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Some more of the lighting after spending all day wiring yesterday.

 

I just have to add the marquee lights when I've built them and another campfire the other side of the tents, then that's all the lighting finished. 

 

I am planning on something rather ambitious with aircraft. I planned to add two Sopwith Camels chasing off a Fokker Triplane over the layout. I have explored various ways of suspending the aircraft and have decided on transparent cake supports through the wings to the backboard.

 

I mentioned my aircraft idea to someone and he criticsed the idea because they won't really be flying! Does anyone have people who walk on their layout, eat, talk, drive the locos or actually work? No they don't, so I'm  not too concerned about that. However, I did feel that I could make it more original and have sourced some micro engines that I might just be able to squeeze in to the aeroplanes. They could be too big and I won't know until I actually try and fit them. I have managed to find a way to avoid batteries as they would run out after 10 minutes (these are RC engines) and step the power up to 12v form 3.75v I think it was originally. Of course they may be too noisy if I ever get them running :)

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Well it's been a while. I have been working on a test track of 00 and 009 track with a small photo area for 009 locomotives.

 

I thought about my only train set as a child and decided to research it. My mother gave mine to another family who were poorer than us! I got my set at Christmas 1973 and I was 7 years old. It was the Hornby Freightmaster set which was featured in edition 19 of the Hornby magazine. I have not got this very old set again and the locomotive runs but it quite noisy. It is features in the video at the bottom.

 

On my layout I have been working on paining a brown crane non military traction engine into the same military green traction engine that is produced. Both are actually the same type and we in service in France and Belgium in WWI. I have spent most time however fitting tiny electric engines into quite small WWI aircraft. That was a challenge but I have two working over the layout. The only train related work is to convert some rolling stock into a Royal Engineers mobile workshop. It's not finished but it's getting there. I have a petrol tank coming to modify into the War Office version produced in WWI.  I will then have to weather it.

 

 

 

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On 04/02/2019 at 07:52, Model Railway Noob said:

Some more of the lighting after spending all day wiring yesterday.

 

I just have to add the marquee lights when I've built them and another campfire the other side of the tents, then that's all the lighting finished. 

 

I am planning on something rather ambitious with aircraft. I planned to add two Sopwith Camels chasing off a Fokker Triplane over the layout. I have explored various ways of suspending the aircraft and have decided on transparent cake supports through the wings to the backboard.

 

I mentioned my aircraft idea to someone and he criticsed the idea because they won't really be flying! Does anyone have people who walk on their layout, eat, talk, drive the locos or actually work? No they don't, so I'm  not too concerned about that. However, I did feel that I could make it more original and have sourced some micro engines that I might just be able to squeeze in to the aeroplanes. They could be too big and I won't know until I actually try and fit them. I have managed to find a way to avoid batteries as they would run out after 10 minutes (these are RC engines) and step the power up to 12v form 3.75v I think it was originally. Of course they may be too noisy if I ever get them running :)

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You might have to rethink your lighting as open fires, lights from windows, etc would be a big no-no at night. Even during the day fires, etc would be a drawcard for German observers in planes or balloon to inform the German Artillery

 

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Peter    

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On 03/03/2019 at 22:40, Peter Beckett said:

You might have to rethink your lighting as open fires, lights from windows, etc would be a big no-no at night. Even during the day fires, etc would be a drawcard for German observers in planes or balloon to inform the German Artillery

 

Cheers

 

Peter    

 

Hi Peter,

 

Thank you for taking the time to post. I see your point but I will explain my rationale.

 

I was a combat medic and so I am very familiar with the tactical considerations of soldiering. I had to learn to put in a canula and put up a drip in total darkness. If we really needed to use a light, it would be red, covered and as close to the casualty as possible. However times were very different when I was a medic compared to WWI which was mostly a static war as you will know.

 

With regard to the CCS, I am depicting a day time scene in WWI 6-10 miles from the front line. I have visited the location, have the WWI map and read the war diary. There was an experiment with one CCS that was located 4 miles from the front but it was shelled too often (?German confusion about the new site) and the senior officers were concerned that nurses (females), would be killed and that would be bad for morale and PR. The idea was abandoned very soon after becoming operational, even though it was saving more lives and the nurses wanted it to continue - we now understand this as the 'golden hour'.

 

In WWI, casualty clearing stations were lit with electric lighting and certainly had coal and wood fires for heat - possibly oil too. Electric lighting can be seen miles away at night and especially through canvas as you can imagine. The respective CCSs had different arrangements but in a recent first hand account I read, if a German aircraft was heard overhead at night, the officer in charge would blow his whistle three times and staff would distinguish lights and fires where possible because of an understandable fear of bombing. That's assuming they all heard his whistle though! The aircraft however was already overhead and of course the pilot would have seen the hospital lights from miles away, unless there was loads of low cloud cover. Furthermore, the Germans knew exactly where the hospitals were located. They typically had a large red cross painted on the ground and occasionally on one tent instead. Both sides had observations balloons aloft (one was at Boisleux until the hospital CO asked them to move as he thought they were shelled when the target was actually the balloon site).  The CCSs were large installations and impossible to miss and very distinctive trains with lots of red crosses were arriving daily. Both sides flew over each others' lines several times a day and recorded new positions as they appeared. I have recently finished a pilot's first hand account flying a Sopwith Pup in WWI.

 

From WWII onwards, the tactical considerations changed and just about every building had a red cross on it (Red Star of David for Israeli forces and the Red Crescent for Muslim countries) and they don't try to hide them because it makes no sense. Having said that medics were armed from WWII onwards for self protection and to protect their casualties.

 

For the most part in WWI, the enemy aircraft at night were bombers and were largely after ammunition dumps and this was known at the time and is well documented. A nurse's first hand account wrote, "the Boche flew over again searching for ammo dumps". This was an almost daily occurrence and the CCS staff were very used to it. Counter battery shelling usually passed overhead on their way to targets and the British return fire. Both sides knew where their targets were. Sometimes German pilots became disorientated and bombed hospitals. It was never thought to be intentional because apart from being a war crime, there were usually German casualties being treated and they wouldn't have wanted to kill their own troops. Incidentally I come from a village that had an officers' PoW camp in WWI. Although Zeppelins were seen overhead, no one expected the village to be bombed because the Germans knew the camp was there. The village was only ten miles from Rolls Royce.

 

Soldiers in the front line also lit fires but of course tried their best to conceal smoke and light. Lots of soldiers died from the fumes in trying to do so. Each side knew each other's positions and a look at any trench map of either side during WWI illustrates this very well (I have a large collection of British and German trench maps). You could die at any time in the front line trench from shelling but you could also die from trench fever and hypothermia. Life was a miserable existence and clothing largely inadequate for the conditions. Heat went a long way to boost morale where it was possible so soldiers took the risk and searched for fuel to burn. 

 

Although I am the first to admit that I am relatively new to model railways and have a lot to learn, I have been researching the Great War for a number of years and have a large library of books. All of what I do on this layout is thoroughly researched where it is possible. Having said that, I wouldn't describe me as a prototypical modeller. I do know my WWI history though. 

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Nice bit of information Noob, the layout's really looking good and I like the traction engine. I'm really enjoying this topic :)

Steve.

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On 05/03/2019 at 05:50, sb67 said:

Nice bit of information Noob, the layout's really looking good and I like the traction engine. I'm really enjoying this topic :)

Steve.

 

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Hi everyone.

 

Well I've been covering myself with paint and pigment all week. I have built another aircraft (Fokker Triplane) and have the last one on the way.

 

I weathered the Royal Engineers workshop and painted the tank and truck. I thought I really should have something running in 00, as I realised that I have never showed anything other than narrow gauge. The track and loco really need a clean but you will get the idea.

 

I have three narrow gauge locos to build and some rolling stock. Unfortunately whilst I have gathered the parts for a different approach to the marquee tents, I haven't actually started yet. I have several more tanks, ambulances and armoured cars to build before I get anywhere near to soldiers. Once I've done that, the tents need more work.

 

 

 

 

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On 15/03/2019 at 08:57, luke the train spotter said:

The lighting adds a lot of atmosphere and depth to the layout. I love the church pews visible. The 009 stock is also a great addition too. 

 

Thank you Luke. It was worth the effort putting the pews in. I have made some trellis tables and may show these in one the marquee tents when I finally get around to them. I have just added the last aircraft - an American Spad XIII but haven't tested the engine yet.

 

I have four other narrow gauge locos to build and two rolling stock items then it's more tanks, armoured cars, ambulances and people.

 

Thanks everyone else for the support.

 

 

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