up almost anywhere! Coal, Iron Ore, Stone and Serpentine have all been carried. Does anyone know what Serpentine was used for as I understand it is named after its appearance of serpent/lizard skin. Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 (edited) Does anyone know what Serpentine was used for as I understand it is named after its appearance of serpent/lizard skin. Used decoratively, architecturally (like marble) and in jewelry. Also sometimes used in manufacture of asbestos type materials. Bedrock of the South Lizard peninsular, where it is usually found with copper ores and steatite (soaprock). Mullion Harbour walls (where Serp was shipped from) was partially built and repaired from Serpentine. From our point of view occasionally shipped by rail from Helston. P Edited December 25, 2018 by Porcy Mane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rope runner Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Hi All, The Dave Bradwell kit instructions for this wagon mention that some examples had "Iron Ore" painted on their side in a small black square. Does anyone have a photo of a 13Ton hopper with such a label? While I've seen them in mixed-hopper rakes on iron ore flows, I have never seen this type specifically labelled as such. Any notes, photos etc by PM or otherwise would be useful. Thank you Paul A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Does anyone have a photo of a 13Ton hopper with such a label? While I've seen them in mixed-hopper rakes on iron ore flows, I have never seen this type specifically labelled as such. There's a few been published in the specialist illustrated wagon books down the years. There's this one on the coal drops at Glaisdale. (Linked from the RCTS archive). 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) What traffic were these wagons used for, and where? but simply to justify the joy of building the kit ........................... mine will be on its way for scrap somewhere on the South Coast near Soton along with HUO's, MEO's, MDO's, Coke hoppers, Pig Iron opens, Ingot Moulds (ex MSO's) and pretty much any other interesting unfitted BR wagon model I fancy in a special "One movement only" consist over the (by now 1976) fully fitted SR ........................................ also an excuse for running 2 Diesel Brake Tenders. Porcy Mane, on 25 Dec 2018 - 15:46, said: Used decoratively, architecturally (like marble) and in jewelry. Also sometimes used in manufacture of asbestos type materials. Bedrock of the South Lizard peninsular, where it is usually found with copper ores and steatite (soaprock). Mullion Harbour walls (where Serp was shipped from) was partially built and repaired from Serpentine. From our point of view occasionally shipped by rail from Helston. P Ahhh - that explains those in the background of pictures at Liskeard (??) which I had identified and dismissed as impossible cos "I thought they only worked in the Midlands & NE" Edited December 31, 2018 by Southernman46 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Ahhh - that explains those in the background of pictures at Liskeard (??) which I had identified and dismissed as impossible cos "I thought they only worked in the Midlands & NE" Glad to see I wasn't the only person to see them at Liskeard.; in my case, in the summer of 1975. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rope runner Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 There's a few been published in the specialist illustrated wagon books down the years. That's just the ticket, thank you for the photo link. Glad I asked, as otherwise I would have gone for right in the centre of the hopper. Paul A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 I would have gone for right in the centre of the hopper. You would have been spot on. There were some branded that way too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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