outcastjack Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Hello All, is there a good garden bird set from anyone, everything I have found includes large birds predominantly, nothing in the way of robins and very few sparrows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campaman Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 I suppose the problem with Robins and Sparrows is the scale of them, they would only be around 1mm or less in total length. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Even a full size Blue Tit is quite small, this one somehow flew into the loft and had to be escorted off the premises! Jim 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chimer Posted December 18, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 18, 2018 Blue tit wingspan about 60mm, equivalent to 15 feet in 00 - so I reckon that's an albatross perched on your factory 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 What you need are pale brown expanded polystyrene beads about 1.5mm diameter, able to 'fly' on small air currents or with some electrostatic field (repurposing the electrostatic grass machine).Then you name your layout LBJ and see if anyone gets it. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted December 18, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 18, 2018 Got it!!! I would suggest that suitably coloured blobs of Milliput or similar would be fine for perching small LBJ birds on branches, roofs, or wires, and perhaps in groups being fed on pavements or platforms. They'll pass the 2 foot rule; the trick is probably an 'impressionist' approach rather than S4 with beaks, eyes, individual feather veins, and claws accurately modelled! Most LBJs are round and fat in shape, coming to a bit of a point at the tail in a standing posture. Stick 'em on a thin piece of wire to represent the legs; with any luck they'll 'bob' a bit! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Sparrers here. https://www.dartcastings.co.uk/dart/A32.php Birds and cats, possibly a bit generic. http://www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=SPA5&style=main&strType=&Mcode=Springside+A5 Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted December 18, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 18, 2018 Yes, but what do you do with the rest? It is the same problem I have finding lambs without getting ten sheep and just two lambs. In the breeding seasons there are more lambs than sheep. My wife has suggested blobs of Milliput. I think the same approach would work for garden birds. Jonathan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfsboy Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 I also did a robin perched on a shovel in the Dart gardener figure ....ahhhh 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Yes, but what do you do with the rest? It is the same problem I have finding lambs without getting ten sheep and just two lambs. In the breeding seasons there are more lambs than sheep. My wife has suggested blobs of Milliput. I think the same approach would work for garden birds. Jonathan Sling them on eBay for a bit less than what you paid for the set? Someone else might be after adult sheep but not wanting lambs. Or hawks and not sparrows. Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 I also did a robin perched on a shovel in the Dart gardener figure ....ahhhh Here's the link. https://www.dartcastings.co.uk/montys/MLV22.php Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
outcastjack Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) That gardener and robin set has gone onto my wish list. I agree that small birds would on be about 1mm across so it should be possible to get away with a very basic shape. On that note i am off to find the milliput... Edited December 18, 2018 by outcastjack 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
88D Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 What you need are pale brown expanded polystyrene beads about 1.5mm diameter, able to 'fly' on small air currents or with some electrostatic field (repurposing the electrostatic grass machine).Then you name your layout LBJ and see if anyone gets it.[/quoteI do.makes a change from BLT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 I understand BLT. Mmmm, bacon. But LBJ? Isn't that Lyndon B Johnson? Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
outcastjack Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 That escaped me too... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Among the UK's bird spotters the acid test of ability is being able to recognise the class members of the large fleet of LBJ's - little brown jobs - small flying machines with not particularly glammy paint jobs that hang about in deep shade most of the time. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCB Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 I find birds to be a darned nuisance on my 00 garden line as they s*** on the rails... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted December 19, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 19, 2018 LBJ's are a group of small birds of generally similar appearance, behaviour, and habitat that are very difficult to distinguish from each other, especially as they are either spotted in the shady undergrowth or in silhouette against a bright sky. A bit like panniers if you don't know much about panniers... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campaman Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) I seen an article once where small birds were made by bending a thin wire to the outline shape of the bird then the body formed with a blob of solder then painted the appropriate colours, it may even have been how they produce them for Pendon. Edited December 19, 2018 by Campaman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Mac Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) I find birds to be a darned nuisance on my 00 garden line as they s*** on the rails... Could you imagine finding a s### seventy six times larger than normal!! Edited December 19, 2018 by Andy Mac Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted December 19, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 19, 2018 Could you imagine finding a s### seventy six times larger than normal!! See post 3. That one sh*t a factory! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold phil_sutters Posted December 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 27, 2018 The problem is getting them to sit still long enough to line up the 3D scanner and scan them. If you can achieve that then the materials cost is very low. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Just get a cat. Tiddles will soon bring you loads of the things. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted December 28, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 28, 2018 As a fluff chucker have plentiful supplies of very prototypical fluff - and as what I largely use for my ephemeroptera imitations are the rigid barbs of the feathers the fluffy material usually goes up the hoover. Have long thought that for birds some tacky wax worked in to it would allow it to be formed in to appropriate shapes for modelling of feathered jobbies. House martins on telephone wires in particular. Will have a play and report back. Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium The White Rabbit Posted December 28, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) Given the size, I'd really understand why an impressionist approach gains favour... No-one's mentioned the Preiser 10169 pack yet, some definitely too large for the OP, some, such as the pigeons, might be OK (though rather larger then the 'LBJs'). If only so he can rule them out as an option, two snaps of dioramas where I used some of the smaller birds from the Preiser pack: In the first, there are three, two pigeons (on a branch over the lane and what the cat is supposedly looking at) and a blackbird on the top of one of the runner beans stands - I can only just see it and I know it's there! For the second, there's a crow on the first extension gable end chimney stack and two doves on the extension ridgeline two houses along. A fourth, a blackbird, in the tree, is invisible behind a piece of scatter. Edited December 28, 2018 by The White Rabbit 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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