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On 12/09/2019 at 10:53, Brocp said:

Any idea what issue?

November 2005. Tempus fugit!

 

I've got a copy if you want it? Wife says I've kept far to many back issues anyway....

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1 hour ago, Brocp said:

Off the top of my head (scary I know) Lizzie went from 46 Lined Black straight to the trail BR Lined Black (bascially the mixed traffic livery) in 48/49.

 

I wonder which if any Lizzies and Duchesses were ever in plain wartime black? I know many if not all the 'streamlined' Coronations were thus treated but not so sure about the Lizzies.

 

Unlined weathered black is about the limit of my painting aspirations. With appropriate brown rust or steamy stains.here and there. 

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No Lizzies were wartime black. All were still red. All of the Duchesses bar 6230, 6232, 6233 and (I think) 6234 were black. Those ones were red, 6232 possibly 6230 until BR ownership.

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2 minutes ago, Brocp said:

No Lizzies were wartime black. All were still red. All of the Duchesses bar 6230, 6232, 6233 and (I think) 6234 were black. Those ones were red, 6232 possibly 6230 until BR ownership.

 

Much appreciated.  I have just bought a red BR 46203 which didn't exist but a wartime black 6201 won't happen. :)

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Looking at Ramsay's it appears the only attempt by Hornby to model the original Princess 6200 and 6201 with Fowler-style tender was in 1984-5 so as mentioned elsewhere I bought one, tender drive and all, on Enbay, from Gostude, and it is as new...

 

Quite impressive and evokes for me the dramatic running between London and Scotland with 500-ton trains in 1933-4 when they wouldn't steam well, sometimes arriving with little or no coal left...  

 

I was well away form railway modelling in 1984 and notice the mouldings are not right in every way, but I still like the model.

 

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just for fun I photo edited a later version chassis under the engine...

 

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It will be interesting to see how the new state-of-the-art model measures up! :)

 

 

 

 

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And in better light the class leader Princess LMS 6200 'The Princess Royal'...  35 years since this was made, and if you go back anoth 35 years you would get a black Triang Princess..

 

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Bullet-proof engine, no small details falling off, rather nice body and paint,  box is marked £29.50.

 

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They don't make 'em like they used to!

 

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Pic borrowed off ebay

 

(In this case, thank goodness!)

 

I know I keep promising to unearth my Lizzies for a comparison shoot, but circumstances are against it for the moment...

 

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Indeed Hroth, there are some things we learn to forget in life...  well, I do.

 

Please note that the LMS 6200 model of 1984 has the correct early shorter firebox, something that later models never managed, so far as I know.

 

I have many and various pics planned of this early Princess version, mainly in honour of O S Nock's marvellous writing about a 1934 cab-ride from Symington to Euston with 500 tons and crews who were unfamiliar with the engine.  From p102-3 in 'British Locomotives from the Footplate' Ian Allan 1950.

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