RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted December 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 27, 2019 On 25/12/2019 at 19:05, Porcy Mane said: Oh how I'm missing that lable clip. Brake Van at Middleton Top by John Evans, on Flickr The label clip is prolly there, but underneath the paint! Why do some manufacturers feel the need to dip models and not spray them? Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted December 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) I'm guessing the width between the axle guards will be the same as on other Hornby wagons, so wheel-swaps should be "business-as-usual". The P4 mob will probably have to move the brake shoes, but they presumably get plenty of practice at that. Doubtless, the day after I finish adding the veranda-end bracing from bits of microstrip, some kind soul will offer an etch to do the job in one go... John Edited December 27, 2019 by Dunsignalling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Enterprisingwestern said: The label clip is prolly there, but underneath the paint! Why do some manufacturers feel the need to dip models and not spray them? Mike. ??? It is possible to get a much thinner coat by dipping rather than spraying. The motor trade is rather good at it. After a lot of problems initially. Blame the user if you must but not the process. Bernard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted December 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 27, 2019 Both BR versions left in my local emporium had obviously warped horizontal handrails unfortunately. Didnt affect the LMS grey versions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted December 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) Well, that's me told! I'm only a plumber. Mike. Edited December 27, 2019 by Enterprisingwestern Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted December 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 hour ago, MikeParkin65 said: Both BR versions left in my local emporium had obviously warped horizontal handrails unfortunately. Didnt affect the LMS grey versions. Other way round with the ones I saw today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted December 29, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 29, 2019 Not quite the finished article but here's mine at Bleat Wharf. Rob. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 29, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 29, 2019 1 hour ago, NHY 581 said: Not quite the finished article but here's mine at Bleat Wharf. Rob. Blimey, that got there quickly 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted December 30, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 30, 2019 13 hours ago, The Stationmaster said: Blimey, that got there quickly Quite. It will be in the Edington area next weekend........proper S&D territory. Rob. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted December 30, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 30, 2019 A bit more work on the underframe. I think this will do now. Rob. 9 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Persephone Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) On 26/12/2019 at 10:37, Waveydavey said: Anybody managed to fit a set of P4 wheels in yet? If not could someone measure the space between the W irons please. I've just converted mine to EM. Wheelsets dropped in first time, no slop on the pinpoints so Ive not bothered drilling out for new top hat bearings for the time being. Only a little interference from the brake blocks which was cured by shaving off a slight sliver of plastic off the back of them. Hornby for once seem to have located the brake shoes not far off their proper position. Clearance between the inside of the W iron mouldings is a midges dick over 23mm, unfortunately my micrometer is out of batteries so had to use my guessing stick. Edited December 31, 2019 by Persephone 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waveydavey Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Cheers Andy. 23mm will do just fine for P4 wheels. Lets hope the grim days of the HAA and Shark are long gone. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Persephone Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Following dropping new wheelsets in to EM Gauge as mentioned above, Ive been doing a spot of work on the new Hornby Stanier brake van. A few things irked me about it, not least the moulded verandah guard rails and the moulded lamp irons. Armed only with a Swann Morton 10a blade I carefully scored out the infill between the guard rail and the stanchion to reveal fresh air. All 4 have been left down. The lamp irons were scraped off and replaced by some folded up 1mm brass shim. The NEM pickets were unscrewed and discarded and the mounting block hacked back level with the bottom of the sub frame to accommodate Spratt and Winkle couplings. All at nil extra cost, but I do suspect I will be getting some pain off Mr Franks to replace the buffers with the correct packed version. The part of my ancestry that is Scottish however has long taught me the value of short arms and deep pockets though Dave ;-) The whole thing then went into the paint shop for a quick airbrush with frame dirt and rust followed by some dirty wash which was wiped off with a soft cloth before a final application of weathering powders. Shame its got to wait till next month to make its debut on North Ballachulish at Model Rail Scotland at the SECC Glasgow. And no doubt a badgering to buy some packed buffers. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted January 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Persephone said: Following dropping new wheelsets in to EM Gauge as mentioned above, Ive been doing a spot of work on the new Hornby Stanier brake van. A few things irked me about it, not least the moulded verandah guard rails and the moulded lamp irons. Armed only with a Swann Morton 10a blade I carefully scored out the infill between the guard rail and the stanchion to reveal fresh air. All 4 have been left down. The lamp irons were scraped off and replaced by some folded up 1mm brass shim. The NEM pickets were unscrewed and discarded and the mounting block hacked back level with the bottom of the sub frame to accommodate Spratt and Winkle couplings. All at nil extra cost, but I do suspect I will be getting some pain off Mr Franks to replace the buffers with the correct packed version. The part of my ancestry that is Scottish however has long taught me the value of short arms and deep pockets though Dave ;-) The whole thing then went into the paint shop for a quick airbrush with frame dirt and rust followed by some dirty wash which was wiped off with a soft cloth before a final application of weathering powders. Shame its got to wait till next month to make its debut on North Ballachulish at Model Rail Scotland at the SECC Glasgow. And no doubt a badgering to buy some packed buffers. Lovely work but dare I mention that warped lower grab rail? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Persephone Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 You mean this one? They do have a tendency to bend if you so much as look at them, especially when handling them. Soon rectified though. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 5 hours ago, Persephone said: Following dropping new wheelsets in to EM Gauge as mentioned above, Ive been doing a spot of work on the new Hornby Stanier brake van. A few things irked me about it, not least the moulded verandah guard rails and the moulded lamp irons. Armed only with a Swann Morton 10a blade I carefully scored out the infill between the guard rail and the stanchion to reveal fresh air. All 4 have been left down. The lamp irons were scraped off and replaced by some folded up 1mm brass shim. The NEM pickets were unscrewed and discarded and the mounting block hacked back level with the bottom of the sub frame to accommodate Spratt and Winkle couplings. All at nil extra cost, but I do suspect I will be getting some pain off Mr Franks to replace the buffers with the correct packed version. The part of my ancestry that is Scottish however has long taught me the value of short arms and deep pockets though Dave ;-) The whole thing then went into the paint shop for a quick airbrush with frame dirt and rust followed by some dirty wash which was wiped off with a soft cloth before a final application of weathering powders. Shame its got to wait till next month to make its debut on North Ballachulish at Model Rail Scotland at the SECC Glasgow. And no doubt a badgering to buy some packed buffers. Me badger you???? Never Andy, I mean you're 3 inches taller and about six stone heavier but I'll bring a pack with me to Glasgow next month just in case. See ya. Dave Franks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axlebox Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 On 25/12/2019 at 22:59, Porcy Mane said: He was not a happy man when informed his kits have the planking in the wrong place. Prototype for everything corner...with planks in the wrong place... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) Whay-heyyyy. M731736. Mr. Becareful will be able to number his PMK now. Question is; what was the planking like on the other side? Accident repair???? and why is it so far away from Duddeston? Edited January 12, 2020 by Porcy Mane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 12, 2020 If it was Duddeston Sidings that's diagonally opposite across the bridge from the nesting site of the Saltley Seagulls and as we know their Route Cards were legendary. Probably in the cabin drinking tea whilst waiting for a train to work back home. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Daddyman Posted January 13, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2020 9 hours ago, Axlebox said: Prototype for everything corner...with planks in the wrong place... Intriguing! A restoration job on the Brechin Railway here - maybe they used Jim's model as a guide? https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/angus-mearns/515758/torched-brechin-railway-brake-van-ready-to-roll-from-the-ashes/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Daddyman said: A restoration job on the Brechin Railway M732538 Can't make out the original planking arrangement here: http://www.ws.rhrp.org.uk/ws/WagonInfo.asp?Ref=7575 M732535 had normal (standard?) planking Tin roof can't be good for condensation in winter. 732538 - Bridge of Dun, Caledonian Railway - 18th August 2018 by Steve Blick, on Flickr 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 26 minutes ago, Porcy Mane said: M732538 Can't make out the original planking arrangement here: http://www.ws.rhrp.org.uk/ws/WagonInfo.asp?Ref=7575 M732535 had normal (standard?) planking Tin roof can't be good for condensation in winter. 732538 - Bridge of Dun, Caledonian Railway - 18th August 2018 by Steve Blick, on Flickr Not sure that handrail bend's authentic .......... it's not like any of the Hornby models I've seen ! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Wickham Green said: Not sure that handrail bend's authentic Clips up?...Clips down? That is the question. https://flic.kr/p/9TK8DF 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul 27 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) On 24/12/2019 at 19:09, farren said: My two BR livery vans have turned up quite nice wagons but those handrails are very flimsy plastic! If You touch them there out of shape or look at them. Their not hard to straighten but I can see it being a pain. and it wasn’t me they turned up like it i sorted one for now the other is still in it’s box unopened and needs straightening Don't see how to straiten them without gluing them to the sides, any recommendations how to fix the problem maybe to slightly heat and stretch them as well. Edited January 23, 2020 by paul 27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markw Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Just now, paul 27 said: Don't see how to straiten them without gluing to the sides, any recommendations. They are not plastic, lever them off straighten the wire and re-attach them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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