RMweb Premium figworthy Posted July 3, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 3, 2021 21 hours ago, Stubby47 said: Size of shed needed depends on how many parts the land rover is in... Sort of. Back when I was a student, our next door neighbour was a MG fan (*). In his "standard sized" garage, he had 3 MGs, one a part restored (chassis + body), plus two in bits (chassises hung off the roof, engines under the bench, not sure about the bodies). * IIRC six in total, three old ones in bits, two relatively new MGBs and his wife drove a MG Metro. Adrian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted July 3, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 3, 2021 1 hour ago, figworthy said: Back when I was a student, our next door neighbour was a MG fan (*). In his "standard sized" garage, he had 3 MGs, one a part restored (chassis + body), plus two in bits (chassises hung off the roof, engines under the bench, not sure about the bodies). The trouble with Land Rovers is that all the mechanical parts are big and heavy. The body panels are normally straight, flat sections, so they can store easily, but everything else is big, bulky and heavy. Al. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullie Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Alister_G said: The trouble with Land Rovers is that all the mechanical parts are big and heavy. The body panels are normally straight, flat sections, so they can store easily, but everything else is big, bulky and heavy. Al. And the lubricants which seem to have a talent for leaking and leaving a puddle wherever you park. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mick Bonwick Posted July 3, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 3, 2021 45 minutes ago, mullie said: And the lubricants which seem to have a talent for leaking and leaving a puddle wherever you park. Personal hygiene mate, personal hygiene! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippel Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 I've heard it described as marking their territory... Paul. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold lezz01 Posted July 3, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 3, 2021 (edited) The only experience I have with Land Rovers is from my army days and I have to say that none of them leaked anything from anywhere unless they were damaged in some way and they were fixed immediately so I don't recognise that behaviour in Land Rovers. In fact the only vehicle that leaked anything in my Bty was MY 432 which had a persistent oil leak on the left hand main oil seal on the steering box. It drove me mad it went through 4 steering boxes in 2 years and broke down on exercise more than I care to remember. REME could do nothing with it! In the end it was sent back to the manufacturer where it turned out to be the drive sprocket spindle housing being out of true which was stressing the oil seal. So much for QC huh. Regards Lez. Edited July 3, 2021 by lezz01 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortuga Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 11 minutes ago, Hippel said: I've heard it described as marking their territory... Paul. I think that’s just used with old cars in general. Both my VWs ‘mark their territory’, the camper less than the bug admittedly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Alister_G Posted July 3, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2021 (edited) On 02/07/2021 at 09:43, Alister_G said: A shed containing a half rebuilt Land Rover, and all the bits scattered around. That would be a cracking little cameo for something. The idea then is to create a cameo scene with a Land Rover in a state of disrepair, being restored, inside a shed. So as a first step, we should build the Land Rover, and then we can build a suitable shed when we know what size we want. I want to portray a rolling chassis with most body panels removed. The chassis that comes with the Airfix kit shown earlier, looks like this: This is nothing like a real Land Rover chassis, which looks like this: So I abandoned the idea of using the kit chassis, and instead, made some chassis rails out of 2mm square styrene, bent to shape: A couple of hours of styrene bashing later, and I have produced this: I hope that those of you who are Land Rover enthusiasts will agree that looks better. Thanks for looking, Al. Edited February 3, 2023 by Alister_G replaced images 9 7 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 That looks better than many of the old Landrover chassis that I have seen. Projects always seem to have a new rear crossmember in red oxide, always seems to be the first job, followed by outriggers and front dumb irons. Very convincing bit of model making, you certainly know your Land Rovers! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 On 03/07/2021 at 23:11, Tortuga said: I think that’s just used with old cars in general. Both my VWs ‘mark their territory’, the camper less than the bug admittedly. Beetles tended to leak when the little alloy washers had been omitted from around the oil strainer plate, or if it had been lowered so much that the sump kept hitting the road. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Alister_G Posted July 4, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2021 (edited) Finally for this evening, I added the spring hangers, bushes and springs: and drilled the hole for the rear PTO in the rear crossmember, and added a drop plate for a tow hitch: not very clear, sorry. Then, I painted it: And here's a reminder of the scale... Thanks for looking. Al. Edited February 3, 2023 by Alister_G replaced images 6 19 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium AdeMoore Posted July 4, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 4, 2021 Brilliant bit of modelling that Al. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted July 4, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 4, 2021 Thanks Ade. Al. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Bloomin wonderful mate. I'm coming back to OO, well I was, not sure now. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold westerhamstation Posted July 4, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 4, 2021 Hi Al, a really good bit of landrover engineering that you are re creating. And just to show others how accurate your modelling is, a full frontal nude picture of my series 3 landrover lightweight before it got it's clothes back on . All the best Adrian. PS. And for the sake of decency one fully covered up, with a very large fig leaf on the bonnet. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted July 4, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 4, 2021 Thanks Adrian, lovely job on your lightweight, really nice. And very useful too, for me to sort out the engine and gearbox location on the model. Cheers, Al. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted July 4, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 4, 2021 That great model chassis reminds me of my early days with the HMG agency where part of my job was reregistering vehicles. I had a Land Rover specialist in my patch who was forever putting new chassis on crash-damaged LRs. I must have inspected and issued replacement VINs for what seems like hundreds of them. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted July 4, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 4, 2021 Fantastic Al! How did you bend the styrene for the chassis rails and get them so accurate?…..I’ll understand if it’s a trade secret 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted July 4, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 4, 2021 (edited) On 04/07/2021 at 11:17, chuffinghell said: Fantastic Al! How did you bend the styrene for the chassis rails and get them so accurate?…..I’ll understand if it’s a trade secret Not a trade secret at all, I'm pretty sure I've mentioned it before in various threads of mine. I started with two lengths of square styrene rod and bent them using fingers and smooth grip pliers by eye until I was happy with the general shape, then I pinned them to a bit of wood in exactly the shape I wanted, and stuck them in the oven on 150 degrees for ten minutes. Normally styrene is fairly springy, and thicker sections tend not to stay in the exact shape you form them into. However, styrene is a thermosetting plastic, so if you take it above a certain temperature, it will become much more pliable, and then when it cools again it becomes harder and more brittle, but stays in the shape you make it. I did this for the pipe bends on Cawdor, if you remember: Al. Edited February 3, 2023 by Alister_G replaced images 2 2 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Alister_G Posted July 4, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2021 (edited) Here's a couple of shots of the chassis in daylight. I added the battery box, which I had forgotten, and you will notice someone's replaced the rear crossmember, and the nearside bulkhead outrigger... Thanks for looking, Al. Edited February 3, 2023 by Alister_G replaced images 13 2 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium figworthy Posted July 4, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 4, 2021 On 03/07/2021 at 20:32, Alister_G said: The trouble with Land Rovers is that all the mechanical parts are big and heavy. The body panels are normally straight, flat sections, so they can store easily, but everything else is big, bulky and heavy. Al. Oh yes. In my youth, I stripped and rebuilt two of them (a IIA and a III), the second one got a chassis transplant as part of the process. With hind sight, the first one should have had one as well. This was well before the days of replacement galvo chassis and coil springs. Adrian 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted July 4, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 4, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, figworthy said: Oh yes. In my youth, I stripped and rebuilt two of them (a IIA and a III), the second one got a chassis transplant as part of the process. With hind sight, the first one should have had one as well. This was well before the days of replacement galvo chassis and coil springs. Adrian Yep, I did similar, a friend and I rebuilt his Series II in the days before you could get replacement bulkheads or anything, so we fabricated replacement parts ourselves out of sheet steel, and effectively plated the whole existing chassis with new side members and tops. Paddock Motors, which are local to me, were available for engine and mechanical parts, leaf springs and so on, but they were just in a barn at Elton, no posh office or warehouse. Al. Edited July 4, 2021 by Alister_G 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted July 4, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 4, 2021 (edited) This evening, I've been attempting to build a 2.25L petrol engine in 1/72 scale. Tricky, as you will see... It's a bit fiddly... Having got the basic shape of the engine, I added the gearbox and transfer box as well: Here they are in position on the chassis: It's not stuck in yet, as I want to paint it first. Thanks for looking, Al. Edited February 3, 2023 by Alister_G replaced images 3 11 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Bogie Posted July 4, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 4, 2021 Not trying to dampen your enthusiasm but I think you have finally gone insane. Who on earth builds a 2.25L petrol engine in 1/72 scale?! Next thing you'll be telling us it actually works! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted July 4, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, Bogie said: Next thing you'll be telling us it actually works! I'm having a bit of trouble with my little ends... And my timing... Al. 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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