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Hornby have announced new tooling for 57' bow-ended suburban coaches in left-hand and right-hand configurations of both composite and brake coaches, suitable for running as 4-coach sets for branch and suburban services - an ideal accompaniment to the newly tooled large Prairie.

 

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R4874 GWR, Collett 57' Bow Ended E131 Nine Compartment Composite (Left Hand), 6360 - Era 3 Due Date: May-19    RRP: £48.99

R4874A GWR, Collett 57' Bow Ended E131 Nine Compartment Composite (Left Hand), 6626 - Era 3 Due Date: May-19    RRP: £48.99

R4875 GWR, Collett 57' Bow Ended E131 Nine Compartment Composite (Right Hand), 6362 - Era 3 Due Date: May-19    RRP: £48.99

R4875A GWR, Collett 57' Bow Ended E131 Nine Compartment Composite (Right Hand), 6627 - Era 3 Due Date: May-19    RRP: £48.99

R4876 GWR, Collett 57' Bow Ended D98 Six Compartment Brake Third (Left Hand), 4971 - Era 3 Due Date: May-19    RRP: £48.99

R4876A GWR, Collett 57' Bow Ended D98 Six Compartment Brake Third (Left Hand), 5503 - Era 3 Due Date: May-19    RRP: £48.99

R4877 GWR, Collett 57' Bow Ended D98 Six Compartment Brake Third (Right Hand), 4972 - Era 3 Due Date: May-19    RRP: £48.99

R4877A GWR, Collett 57' Bow Ended D98 Six Compartment Brake Third (Right Hand), 5504 - Era 3 Due Date: May-19    RRP: £48.99

R4878 BR, Collett 57' Bow Ended E131 Nine Compartment Composite (Left Hand), W6630W - Era 4 Due Date: May-19    RRP: £48.99

R4878A BR, Collett 57' Bow Ended E131 Nine Compartment Composite (Left Hand), W6237W - Era 4 Due Date: May-19    RRP: £48.99

R4879 BR, Collett 57' Bow Ended E131 Nine Compartment Composite (Right Hand), W6631W - Era 4 Due Date: May-19    RRP: £48.99

R4879A BR, Collett 57' Bow Ended E131 Nine Compartment Composite (Right Hand), W6242W - Era 4 Due Date: May-19    RRP: £48.99

R4880 BR, Collett 57' Bow Ended D98 Six Compartment Brake Third (Left Hand), W5507W - Era 4 Due Date: May-19    RRP: £48.99

R4880A BR, Collett 57' Bow Ended D98 Six Compartment Brake Third (Left Hand), W4949W - Era 4 Due Date: May-19    RRP: £48.99

R4881 BR, Collett 57' Bow Ended D98 Six Compartment Brake Third (Right Hand), W5508W - Era 4 Due Date: May-19    RRP: £48.99

R4881A BR, Collett 57' Bow Ended D98 Six Compartment Brake Third (Right Hand), W4951W - Era 4 Due Date: May-19    RRP: £48.99

 

Livery samples were shown at Margate in Dec 2018 ahead on anticipated late-spring delivery.

 

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Yayyyy!  Been wanting these for a while, happy days, nice one Hornby!

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That's one I can cross off the build it yourself list. May have to investigate a flat end conversion though, for a bit of variety.

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Large Prairie, not found that one yet in the announcements, busy year for Hornby.

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These are especially interesting as nobody has done anything like this before. This is a significant gap filled.

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Looks like I can now happily retire my old Mainline versions, the only hard bit is to decide how many and which versions I will be buying.

Edited by David Stannard

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These will go like hot cake they are a massive improvement over their old one's I'd better put a pre-order in.  :mail:

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Can these be used in B set formations?

The coaches in B-sets were brake composites, with more compartments and smaller van portions.

Edited by Dunsignalling

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The coaches in B-sets were brake composites, with more compartments and smaller van portions.

Thanks

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It wil be better if I explain why they were built - as four coach set trains for the London, Chester and [principally] Birmingham divisions.  In Birmingham sets such as these were known as B sets, in contrast to the use of that term for pairs of brake composites elsewhere on the [G]WR.  In Birmingham such pairs were called D sets.  What was that about GWR standardisation?

 

Chris

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I wonder whether or not any found their way onto Valleys workings .I know that bow ended stock did but trains ran in 5/6 coach sets,some with Hawksworth and other Collett stock.

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It wil be better if I explain why they were built - as four coach set trains for the London, Chester and [principally] Birmingham divisions.  In Birmingham sets such as these were known as B sets, in contrast to the use of that term for pairs of brake composites elsewhere on the [G]WR.  In Birmingham such pairs were called D sets.  What was that about GWR standardisation?

 

Chris

 

Chris

 

Would they have been used for locals around Oxford and northward toward Banbury, Leamington etc?. Based on the coaching info I have only a couple of services between Oxford and Banbury were of non-corridor stock but nonetheless a hole in my collection to fill, either instead or or supplemented by Comet sides and bits for other Collett ones or my 3d printign bodging for Toplights and maybe earlier non-corridor stuff.

 

Thanks

 

Jon

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Very nice but very expensive!

 

At that sort of price it would be nice to think that they might have pickups and DCC-controlled internal lighting...???

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According to 'Harris' Diags D98 and E131 were 58ft 2ins long - does that equate to '57ft' without the Bow end being taken into account?

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Now I get the idea of right and left hand coaches when a corridor is used. Can somebody explain the difference when no corridor is found ?

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Now I get the idea of right and left hand coaches when a corridor is used. Can somebody explain the difference when no corridor is found ?

 Roof ventilators all on one side when set is made up correctly.

 

Mike Wiltshire

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According to 'Harris' Diags D98 and E131 were 58ft 2ins long - does that equate to '57ft' without the Bow end being taken into account?

 

Yes.

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On the whole Hornby/Dapol thing, are these the same diagram as Lionheart make in 7mm? Have they missed a trick by not shrinking to 4mm?

 

David

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On the whole Hornby/Dapol thing, are these the same diagram as Lionheart make in 7mm? Have they missed a trick by not shrinking to 4mm?

 

Yes and yes.  Sorry, that was wrong. Should have checked a bit closer on the diagram types.

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I wonder whether or not any found their way onto Valleys workings .I know that bow ended stock did but trains ran in 5/6 coach sets,some with Hawksworth and other Collett stock.

 

One or two 5 car sets for my proposed valleys workings, plus a nice Taff vale A class (or 4) lurking in the background....

 

Getting all wibbly-wobbly now....

 

Ian.

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