RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted December 21, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2018 Join the club Al. I was cutting a piece of cork using a steel strip, when the scalpel skated over the steel, and since the only thing in the way was my thumb, I made a bit of a mess. They say that crimson lake is the colour of freshly spilled blood, so I was able to confirm that most of my locomotives were correct. Derek Well as luck would have it, I'd just put a fresh blade in, so at least it was a nice clean cut, and barely bled in the time it took to clean and dress it, so I was unable to confirm my LMS roots At least you know your blood is adequately oxygenated... or it would have been more purple Cheers mate, thanks for looking in. Al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon A Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Oi! Is Oi! a new type of vegetable? Gordon A Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted December 22, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2018 Is Oi! a new type of vegetable? Gordon A No, it's a short Japanese fish. Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold westerhamstation Posted December 22, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2018 Hi Al, I first thought it was a picture of some pigs in blankets, good to see you carried on modelling regardless of your injury. All the best for Christmas and the New Year. Adrian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted December 23, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2018 Hi Al, I first thought it was a picture of some pigs in blankets, good to see you carried on modelling regardless of your injury. All the best for Christmas and the New Year. Adrian. Do you know, I wondered why I woke up this morning chewing my finger... Mmmm, bacon! Cheers mate, all the best, Al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted December 24, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 24, 2018 Well, I've completed the first 12 inches of walling. I'm quite pleased with how this has turned out, I feel it represents the local Derbyshire limestone drystone walls that are all over this area. Next job will be to paint it. Thanks for looking, Al. 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold westerhamstation Posted December 24, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 24, 2018 Hi Al, that is magnificent, a work of art and patience, when painted that will really come alive.All the best Adrian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted December 24, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 24, 2018 Game on! Will you run out of fingers to slash or will sufficient wallage be built? We wait with bated breath! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted December 27, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 27, 2018 (edited) Today, I've finally done something I should have done ages ago. I've added a third (centre) set of steps to my J94s. All of the J94 locos on the C&HPR had these, but most of the available models come without them, possibly because they are based on a preservation example of the Austerity class which doesn't have them. To start, I cut some different width strips from a sheet of 20thou styrene: Then I cut small sections off the two larger sized strips: These will be the backing plate and steps. Then I cut some very small sections from the narrowest strip: These form the sides of the steps: Then I added the steps to the back plate: Then, I did it all again: and again... until I had three pairs. Then I painted them: After attaching them to the locos, I added some weathering to tone them down a bit: Take a bow, fellows! This evening, so far, I've weathered some 12 Ton Hoppers: And I'm about to start painting the limestone wall. Thanks for looking, Al. Edited December 27, 2018 by Alister_G 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Today, I've finally done something I should have done ages ago. I've added a third set of steps to my J94s. All of the J94 locos on the C&HPR had these, but most of the available models come without them, possibly because they are based on a preservation example of the Austerity class which doesn't have them. To start, I cut some different width strips from a sheet of 20thou styrene: ladmanlow130.jpg Then I cut small sections off the two larger sized strips: ladmanlow131.jpg These will be the backing plate and steps. Then I cut some very small sections from the narrowest strip: ladmanlow132.jpg These form the sides of the steps: ladmanlow133.jpg Then I added the steps to the back plate: ladmanlow134.jpg ladmanlow135.jpg Then, I did it all again: ladmanlow136.jpg and again... ladmanlow137.jpg until I had three pairs. Then I painted them: ladmanlow138.jpg After attaching them to the locos, I added some weathering to tone them down a bit: ladmanlow139.jpg ladmanlow140.jpg ladmanlow141.jpg Take a bow, fellows! ladmanlow142.jpg This evening, so far, I've weathered some 12 Ton Hoppers: ladmanlow143.jpg And I'm about to start painting the limestone wall. Thanks for looking, Al. Back on form I see, Knife, Plasticard and Glue, and suddenly you have a Lawnmower, WHOOPS, steps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted December 27, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 27, 2018 Cheers Andy, no idea what you're on about... Al. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted December 27, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 27, 2018 Well I've painted the wall. I can't make up my mind about it, so would really welcome honest opinions. Part of the problem is it looks completely different dependng on the angle you photograph it at - or look at it, for that matter. Hmmm... Might sleep on it, and look at it in daylight. Al. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Well I've painted the wall. I can't make up my mind about it, so would really welcome honest opinions. ladmanlow144.jpg ladmanlow145.jpg ladmanlow146.jpg ladmanlow147.jpg ladmanlow148.jpg Part of the problem is it looks completely different dependng on the angle you photograph it at - or look at it, for that matter. ladmanlow149.jpg Hmmm... Might sleep on it, and look at it in daylight. Al. Needs more Lichen / Moss green maybe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted December 27, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 27, 2018 Needs more Lichen / Moss green maybe? Yes, that was one of the things I was considering. There are some greens in there already, but they seem to look almost blue in the photos. I might give it a wash of the olive green I normally use on stone, to get this sort of look: But I don't want to lose the limestone feel. Al. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon A Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 S Well I've painted the wall. I can't make up my mind about it, so would really welcome honest opinions. ladmanlow144.jpg ladmanlow145.jpg ladmanlow146.jpg ladmanlow147.jpg ladmanlow148.jpg Part of the problem is it looks completely different dependng on the angle you photograph it at - or look at it, for that matter. ladmanlow149.jpg Hmmm... Might sleep on it, and look at it in daylight. Al. Some of those stone blocks look BIG. I suggest take a picture with a couple of scale figures next to the wall. Could they lift those stones? Gordon A Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted December 27, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 27, 2018 S Some of those stone blocks look BIG. I suggest take a picture with a couple of scale figures next to the wall. Could they lift those stones? Gordon A Hi Gordon, Yes, some of them are a bit big, but you do see some walls round here with stones 2 foot long and a foot deep, and I've done a bit of real drystone walling, where we've used stones that took two of us to place. I think the wall is probably over scale slightly anyway, an 00 sized bloke would struggle to see over it, but it's the same height as the Javis bits I've got, and looks right in proportion to the rail and rolling stock. Cheers, Al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted December 28, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 28, 2018 I think each stone is too uniform in colour. Maybe as Andy says more moss/lichen, both on and between the stones, but the stones themselves need more shades of grey/white/black/brown first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted December 28, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 28, 2018 Thanks Stu, Just been looking at photos of limestone... strange where our hobby takes us sometimes! Yep, agreed, particularly some of the larger stones where I've cut "facets" the different faces should be different colours. I'll look at it again in the morning. Cheers, Al. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manna Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 G'Day Folks 40 million rocks looks rather different to Plastic card, but you have made an excellent start. manna 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold westerhamstation Posted December 28, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 28, 2018 Hi Al, I hope you had a comfortable night sleeping on it, perhaps just dirty it up a bit and add some lichen and algae. All the best Adrian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon A Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Hi Gordon, Yes, some of them are a bit big, but you do see some walls round here with stones 2 foot long and a foot deep, and I've done a bit of real drystone walling, where we've used stones that took two of us to place. I think the wall is probably over scale slightly anyway, an 00 sized bloke would struggle to see over it, but it's the same height as the Javis bits I've got, and looks right in proportion to the rail and rolling stock. Cheers, Al. That is a fair answer. Gordon A Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Hi Al, Having studied drystone walls quite a lot over the last couple of years(!), for me your top stones are too uniform in shape (look a bit like a load of books on a shelf). Try doing a length with top stones more randomly shaped, irregular angles. Graham (trying to be as constructive as possible ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian Smeeton Posted December 28, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 28, 2018 Not sure about Derbyshire, but round 'ere, the top stones are known as 'Cocks & Hens", and are laid alternately, i.e. large, small, large.... Regards Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted December 28, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 28, 2018 Thanks to all of you who have replied, you have made various points which I hope to address here. Firstly, I said I would take some photos of the wall in daylight, before doing anything further. What daylight we had was but grudgingly given, today, but around lunchtime these were taken: Which leave me still feeling dissatisfied with the results. Oh, and to touch on the point Gordon A raised, I said that the wall was probably too large and out of scale. However, standing Mr Dapol Bloke next to the wall suggests that's not the case: Although I agree some of the stone is a bit big. Anyway, this afternoon I took the opportunity to photograph some real Derbyshire limestone walls: These last three are all the same patch of wall, each taken at an increasing distance: You can see that, although close up, there are marked differences in stone colours, as soon as you move back, you begin to lose those differences and the lighter shades, and the wall appears darker and more uniform the further away you get. Looking again at the exquisitely scribed walls of Shap, (hope that's ok Graham?) you again see that he has painted them in a fairly uniform colour: This is something I keep having to re-learn: I have in the past painted walls as they appear close-up to the eye, and it never transfers well to the model. Darker and lighter shades tend to disappear and become blended into a more uniform look. Using dark greys is wrong for a model, unless the prototype is really, really dark, as is using bright whites. So, the conclusions are, go for a more uniform, darker look, and don't try to highlight stones using the actual colours observed on the prototype. I will set too this evening and tone down the highlights, and darken the whole thing, and see how that looks. Graham, Ian, thanks for your input about the coping stones. I agree they are too regular. However, whilst I have seen the "Cocks and Hens" style around here, as my photos show that's not generally the case. Quite often the posher walls use semicircular gritstone capping, which weathers to a browny-green look. Many thanks again to all of you, we'll see what the repaint looks like later. Al. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted December 28, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 28, 2018 Hi Al, I wondered whether a hot old soldering iron tip might take off some of the sharp edges. Might smell a bit in your den though, probably best done outside on a fine day, but you'll have to wait a bit for one of those to come along. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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