rope runner Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 On 06/03/2021 at 11:30, tomparryharry said: A lot of industrial locomotives went on cylinder size for any given gauge. Barclays are well-known for this. A classic example is the Barclay 14" locomotive. Both Victory, and Llantarnam Abbey (Blaenavon ) are the same size cylinder, which allows the same motion, etc. The 6-wheeler has (naturally ) longer frames, so you get luxuries like a roomier cab, and a better bunker. The boiler however, keeps the same boiler size, and the cab that adorns it. In this instance, standardisation is not only confined to Swindon..... Andrew Barclays went a step further than most with regards to standardization - though in some respects it was to their detriment. The six cooupled Barclays of this period required a split ash pan - meaning you need to get at it from both ends from ashing out, so need a pit. The major flaw with this design however is that the six coupled design isn't capable of maintaining steam on continuous run. The boiler barrel and firebox is essentially undersized, being identical to the 0-4-0. These problems were experienced when AB2139 was in use on the expansive Scunthorpe Steelworks railway in the early 1990s where the crew had to stop periodically to rebuild steam. Paul A. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted March 8, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 8, 2021 (edited) Yes, sounds about right. The rear axle bisects the ashpan. The same applies to the Hunslet 18" Austerity. I think Ajax (Havenstreet ) had the loco for a while, but I don't think they could make steam on it. The blastpipe on a Barclay is, for some reason, poorly designed. Embsay had one loco (can't remember which ) which was sorted, and they got some good results. A brick arch on a 14" Barclay is essential: Rosyth at Blaenavon has one, and it'll tackle 3 Mk 1s at a push. Remember that Barclays built locomotives for special one offs, and stock locomotives. Apparently. they weren't above stripping a loco for spares, if the bespoke items weren't immediately to hand. I can well remember viewing the 4-4-0 loco at Upper Hutt, near Wellington, NZ. I mentioned to the museum staff that " They only built the one loco to that particular design, and that's it". The staff have taken the loco inside for restoration, and I wish them well. Most of the mechanicals are derived from a 12" Barclay, despite being a different gauge. Edited March 21, 2021 by tomparryharry 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off Tackle Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Got the Peckett works version of this beauty on pre-order with Derails - has anyone who owns a DCC version found there is a need for a stay alive over live frogs, and if so, has anyone successfully squeezed one in? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted March 18, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 18, 2021 14 hours ago, Off Tackle said: Got the Peckett works version of this beauty on pre-order with Derails - has anyone who owns a DCC version found there is a need for a stay alive over live frogs, and if so, has anyone successfully squeezed one in? FWIW Digitrains did one for me with sound and stay alive (in the cab IIRC but any visual issue is outweighed by splendid running) 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mick Bonwick Posted March 18, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 18, 2021 14 hours ago, Off Tackle said: Got the Peckett works version of this beauty on pre-order with Derails - has anyone who owns a DCC version found there is a need for a stay alive over live frogs, and if so, has anyone successfully squeezed one in? I haven't found it necessary. Faultless running since day one. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scots region Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 Hornby has taken payment for my Green NCB one, haven’t sent me an email though. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cor-onGRT4 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Bloxham, port of Bristol and NCB green arrived at Hornby today, NCB blue not yet in stock. Have Bloxham, port of Bristol and NCB blue on order at Hattons. Two out of three soon on the way to me, just a little patience for the third. Wonderfull loco's 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scots region Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Gave Hornby a bell to ask for a follow up, they said my NCB one should be out by the end of the week. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off Tackle Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Many thanks for the replies @Gilbert and @Mick Bonwick! She's a beauty alright.....I'll see if she's as smooth as Gilbert's without a stay-alive first, fingers crossed. Been wondering if me Peckett has managed to wedge itself at 45 degrees across the Suez canal but it sounds like they're in the country. Bring it on! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovbulleid Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 I’ve held off ordering one as none of them quite fitted the period I was after. However because Henry has no obvious markings of the period (ie references to Nationalised industries) and is definitely the prettiest one released in now counting the days until it arrives. Fascinated by the thought of fitting sound as Youchoos somehow managed. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scots region Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Mine should be here by Friday, and I only order at the beginning of March. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scots region Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Well 1426 arrived today... with a big crack in its bunker. The coal load loose, shortly followed by the cab roof and rear head. I’ve glued it all back together, if it went back it would just be so much more wasted plastic. Out of curiosity does plastic cement work on hornbys stuff? Only gorilla gell is hard to control. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob1234 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 hour ago, scots region said: Well 1426 arrived today... with a big crack in its bunker. The coal load loose, shortly followed by the cab roof and rear head. I’ve glued it all back together, if it went back it would just be so much more wasted plastic. Out of curiosity does plastic cement work on hornbys stuff? Only gorilla gell is hard to control. In my opinion it should be sent back if nothing else to highlight the quality issue to Hornby. That can't fix an issue if they don't know about it. These models are sold as ready to run, not kits. Hornby like many others are happy to increase prices each year and I, like many others are happy to pay those prices, but only if the products are of the highest quality. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted April 11, 2021 Moderators Share Posted April 11, 2021 On 09/04/2021 at 15:08, scots region said: Well 1426 arrived today... with a big crack in its bunker. The coal load loose, shortly followed by the cab roof and rear head. I've had word from a retailer that over 75% of their stock of the most recent batch of B2s is damaged with loose parts and badly refixed parts which will be heading back. Other stock in the same package hadn't suffered similar problems. Keep your eyes open. 1 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 Sounds like rough shunting somewhere en route 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted April 12, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) Rather poor QC by Hornby, both steps broken off and not just loose as a small corner of lining was still in the socket! More worrying was it jumped when run. Turns out the motion bracket was straight down so the slidebars and crosshead were flailing around and hitting the crankpin on the leading driver! Easy fix but both sides were wrong so it’s looking like it was just slammed together. For me less hassle to repair than send back but this second part isn’t rough handling in the post. I have emailed Hornby the detail. Edited April 12, 2021 by PaulRhB 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted April 12, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 12, 2021 Setting those issues to one side, Paul, Henry does look quite the jolly chap. Rob. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted April 12, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 12, 2021 21 minutes ago, NHY 581 said: Setting those issues to one side, Paul, Henry does look quite the jolly chap. Rob. It’s a superb little model and while some might say I should send it back it took 30 secs to fix and less hassle than parcelling it up and sending it back The steps must be the packaging as they were inside the sleeve and snapped but the motion bracket is just poor assembly and as they were straight down and solid whoever was supposed to click in the slidebars either didn’t know to do it or was very sloppy. Runs beautifully now 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 On 08/03/2021 at 17:29, 1whitemoor said: These problems were experienced when AB2139 was in use on the expansive Scunthorpe Steelworks railway in the early 1990s where the crew had to stop periodically to rebuild steam. Paul A. You don't really want to be doing that when you're in the middle of shifting some of those wagons full of molten metal from one part of the steelworks to another. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 With these and the numerous shockingly assembled A2s, never mind the colours, Hornby seem to have lost control of any quality control no doubt due to them using numerous manufacturers and no doubt tendering models out to the cheapest. Are these being made by the same lot responsible for the original batches ? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cor-onGRT4 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 (edited) Two [port of Bristol and the blue NCB] of the three in pre order at Hattons are put in my baskett that are now going to shipped included one Coronation coach, the third Bloxham could not yet been processed because i was forgotten to put money on my card, so did a payment at once on my card today hopefully this will proceed the processing today They were processed yesterday, so assuming in stock all 4 Peckett since yesterday at Hattons. three at least i know. Now hoping there are no poor QC on these, they have to travel to the flat lands here in the Netherlands. Edited April 13, 2021 by Cor-onGRT4 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn-on-the-platform Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 (edited) Port of Bristol 'Henry' has arrived with me today. My first purchase from Derails, great service. No QC issues but a note inside to say it had been checked by the shop. I hadn't planned to buy a B2, quite happy with my brace of W4s, but Chris Nevard's shots of Henry for Kernow on his layout sold the engine to me! Hornby have really got the running qualities right on their Pecketts. Smooth, quiet and more than enough power. Matched only by Rapido products in my opinion! Edited April 15, 2021 by Torn-on-the-platform 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steaming_chris Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Torn-on-the-platform said: -8<--- a few lines deleted I hadn't planned to buy a B2, quite happy with my brace of W4s, but Chris Nevard's shots of Henry for Kernow on his layout sold the engine to me! Do you have a link to the Chris Nevard article, please Regards 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted April 16, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, steaming_chris said: Do you have a link to the Chris Nevard article, please Regards As he said it’s on the Kernow website the thumbnail is just below the loco and will open if you click on it. https://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/69888/R3871-Hornby-Peckett-B2-Class-0-6-0ST-Steam-Locomotive-Henry 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steaming_chris Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Thank you 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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